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hypersweeper

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A SCAM site
« on: June 17, 2008, 10:08:13 am »
Pirate's riches is a scam. Watch out!!  I had won a contest and made almost $200.00 when she banned me telling me that my referrer told her I used her e-mail address to complete offers and that she saw my e-mail in a GPT owner forum and that they said my e-mail was fake.

Well I assure you any of you can figure out very quickly that why in the heck would someone use a fake e-mail to do offers when it only takes 2 min to make a real one.. Common sense right.. Not only that I never knew a GPT site owner to ban someone solely on here say and reading something in a forum, if that's even true.

So anyway! Just a warning about Pirates Riches. Be weary, I was banned and I did not do anything fraudulent and I certaintly would never use a fake dang e-mail when I could make a new real one in 2 min. ;D

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 10:39:21 am »
This person used fake emails on three other gpt sites and was banned as well. I recieved word from two of my affiliates that she had been using fake emails and her offers were reversed. This was directly from the affiliate network that the offers she did came from. This is yet another frauder who is angry that she got caught. Sighhh ::)
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 12:43:56 pm by piratesriches »

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 10:56:36 am »
Well let me pipe in here also...
hypersweeper was also a user on our site Fire House Offers. She has been banned because the IP she used to register with us is NO where close to another site she registered on. So until she proves to us her address proof she will continue to be banned.
As for email addresses and reversals..
Last month I had 5 reversals due to users emails being bounced back to the advertiser. But with each user it was only once...not numerous times. Had it of been numerous times, or even more than once, I would also have banned the user.
And yes people do in fact put in fraudulent information such as email addresses, names, first and last, mailing addresses etc. You ask...why would someone make a fake email address? Well...I ask you...why would one of our users who won a contest register with our site using a fake mailing address only to have the money order sent back to us.
I dont know why...perhaps you could shed some light on this for us? Or why would a user register using a fraudulent name and address, and do offers using even more fraudulent info? I dont know...do you?
All I do know is this...our hands are tied when it comes to fraud. When we get information from one of our affiliates that fraud has been committed we as site owners have NO choice but to take the user off our site.
If what you say is true, and the emails you used were correct, (im saying this as a former GPT user myself) then be more careful how you type the email address in, or better yet, do what I did and copy paste the email address in. I could understand one email getting bounced back to an advertiser but NOT multiple emails.
This is WHY you were banned from pirates riches...it has NOTHING to do with contest winnings.! Ya know what? IF you would have used genuine emails, etc, this would not have happend. Period!

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 10:58:27 am »
sorry but prirate riches was recommended to me by a highly thought of site owner!

hubby joined there and has'nt had any problems.. has'nt really done anything as he's never home lol but still... i am a member of the site that recommened me and i love it! i believe they know each other well as they both have each other's sites on their site... '

so sorry but untill i see fraud, or scam, i'll tell hubby to stick with it :).

sorry but this is the net. you can not believe everything you hear and you saying they scammed you is your word agrest her's. so unless their is more people that come and say the same thing i have to go by what my eyes see. the proof is in the pudding

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 11:00:22 am »
Pirate's riches is a scam. Watch out!!  I had won a contest and made almost $200.00 when she banned me telling me that my referrer told her I used her e-mail address to complete offers and that she saw my e-mail in a GPT owner forum and that they said my e-mail was fake.

Well I assure you any of you can figure out very quickly that why in the heck would someone use a fake e-mail to do offers when it only takes 2 min to make a real one.. Common sense right.. Not only that I never knew a GPT site owner to ban someone solely on here say and reading something in a forum, if that's even true.

So anyway! Just a warning about Pirates Riches. Be weary, I was banned and I did not do anything fraudulent and I certaintly would never use a fake dang e-mail when I could make a new real one in 2 min. ;D


many people use fake ( dispossaible emails all the time ) that is a no no on all sites!

and as far as her believeing someone else.... all she had to do was check into it and could find out the truth about that veryyy easily.

