Forum issues too much to put up with

[walksalone11]

I'm going to do a bit of research before initiating the new thread but will once I am ready. I am usually a bit reluctant to do a lot of in depth speaking on a Nation other than my own, so want to be very careful about not mis-speaking. It may be a couple days or so.

That won't be any problem at all.  If there's anything that a Hopi, Navajo or Dine would find inappropriate to talk about outside of the tribe, omit that and no one else will ever know something was omitted.

Even tho I have many people from other Nations whom I share a mutual feeling of Relation, too, there are many things that we do not speak of even to each other. I doubt I will become privy to any thing that would be considered inappropriate in that manner, however, of course, when speaking with them that caution will be mentioned.

That's just the way it is. Even with in my Nation (I wont speak now of others) some things are Nation specific, some are clan specific, family etc. As an example there are some ceremony that only Medicine Person's are allowed into, no one who isn't of that group, even knows what goes on in those Ceremonies. We take these things for granted and think nothing of it.

That's pretty much as I'd thought but, it's good that you confirmed that for those who might not have previously been aware that some things are on a need-to-know basis.  Thanks.  Rememer to just visit and just bs with those you talk to as well. 

Only thing is, with a lot of folks when you tell them that, they get all butt hurt and give "440" reasons why they are "entitled" to such information.

Dude.....we invented BSing.....haven't you ever heard of the great Chief Sit'n Bullshit?

[falcon9]

Even tho I have many people from other Nations whom I share a mutual feeling of Relation, too, there are many things that we do not speak of even to each other. I doubt I will become privy to any thing that would be considered inappropriate in that manner, however, of course, when speaking with them that caution will be mentioned.

That's just the way it is. Even with in my Nation (I wont speak now of others) some things are Nation specific, some are clan specific, family etc. As an example there are some ceremony that only Medicine Person's are allowed into, no one who isn't of that group, even knows what goes on in those Ceremonies. We take these things for granted and think nothing of it.

Only thing is, with a lot of folks when you tell them that, they get all butt hurt and give "440" reasons why they are "entitled" to such information.

Yeah, I've found that if one omits something and doesn't mention that something's been omitted, it saves some aforementioned "butt hurt".

Dude.....we invented BSing.....haven't you ever heard of the great Chief Sit'n Bullshit?

Not only have I heard of the chief, I've also heard of his lesser-known third cousin the Pipe Carrier, "Blows-Smoke-Up-Azz".  

[walksalone11]

Speaking of the sense of entitlement I mention, check my latest post in the U.N. thread.

[falcon9]

Speaking of the sense of entitlement I mention, check my latest post in the U.N. thread.

I just looked at that, (and the linked info).  This part stood out especially; "The WIPO representative at the UNPFII clearly indicated that WIPO is not interested in the protection of indigenous knowledge systems, Harry said. “In fact he said that ‘if you’re interested in protections and conservation of traditional knowledge, then WIPO is not for you.’ He actually said that. What he didn’t say conversely, then, is ‘If you’re interested in exploiting and commercializing indigenous knowledge systems, then WIPO is for you.” "

People could send send reps like Chief Sitting Bull's cousin, (and try to keep a straight face while indulging in significant 'poetic license' to any misappropriaters who happen to wander by.

[walksalone11]

Speaking of the sense of entitlement I mention, check my latest post in the U.N. thread.

I just looked at that, (and the linked info).  This part stood out especially; "The WIPO representative at the UNPFII clearly indicated that WIPO is not interested in the protection of indigenous knowledge systems, Harry said. “In fact he said that ‘if you’re interested in protections and conservation of traditional knowledge, then WIPO is not for you.’ He actually said that. What he didn’t say conversely, then, is ‘If you’re interested in exploiting and commercializing indigenous knowledge systems, then WIPO is for you.” "

People could send send reps like Chief Sitting Bull's cousin, (and try to keep a straight face while indulging in significant 'poetic license' to any misappropriaters who happen to wander by.

You've undoubtably heard of the fluffy chick who went to the tattoo parlor to get "Peace" in Japanese tatted on her arm, and was thrilled with her new ink that actually read "I am an idiot".......who do you think taught them that?

[falcon9]

You've undoubtably heard of the fluffy chick who went to the tattoo parlor to get "Peace" in Japanese tatted on her arm, and was thrilled with her new ink that actually read "I am an idiot".......who do you think taught them that?

Doubtless "thrilled" fell short of capturing the degree of her elation.

[walksalone11]

Wow, this could wind up being a very long conversation, we might want to think about a separate thread? I have come across some info on that subject in some pretty un related research, but the content is not that fresh in my mind. Allow me, before responding other than vaguely, to refresh my memory. I'm thinking I saw something about that in a book I have on ancient rock art in this area. I'll check out your link, read up what I have and perhaps speak to some Dine and Hopi friends/Relatives I have here locally, and I will get back to you.

