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Off-Topic / Re: Anyone been to the Grand Canyon?

« on: August 30, 2011, 10:00:39 am »Message ID: 409045

Been there once and don't plan on going back. If I go it will be just a pass through to show the kids.

I might do one of the helicopter tours while in Vegas one time, but don't think I will ever plan a trip just to the Grand Canyon.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 27, 2011, 10:10:03 pm »Message ID: 407869

Thing is, we have never had issue with sharing the land, however, we will never sit idly by and watch any of it, much less parts of it we hold sacred, be desecrated or dis-respected in any way. Do we win every battle? Of course not, but we will step up and fight each and every one to the very end. I have not cried any thing, only, posted what is going on in various of the issue we are interested in. I did not write any of the articles I have posted but I have first hand knowledge that each has been written in a way reflecting the very truth of the situations. I will never post hear-say without qualifying it as such. If the issues that we find interesting and/or important, you do not find so, so be it, move on to another thread. If you dis-agree with our opinion and stance, that is very well also. I will post facts. I will also post my personal opinion and represent it as so. You have that same right. I have never posted any thing without verifying its correctness, so your claim of me posting mis-information is simply your opinion, which is a far cry from fact.

It is mis-information to act like you never knew that drinkable water was an option the tribes turned down!
And it was mis-information to try to act like the victims here when SnowBowl did everything the could to make the tribes happy.
If you want to make it a better read then tell both sides of the stories.
I don't want to hear about your history.

Funny how you didn't write or copy/cut/paste about the City Council meeting where your people were asked to leave because they were screaming and protesting in there. If you ask me there were only there for the attention. Pretty sad.

But as you said I can disagree with your stance and opinion, but I mostly disagree with how you copy/cut/paste these stories and leave out other facts so that you can tell everyone who the victim is instead of figuring out ourselves.

For the past few years I have watched what the tribes have been doing with this situation and it was greddy and shady then and more so now.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 26, 2011, 08:29:22 am »Message ID: 407154

Shows how much you really know about the subject Fool.....

Again your one-sided stories trying to make your people the victim is continuing to make your people look stupid and selfish!

And you have no claims/proof to show I don't know anything about this, everything I posted is true.

Continue to waste resources with an un-beatable battle, you would have thought your people were smart enough to give up after the first few court losses.

I do have to say if your post weren't so one-sided and you didn't always cry wolf they might have some warrant to it. Unfortunately not only is this story one-sided it there is alot of misinformation andwrong doing by your people.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 25, 2011, 07:31:37 pm »Message ID: 406969

Not really a good read....started as a one-side cry with a lot of misinformation.

Basic run down is SnowBowl did everything they could to make those that opposed happy and they declined them all.
After all attempts thru the courts failed they are now wanting those offers, plus more.

The silly thing is SnowBowl is not even using alot of the land, they are mostly rebuild on existing land. They are making new trails but nothing to disrupt
the so-called sacred land the tribes supposely eat off of.

The last 2 walksalone post have nothing to do with the issue.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 24, 2011, 08:16:44 pm »Message ID: 406413

An update on the developement.....


The efforts to slow and cost the snow making developement at SnowBowl is not working as planned for the Hopi Indian Tribe. So now they are again trying to take it to the courts. This time they are sueing the City of Flagstaff for somehow illegally selling water to SnowBowl.    They are seeking financial compensation.

Their past dealings with the courts are a good indication of how this will go. Only thing we can say for them is they are presistant....at losing...

Another group that are against the developement are what many would call contrarians, the type that have no reason other then the attention for objecting to something others are for. 

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 21, 2011, 10:34:50 am »Message ID: 405001

Yes...DRINKABLE water! When that was proposed to meet the tribes demands they still objected!
So after that was objected it was clear there was nothing they could do to make the tribes happy so they used the more ecomonical option...reclaimed water.
Which is the same water used to irrigate parks, fill water features.