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 11:20:46 am »
Thankyou very much, both of you for your support :) It is soooooo frustrating number one to have people fraud the site and then when they are caught, bash the site.  ::)

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 12:04:09 pm »
As far as fire house offers  GPT site I've never even done an offer at your place.. I joined yes, and so did my husband which may have been wrong but I never had any intention of sticking around at your site. This is about being an active member and being accused of using fake e-mails to do offers. Not joining a site with 2 different e-mails. BIG DIFFERENCE :bootyshake:

What in the hell constitutes a fake e-mail?  Tons of GPT users use multiply e-mails to complete offers and sign-up to different sites. So you tell me. What is a fake e-mail? All the e-mails that I gave are real e-mails to real addresses that I check once a week so what is so fake about that? tell me please. ;D
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 02:24:28 pm by hypersweeper »

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 12:09:47 pm »
Well let me pipe in here also...
hypersweeper was also a user on our site Fire House Offers. She has been banned because the IP she used to register with us is NO where close to another site she registered on. So until she proves to us her address proof she will continue to be banned.
As for email addresses and reversals..
Last month I had 5 reversals due to users emails being bounced back to the advertiser. But with each user it was only once...not numerous times. Had it of been numerous times, or even more than once, I would also have banned the user.
And yes people do in fact put in fraudulent information such as email addresses, names, first and last, mailing addresses etc. You ask...why would someone make a fake email address? Well...I ask you...why would one of our users who won a contest register with our site using a fake mailing address only to have the money order sent back to us.
I dont know why...perhaps you could shed some light on this for us? Or why would a user register using a fraudulent name and address, and do offers using even more fraudulent info? I dont know...do you?
All I do know is this...our hands are tied when it comes to fraud. When we get information from one of our affiliates that fraud has been committed we as site owners have NO choice but to take the user off our site.


I understand what you are saying and everything makes complete sense, I sent apology after apology to the lady of pirates riches because I truly had no clue to what I had done wrong. She said she was considering it but then changed her mind. All of the e-mails I use are real I can promise you that. So what else could it have been? I use all correct info including name address and phone ect.
What makes an offer bounce back to an advertiser? could it be the advertiser's error in some way?
And the only reason it happened numerous times was because I only had one warning from the PR owner and did not have a chance to rectify the situation or find out what the heck was going on. Any info regarding this matter from you will be appreciated and helpful. Thanks! ;D
If what you say is true, and the emails you used were correct, (im saying this as a former GPT user myself) then be more careful how you type the email address in, or better yet, do what I did and copy paste the email address in. I could understand one email getting bounced back to an advertiser but NOT multiple emails.
This is WHY you were banned from pirates riches...it has NOTHING to do with contest winnings.! Ya know what? IF you would have used genuine emails, etc, this would not have happend. Period!

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 12:11:48 pm »
I understand what you are saying and everything makes complete sense, I sent apology after apology to the lady of pirates riches because I truly had no clue to what I had done wrong. She said she was considering it but then changed her mind. All of the e-mails I use are real I can promise you that. So what else could it have been? I use all correct info including name address and phone ect.
What makes an offer bounce back to an advertiser? could it be the advertiser's error in some way?
And the only reason it happened numerous times was because I only had one warning from the PR owner and did not have a chance to rectify the situation or find out what the heck was going on. Any info regarding this matter from you will be appreciated and helpful. Thanks!

I don't know if her site is a scam or not I am just really upset. I have 3 kids and tons of animals I have to take care of being a housewife just trying to make a few extra dollars. I intentionally did nothing wrong at all. If it had been intentionall I could understand her holding the ban on me. but it was a honest mistake. Maybe a typo error, I don't know but other than that I begged her forgiveness thinking it would be obvious that I did not realize what the heck was going on. Oh well! I have been praying over the matter and God above knows I'm right and I'll just have to let it go and move on to some other great sites out there. God bless all!  ;D  Pray for our troops.

Not only that I certaintly did not know that I had to register at every GPT site with the same e-mail address. For Fire house offers I may have signed up with another one of my legit and real e-mails but I had every intention of getting started on your site soon.I sent a contact ticket on that issue. Guess I won't now. But anyway, I thought it was ok! to sign up at different GPT sites with an e-mail of my choosing as long as it is real? What's wrong with that? And the only reason it was probably numerous bounce backs was because I did tons of offers in one day. But it was a first time mistake.

One more thing, I am a member of about 6 other GPT sites and have been for almost a year now? I used the same e-mails at PRiches that I do at those places. Never got banned from any of them saying my e-mails were fake. Why is that?

I am not trying to bash your site, if I did I am sorry! I'm just upset. I just wish you would have forgiven me and given me a second chance. It was my first mistake and one I didn't even know i was making.

