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walksalone11

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2011, 07:09:33 pm »
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I'm sure you're familiar with the concept of free will.God is not going to micro-manage his creations like the parent of a 3 year old.

Your god does not allow for free will. If he knows past, present, and future, he ultimately controls everything you do because he has seen it before it happens. It's Fatalism which is furthest from freewill. Basically the Abrahamic god plays with a stacked deck because of his powers. The christian definition of "choice" is an illusion because the choice is already known by the god. Unless you believe your god is not perfect, one could easily conclude that since people are going to hell and he knew they would from day 1, he is malevolent. Here's a better example-

http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=17937.0

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God's punishments fit the crime.It's called justice.

Hitler -- Killed millions + last minute of life he accepts Christ = Heaven.
Jew -- Led a selfless life + Concentration Camp + didn't accept Christ before he was gassed = Eternal Torment.

That's justice?

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Yep.Doesn't make it any less correct.

Well with that logic Zeus, Odysseus, Superman, and Harry Potter are all true stories as well.

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There is nothing contradicting about the Gospel accounts.Anyone knows that if they were identical in every detail,skeptics would cry fraud louder than they do now.

Not sure how much you've studied the NT, but there are truckloads of contradictions.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_contradictions_be_found_in_the_Gospel_narratives
http://atheism.about.com/od/gospelcontradictions/p/PassionWeek.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_carlson/nt_contradictions.html

You may play the 'biased' card on saying these sources are atheist/agnostic, but remember that they're quoting bible verses.

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The difference is the facts are all there.The only person to whom all the thousands of prophesies written by hundreds of different writers over several centuries could be fulfilled was Jesus Christ.

Name one prophecy that came true that wasn't a self-fulfilling prophecy. Remember-- in order for something to be a legitimate prophecy, all of the details must be there-- precise names, dates, details, etc.

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Christianity is not a blind faith,there are many Historical/Archaeological proofs like the ones I posted

Where? I didn't see anything.

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Even the most hardened skeptic must except that Jesus Christ lived,died and His tomb was found empty.Tossing around myths and legends doesn't disprove that.

You do know that most stories in the bible are myths, right? I mean with Jesus it boils down to a romanticized hero with super powers. Very little research is needed to see the bogus supernatural qualities within the stories.

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To most skeptics nothing short of a front row seat to the Resurrection is going to be convincing.There is proof that the bible is Historically accurate,but if it's met with a hardened heart,obviously nothing is going to convince you.

Hey, Walksalone and I are both open to proofs. I've given you plenty of basic rational information from various sources saying that the bible is seldomly accurate. All you have done is posted something from a biased creationist site with no proofs at all.
Well Bro......yet another sock-puppet parroting all the mumbo-jumbo that all the others recite as fact, yet still, not one shred of verifiable fact. ***yawn*** Dang, shouldn't have advised the other Noob, not to post yet another "end of the world thread.......

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2011, 09:10:35 pm »
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Well Bro......yet another sock-puppet parroting all the mumbo-jumbo that all the others recite as fact, yet still, not one shred of verifiable fact. ***yawn*** Dang, shouldn't have advised the other Noob, not to post yet another "end of the world thread.......

Ugh...if I see that thread-consistency again I'll cry.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2011, 09:17:28 pm »
Yes, there is.  Ask anyone who lives in Texas.  If it isn't hell apparently it feels pretty close to it lately.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2011, 06:35:32 am »
I know that there is a hell, because I am living in it now.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2011, 11:06:28 am »

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2011, 11:18:32 am »
Well Truthful I Belive That There Is A Hell I have Herd Sevral People Say That They Belive That It Is Here On Earth I Am Not Sure Maybe Somthing You Would Need To Ask A Preist Or Preacher???  ???

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2011, 11:22:10 am »
Well Truthful I Belive That There Is A Hell I have Herd Sevral People Say That They Belive That It Is Here On Earth I Am Not Sure Maybe Somthing You Would Need To Ask A Preist Or Preacher???  ???
http://www.ministerregistration.org/ ........ask me again in a couple of days.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2011, 11:31:17 am »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIREJVPfQY&feature=share

EVERYBODY WATCH THIS VIDEO OR YOU'RE OFFICIALLY DUMB.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2011, 11:32:25 am »
If you think so.  Maybe in your dreams, in the movies or tv.  

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2011, 11:46:29 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIREJVPfQY&feature=share

EVERYBODY WATCH THIS VIDEO OR YOU'RE OFFICIALLY DUMB.

A man who makes perfect sense and tells it how it is. The religious freaks are so damn gullible.

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2011, 02:41:37 am »
100% there is
REALLY NOW?????

So tell me.......Does hell have a postcard or something?? Have you obtained a soil sample from hell, perhaps???? DNA from the devil????? Got friends you visit there often???(lol!) Is it a vacation spot I haven't yet heard of, is it on the map of the earth??? Perhaps its located on the Ring of FIRE?!?!?!?!? :wave:
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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2011, 02:44:26 am »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIREJVPfQY&feature=share

EVERYBODY WATCH THIS VIDEO OR YOU'RE OFFICIALLY DUMB.

A man who makes perfect sense and tells it how it is. The religious freaks are so damn gullible.
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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2011, 03:45:14 am »
I'm agnostic, so I don't believe we can prove or disprove the existence of God, the devil, heaven, or hell. But I don't think I could accept a God who would throw anyone into hell for eternity. Seriously, he creates human beings and then decides he needs to torture some of them for eternity because they aren't behaving themselves. Have you really thought about someone being tortured forever?

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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 02:25:54 am »
I'm agnostic, so I don't believe we can prove or disprove the existence of God, the devil, heaven, or hell. But I don't think I could accept a God who would throw anyone into hell for eternity. Seriously, he creates human beings and then decides he needs to torture some of them for eternity because they aren't behaving themselves. Have you really thought about someone being tortured forever?
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Re: Is there a Hell?
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2011, 12:33:21 pm »
What is your definition of Hell?? One would need to know, BEFORE, one could give a meaningful answer.

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