I don't worship anything so your question doesn't apply.

Your plans to halt, disrupt, and raise cost of construction is well known to the authorites.

I kinda understand your pain but I also understand that this will do more good for the city of Flagstaff. It will do alot more good then harm.
You protest will not stop anythign and will only hurt your people more.

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Off-Topic / Re: Did you know United States has more oil than saudi arabia and the middle east?

« on: August 20, 2011, 08:44:02 pm »Message ID: 404813

Actually you both are technically wrong. Saudi is still #1 Venezuela is #7 and USA is #14 and this is the most updated AND this is only "PROVEN" oil reserves.

It is "oil shale" which the USA has more reserves of then anywhere else. And I also believe it is hazardous to wildlife and the environment. I know it has alot of groups against it.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 19, 2011, 06:08:18 pm »Message ID: 404410

Ignorance.....
I never said I was an expert, but I have been following this for years.
This whole thing is about greed, if you knew anything about it and wasn't closed minded you would see that.

What else could it be when the tribe/clan that owns Sunrise ski resort was part of the protest?
How is it not greedy when Snowbowl was going to use drinkable water but the tribe/clan objected to that?
They could have had snow flown in and they would have cryied about it.

There is so much good coming from this that it is very stupid for them to be protesting, especially in these hard times.
Great that ALL of the courts saw this too. It is just too bad it went to so many courts in the first place. This will be great for the economy in Flagstaff.

So go f'ing cry somewhere else.
As always your post only have one side of the story to make someone look like the victim.

So "dipshit" when you know what you are talking about then maybe we can talk.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Court Denies Injunction to Halt Snowbowl Development

« on: August 19, 2011, 09:07:39 am »Message ID: 404221

I live in Az and know a great deal about the happenings at SnowBowl.
I snowboard up there every season.

It is a great thing to have the Snowbowl Developement move foward.
This whole thing was stupid and made certain parties look really foolish.

I will say the situation could have been handled better. But the "protested" definately escaled the situation. The costruction area is well know up there and only an idiot wouldn't know about it. The person in the story was being stupid and looking to make a scene.

This will only get thrown out like every other court proceeding they had trying to stop SnowBowl.

This whole thing started out by GREED, not by trying to protect some mystic land.
One of the original parties that started this whole thing own another local snow resort that OWNES AND OPERATES SNOW MAKERS!

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Off-Topic / Re: Atheists

« on: August 19, 2011, 08:49:16 am »Message ID: 404210

          If you are an atheist, then...what do you believe in?

Things that make sense?

Best reply ever!

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Off-Topic / Re: Gun Laws

« on: March 25, 2011, 10:05:15 am »Message ID: 330569

Strict gun laws will not stop those looking to do illegal acts...plain and simple. 

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Off-Topic / Re: SHOPPING @WALMART

« on: March 25, 2011, 09:59:27 am »Message ID: 330567

I don't think I have ever found anything cheaper at Target than at Walmart.

I like shopping at Walmart, good selection of toys for the kids, cheap movies, ammo and just an all in one store.

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Off-Topic / Re: DVD or Bluray

« on: March 25, 2011, 09:52:45 am »Message ID: 330565

We have 4 bluray players. And with a good HD tv it is a must to get the best home theather experience.

Alot of people just don't understand it.
You don't need a special blueray TV..
You don't have to watch how the movie was made.. That feature has been available on dvd for years also.
You can get a bluray player for under $100 now and movies are not that much more than dvd the day they come out.

Not only do you get a better picture but you get better sound if you have the right equipment.

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Off-Topic / Re: Who Does Your Taxes?

« on: February 18, 2011, 12:44:16 pm »Message ID: 315302

TurboTax here, very easy to use.

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Off-Topic / Re: Do you have a ceiling fan?

« on: February 17, 2011, 12:29:58 pm »Message ID: 314932

We have them in the family room and all bedrooms. Only use them during the summer with the A/C.