Why not this, I sent you a list of all the e-mails that I used. Check them out see if there real for yourself, or check your list of the fake e-mail and see if it's one of the one's that I used. Send me the fake e-mail address so I can tell you if it's one I used or not? There has to be a way for me to have proof. I'm having a hard time with it because I have about 9-10 e-mails I use and all are real not fake.

Not only that the lady from PR said that my referrer told her that I used her e-mail which was a lie because I e-mailed my referrer and she said she never said such a thing.

I'm very willing to have people gang up on me just to get some issues resolved over this situation I know there are tons of other people that have been banned and don't even know why.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 12:47:56 pm by hypersweeper »

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 12:44:31 pm »
I would also like to weigh in here briefly since this is a very charged topic lately given the amount of fraud we have had to contend with lately. I am the admin over at The Dragon's Gold and have seen just about every type of fraud out there in the 9 months we have been open. I also have this member on my site and while they have not done any offers to date, I can say with 100% sureness that the admin over at Pirate's Riches did NOT scam this member and would never even dream about canceling anyone's account just because they have won a contest. Regardless of how you felt, or they way you perceived things, making a claim like that on an open forum is not only unprofessional, it is libelous.

I understand that dealing with people like this is all part of the business but when I see the integrity and character of someone as exceptional as the admin over at PR, well...I take it very personally. Mary has gone out of her way to be fair as well as create an excellent source of extra income for people to participate in and negativity like this is extremely rude and uncalled for. I will be banning this account from my site as well.

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 12:54:56 pm »
Oh! that's real proffessional dragonsgold. Ban someone for a forum discussion. Go ahead join the band wagon. There's a lot of people that have been through what I've been through and they're out there so join the hater's crowd and ban me I don't really care. ;D

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 01:06:46 pm »
If you had simply presented your concerns in a professional and mature manner, I would have seen it for what it was, your opinion, and I would have never judged you for it. However since you decided to act in the manner that you did, in combination with the fact that 2 admins I trust implicitly have had problems with you, I have no desire to have you work my site. I have enough problems to knowingly keep someone who is a troublemaker and a frauder.

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 01:11:59 pm »
come on people. I am reading here, and I think this is going toooo far. I know hypersweeper, and believe this person IS NOT a scammer. She simply made a mistake. What is the big deal. How can you punish someone because your friend says something unpleasant about them. Come on. I dont want to get involved, but I just dont like where this is going.

relax all.. life is short.

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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 01:12:19 pm »
I'm sort of shocked reading this thread and it is going way too far. I don't like to see anyone banned from a GPT site and believe owners should work with members when things go wrong due to this kind of a mistake. I don't know about many of the various issues involved here, only the owners do... but banning someone from a completely unrelated site because of a conversation in another forum seems completely unprofessional. I had sympathy for all of the sites mentioned here... but the kind of retaliatory banning at the end of the discussions seems wrong on face.

A few chargebacks... this CAN happen to an innocent member and if a banning occurs, that's completely understandable. However, to then ban the user in retaliation from other 3rd party sites for posting here is going too far.  

Professionalism means explaining why the member was banned. Owners should be rational, calm and professional. Yes, this member was upset... so explain clearly what happened and why. Explain that there's fraud and it's difficult to be a GPT owner. That's all that needed to happen!

When your site is attacked... your members will come to your defense, especially if it's unjust; you have nothing to fear. So in the future, I personally would simply respond with both understanding, some sympathy and a clear explanation of what happened. That will leave the readers with a good feeling about your site and they will disregard the origional poster.

Just think... if the three site owners responded glowingly about the site in question and the owner... I would have been reassured and would have disregarded the complaint. I agree with ethel rose... life is short... and this entire conversation just leaves me with a really bad feeling about everyone involved in this.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2008, 01:29:37 pm by jpomeranz »

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Re: A SCAM site
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008, 01:12:48 pm »
As far as fire house offers  GPT site I've never even done an offer at your place..

What in the hell constitutes a fake e-mail?  Tons of GPT users use multiply e-mails to complete offers and sign-up to different sites. So you tell me. What is a fake e-mail? All the e-mails that I gave are real e-mails to real addresses that I check once a week so what is so fake about that? tell me please. ;D


for one watch your month please,. for 2. i told you,.,. a fake email is a dispossible one that you can not use on any site!
3rd. why would you come on here join the forum just to bash another site?


have a little respect for fusioncash and it's members please.
thank you

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