Excellent, that sounds interesting.  Go ahead and start a new d+d or off topic thread, (something like "Anasazi ancients"?), so we can clear out of this 'calling out' thread?

If you want, you go ahead and initiate the thread.

So far every thing I am coming up with disputes the claim that the Dine (Navajo) are not decended from the Anasazi. We probably should try to find out what evidence, the author of that piece, is basing his opinion.

So far, my thoughts on him is; he is of european decent speaking as an authority on NDNs.....strike 1

He is a journalist speaking as an un-biased authority on NDNs.....strike 2

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[falcon9]

If you want, you go ahead and initiate the thread.

Thread initiated.

So far every thing I am coming up with disputes the claim that the Dine (Navajo) are not decended from the Anasazi. We probably should try to find out what evidence, the author of that piece, is basing his opinion.

I'm still researching and will post findings to the d+d thread.

So far, my thoughts on him is; he is of european decent speaking as an authority on NDNs.....strike 1

He is a journalist speaking as an un-biased authority on NDNs.....strike 2

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[tzs]

I have had a great time earning money here in the 8 months I've been cashing out and doing surveys, but the constant chatter on the forums from a very few cutting down everybody else for their input has finally driven me off.  I needed to make at least 30 true posts each month to get the $3 bonus, but when I have to wade through anti religion posts and attacks from a few on the board, it just isn't worth it.  I have other sites that pay, and no one has to put up with this anti social behavior.  I'm gonna miss fusion cash, but not the attacks on everybody from a select few.

BYE!!!

[mom2taz]

those kind of people are everywhere in life...even here...just have to ignore and move on....don't let them control you.  I just ignore them...unless I am in a mood to debate them...LOL

[Azanne07]

i agree dont let those few run you off.

[falcon9]

i agree dont let those few run you off.

No member of FC can "run off" another.  Only the FC staff can ban members for TOS or policy violations.  Otherwise, anyone who chooses to leave FC does so of their own accord, (and probably because they couldn't impose their unreasonable demands upon this site).

Do enjoy your voluntary stay on FC and don't forget to make some money while you're here.

[sammywantsya]

i couldnt agree more.. this anti social behavior really turned me off as well... thats why i havent been on since a month now... i simply just ignore a few and it usually works that way. i wont let anyone run me over but if they have nothing better to do then to bully pple around then i had to at least try to get them off my back...

the most i ignored are all in here   gee

i also tend to leave after i cash out... cant believe some staff actually thinks this is right.. kinda makes you wonder a bit huh... theres a difference on having an opinion and then to attack them head on where the starter never wanted to debate in the first place....

ignoring the issue works.. just make a statement and move on..

PS just dont let them get at you too much its just gonna keep on going.. i have learned the hard way and now i tend to keep it light from the next month...  as long as you dont mention them its gonna be fine.. keep posting in a positive manner and if they follow you it means they want your attention. this is just from experince.. so im with you on that brotha just keep things real

[falcon9]

i simply just ignore a few and it usually works that way.
the most i ignored are all in here ...

Mentioning what's supposedly being ignored, (even in a roundabout way), isn't ignoring. 

i wont let anyone run me over but if they have nothing better to do then to bully pple around then i had to at least try to get them off my back...

Repeating untrue accusations does not confer truth upon them.
 

... cant believe some staff actually thinks this is right.. kinda makes you wonder a bit huh... 
ignoring the issue works.. just make a statement and move on..

What the FC staff felt wasn't "right" were at least three separate instances of your violations of FC Terms of Service and posting policies, (e.g., posting "calling out" threads,'trolling' another member and making false reports to the FC moderator about "bullying").

... as long as you dont mention them its gonna be fine.. keep posting in a positive manner and if they follow you it means they want your attention.

Such indirect trolling, (as in this post of yours « Reply #132 on: Today at 08:01:36 » Message ID: 544016), does not constitute "posting in a positive manner", although it does consist of posturing in a negative manner.  My reply to such a post - which you initiated, does not constitute 'following for attention', it consists of refuting assertions that you decided to make.  There has been no previous mention of you, no 'calling out' done since the last time you tried this passive-aggressive nonsense.

Try to remember, (or learn), that "ignoring" someone comprises a bit more than using the ignore button here; it does not mean continually mentioning, (even indirectly), those being ignored ... "the most i ignored are all in here ..." and "... as long as you dont mention them its gonna be fine.. ".

[girlswin2]

I hope you don't let the narrow minded run you off.  Just skip right past them and help those who you can and make your posts.  Trust me I just do what I can to help and then I say what I need to and thats it.  I rarely check to see what someone said to something I commented on.  IF I have a question I will check that but I suggest that you don't let them run you off.  FC is a good site that is a good thing.  Keep you head up and let them say whatever they want as long as you know the truth thats what matters.  The people who like people like you will always find each other to follow in this forum to chat with.  Keep up all your hard work you can do it.