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sh1980

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Guys what do you think is Michelle Bachmann going to win the primaries?

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 07:43:22 am »
I think her chances are pretty nill. I think she's more after a little more name recognition for an eventual senate run. If she were to somehow to get the GOP nomination, I think Obama would stomp her in the general election.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 09:11:19 am »
I think it's too early to tell what her chances are. I really like her and Herman Cain, though. If the establishment GOP thinks the TEA party folks are going to roll over and support some RiNO like Romney, they're more delusional than Obama.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 07:44:44 am »
I don't think that Michelle Backmann has a strong enough personality to lead this country. She seems smart enough but it takes so much more than that to be the president. A leader must have a strong presence and I have to say she doesn't have it. She may do better as a governor but, the last thing we need is a weak president. However, I will say that she is a major upgrade from that bimbo Sarah Palin.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 05:53:14 am »
I don't think it's too early to tell, It is as plain as the writing on the wall, She has no chance!

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2011, 09:12:31 am »
30% of Americans fall for her Evangelical based fear tactics and lies.

This may be enough to win the GOP primary, I'd say she has about 25-30% chance to win the nomination if Sarah Palin does not enter.  The minute Palin enters, Michelle Bachman becomes irrelevant.  Same with Rick Perry, who may or may not run.

None of the above mentioned has a chance to win in a general election.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2011, 03:00:28 pm »
30% of Americans fall for her Evangelical based fear tactics and lies.

This may be enough to win the GOP primary, I'd say she has about 25-30% chance to win the nomination if Sarah Palin does not enter.  The minute Palin enters, Michelle Bachman becomes irrelevant.  Same with Rick Perry, who may or may not run.

None of the above mentioned has a chance to win in a general election.

All signs point to Palin not running. Most of the signs point to Perry running for sure. If you followed politics beyond mouthing what they tell you in the mainstream media, you'd know these things.

Which "Evangelical based fear tactics and lies" are you referring to exactly? I'm not an Evangelical Christian, and think Bachmann will definitely draw many economic Conservatives and Independants-- regardless of their social views.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 05:24:15 pm »
All signs point to Palin not running. Most of the signs point to Perry running for sure. If you followed politics beyond mouthing what they tell you in the mainstream media, you'd know these things.

Which "Evangelical based fear tactics and lies" are you referring to exactly? I'm not an Evangelical Christian, and think Bachmann will definitely draw many economic Conservatives and Independants-- regardless of their social views.

Everything that comes out of Bachmann's mouth is a lie.  SATSQ.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 07:32:18 pm »
30% of Americans fall for her Evangelical based fear tactics and lies.

This may be enough to win the GOP primary, I'd say she has about 25-30% chance to win the nomination if Sarah Palin does not enter.  The minute Palin enters, Michelle Bachman becomes irrelevant.  Same with Rick Perry, who may or may not run.

None of the above mentioned has a chance to win in a general election.

All signs point to Palin not running. Most of the signs point to Perry running for sure. If you followed politics beyond mouthing what they tell you in the mainstream media, you'd know these things.

Which "Evangelical based fear tactics and lies" are you referring to exactly? I'm not an Evangelical Christian, and think Bachmann will definitely draw many economic Conservatives and Independants-- regardless of their social views.

Rick Perry will likely run, but it's not official.  No need to be an *bleep*, and let's not assume I follow the mainstream media and just quote what they say.  I have more knowledge of Geopolitical issues and American government in my pinky than you do in your brain. 

Bachmann, since running her PTA, has asserted that everything she has done was a personal mission from God.  She has said this numerous times on the campaign trail as well.  She banned Disney's Aladin from her schools, as she claimed it promoted Witchcraft.  She believes Obama is weakinging the doller in order to allow the Chinese to take over our country.  She also is a birther, which is the position of most closed minded Evangelical Christians.   These are things that will force independents to choose Obama over her in a general election. 

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 12:51:24 pm »
30% of Americans fall for her Evangelical based fear tactics and lies.

This may be enough to win the GOP primary, I'd say she has about 25-30% chance to win the nomination if Sarah Palin does not enter.  The minute Palin enters, Michelle Bachman becomes irrelevant.  Same with Rick Perry, who may or may not run.

None of the above mentioned has a chance to win in a general election.

All signs point to Palin not running. Most of the signs point to Perry running for sure. If you followed politics beyond mouthing what they tell you in the mainstream media, you'd know these things.

Which "Evangelical based fear tactics and lies" are you referring to exactly? I'm not an Evangelical Christian, and think Bachmann will definitely draw many economic Conservatives and Independants-- regardless of their social views.

Rick Perry will likely run, but it's not official.  No need to be an *bleep*, and let's not assume I follow the mainstream media and just quote what they say.  I have more knowledge of Geopolitical issues and American government in my pinky than you do in your brain. 

Bachmann, since running her PTA, has asserted that everything she has done was a personal mission from God.  She has said this numerous times on the campaign trail as well.  She banned Disney's Aladin from her schools, as she claimed it promoted Witchcraft.  She believes Obama is weakinging the doller in order to allow the Chinese to take over our country.  She also is a birther, which is the position of most closed minded Evangelical Christians.   These are things that will force independents to choose Obama over her in a general election. 

I don't think I was being a [donkey] by pointing out the fact that you based your arguement on someone who is not even going to be in the race. You mentioned Palin TWICE. There's also no need for profanity or insults here. We should be able to argue without being disagreeable.

Many people have a personal faith, and it's none of your (or anyone else's) business. I'd rather someone pray about a decision then decide it based on how much money a political contributor gave them. Obama pushed through the Stimulus to help the unions who got him elected. That is a much scarier situation to me.

As far as the Disney movie, I'll check into that. It's the first time I've heard of that. Thank you for mentioning it.

The things Obama's Treasury Department have done, like dumping more and more money into the system, have weakened the dollar. If this continues, it's possible that the Chinese will decide to call up the loans we owe to them. How is saying this a scare tactic?

I'm pretty sure the birther issue has been put to rest. Why can't you?

Surely you have better arguments than these? Obama has only made the economy worse. That's why independents and many Democrats will not vote for him in 2012.

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 03:39:33 pm »
30% of Americans fall for her Evangelical based fear tactics and lies.

This may be enough to win the GOP primary, I'd say she has about 25-30% chance to win the nomination if Sarah Palin does not enter.  The minute Palin enters, Michelle Bachman becomes irrelevant.  Same with Rick Perry, who may or may not run.

None of the above mentioned has a chance to win in a general election.

All signs point to Palin not running. Most of the signs point to Perry running for sure. If you followed politics beyond mouthing what they tell you in the mainstream media, you'd know these things.

Which "Evangelical based fear tactics and lies" are you referring to exactly? I'm not an Evangelical Christian, and think Bachmann will definitely draw many economic Conservatives and Independants-- regardless of their social views.

Rick Perry will likely run, but it's not official.  No need to be an *bleep*, and let's not assume I follow the mainstream media and just quote what they say.  I have more knowledge of Geopolitical issues and American government in my pinky than you do in your brain. 

Bachmann, since running her PTA, has asserted that everything she has done was a personal mission from God.  She has said this numerous times on the campaign trail as well.  She banned Disney's Aladin from her schools, as she claimed it promoted Witchcraft.  She believes Obama is weakinging the doller in order to allow the Chinese to take over our country.  She also is a birther, which is the position of most closed minded Evangelical Christians.   These are things that will force independents to choose Obama over her in a general election. 

I don't think I was being a [donkey] by pointing out the fact that you based your arguement on someone who is not even going to be in the race. You mentioned Palin TWICE. There's also no need for profanity or insults here. We should be able to argue without being disagreeable.

Many people have a personal faith, and it's none of your (or anyone else's) business. I'd rather someone pray about a decision then decide it based on how much money a political contributor gave them. Obama pushed through the Stimulus to help the unions who got him elected. That is a much scarier situation to me.

As far as the Disney movie, I'll check into that. It's the first time I've heard of that. Thank you for mentioning it.

The things Obama's Treasury Department have done, like dumping more and more money into the system, have weakened the dollar. If this continues, it's possible that the Chinese will decide to call up the loans we owe to them. How is saying this a scare tactic?

I'm pretty sure the birther issue has been put to rest. Why can't you?

Surely you have better arguments than these? Obama has only made the economy worse. That's why independents and many Democrats will not vote for him in 2012.

Making an assumption that I get my information from the media is much more insulting than anything I can say without bringing your mother into it (which I of course will not do).  I loathe the media because they cover a lie the same as a fact, when their job as journalists is to expose lies and half truths.

A few key points:

Bachmann is saying Obama wants to replace the dollar with Chinese currency.  This is not the same as the Chinese calling the loans we owe them, which would be a scary scenario indeed.  However, Bachmann's stance shows she is not playing with facts.

There is nothing wrong with personal faith.  In fact, I want someone who does not believe they are the highest power in the world.  Some atheists think this way, and some Christians do as well.  However, I want my policy (economic, foreign, and social) based on FACTS, RESEARCH, and LOGIC, rather than blind faith.  We had a president who thought Jesus whispered in his ear at night, and it resulted in a lot of problems for this country, which we are still facing.   If Bachmann leads on she has been personally appointed by God, that could be the same situation.

Another key point, the birther issue should have been put to rest.  But Bachmann still uses it on the campaign trail "it's time we have a real american back in the white house"  she said within the past week. Sad fact is 30% of Americans still believe he was not born in America.  It's up to those who are smart enough to know better to keep it an issue if the other 30% choose to keep up the lie.

Finally, Obama's bail out had NOTHING to do with Unions.  Unions are a vital asset to the middle class, and they have been thrown under the past year.  If you follow the money..which the media does not know how to do, you would see who donates the most to Obama's campaign.  In 2008, 85% of his money came from doners on Wall Street...It makes sense he has helped them out at the expense of the middle class.  He wants to keep getting their donations, so he's putting them first before the struggling families in this country.  He and the media would never admit that, but follow the money and you can see it. 

I agree that the dollar has been weakened, and that needs to be fixed.  Printing more and more currency is not the answer, and I think we could both agree to that.  However, if tax levels were back to they were in 2000, we would not have an out of control deficit. 
Because of that, we need to raise revenues, and CUT expenses to have a balanced budget for the federal government.  That would help get us on a solid footing, but I haven't heard many people calling for balancing it (perhaps Ron Paul?)

Sorry if this is a long post, but there is so much misinformation out there, and this election certainly seems to be the lesser of two evils..

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Re: What are the chances of Michelle Bachmann to secure the GOP ticket?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2011, 01:05:43 am »
Oh god, I hope none. She's one of the people who helped shutdown Minnesota and seems like the Sarah Palin of that state.

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