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nguzman1

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2012, 08:33:53 pm »
I remember that with my church we did stuff for Halloween like gatherings and having candy but it was so that teens and kids were safe and indoors.

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2012, 10:06:44 pm »
As a child I dressed up.  Trick or treated.  Went through some corn mazes and rode a few hay rides.  As I got older I attended a few haunted houses.  Even as an adult I've attended costume parties through my children's schools and work.  As far as I'm concerned Halloween is for the kids to dress up...load up on sugar.  When I was growing up religion was never factored into the  ambiance of the rituals.

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2012, 10:15:37 pm »
Google why JWs do not celebrate halloween.Then let your conscience be your guide on how God feel about it.

It originated in Babylon where lots of other pagan practices did.

You will find some interesting stuff there NOT only biblical but from encyclopedia & other publications.


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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2012, 10:48:42 pm »
 Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Halloween
Most people view the celebrations of Halloween as nothing more than harmless fun—an excuse for children and adults to dress up and lose their inhibitions. Some might argue that the origin of Halloween celebrations is of little consequence despite the fact that these celebrations are undeniably pagan in origin. But how should Christians view Halloween if they truly wish to worship and please God as best they can? Would even limited participation in the celebration meet with God's disapproval? The following will assist in determining the answers to these questions.

Halloween's Pagan Origin

"Its name means hallowed or holy evening." - The World Book Encyclopedia, 1952, Vol. 8, pp. 3245-6.

To really understand this "holy evening" you must realize that Halloween, as we know it today, has grown from several different sources. The main source has been traced back to religious ceremonies of the ancient Babylonians. - The New Golden Bough, Sir James Frazer, edited by Dr. T. H. Gaster, p. 468, Mentor Book, 1964; and Funk and Wagnalls Standard Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology, and Legend, 1949, p. 38.

From Babylon, this pagan religious celebration spread throughout much of the world.

The Druids of ancient Britain also borrowed this Babylonian festival and celebrated it to honor Samhain, Lord of the Dead, whose festival fell on November 1. - Halloween Through the Centuries, Linton, p. 4. They believed this pagan god called together "certain wicked souls on Halloween" - Encyclopedia Britannica, 14th ed., Vol. 11, p. 103.

In honoring this pagan god, his supplicators hoped to be protected from these "wicked souls." Therefore, many of the things done in celebrating this "holy evening" are in honor of the false gods of the Druids. For example, "When you light a candle inside the jeering pumpkin face, you are in a small way imitating the Celtic Druids" who lit "great bonfires on hilltops to honor the sun god" and thereby help keep away winter and the evil spirits. - The Book of Holidays, McSpadden, 1958 ed., pp. 149-153; and All About American Holidays, Krythe, 1962, pp. 214-215. Since the "Mother" Church (which was established in Rome about 200 years after the death of the last Apostle) embarked on a course of adopting and adapting pagan religious ceremonies into the Church, it is not surprising that elements of ancient Roman false worship were also added to the "Holy Evening" celebration. For example, "when you duck for apples ... you are doing as the Romans did - - honoring Pomona, the Roman goddess of orchards." - The Book of Holidays, pp. 149-153 and Collier's Encyclopedia, 1975, Vol. 2, p. 192.

Although Halloween poses as a Christian holiday, it is exposed as a pagan feast. One dictionary describes "pagan" as: "One of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion." "Polytheistic" means "the worship of or belief in more than one god." True Christians should consider these things as serious because God views these things very seriously. (Lev. 19:2) God Himself said: "You must not have any other gods against my face. Because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion." (Ex. 20:1-5) NWT

Yet some may wonder what harm could possibly come from letting children attend a costume party or simply participate in a superficial way. Yes, it is not Scripturally wrong for children to have a costume party or play games such as bobbing for apples. However, doing so as a part of Halloween would be celebrating that pagan religious feast. This would be compromising Christian principles. The Bible condemns the whole idea of putting a Christian mask on a pagan practice.

If pagan ceremonies, customs, god names, etc. are really mixed in with ceremonies, customs, etc. that we use today, they are not merely unacceptable - - - they are detestable to God. We must completely get away from these unclean things and not even "touch" them. (2 Cor. 6:17) Notice how exclusive the worship of God must be: "Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips." - Exodus 23:13, NIVSB. Also see: What Does the Bible Really Teach? - Take Your Stand for True Worship from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WBTS).

Halloween and Witchcraft

The real religion celebrated by the "Holy Evening" of Halloween is still a living religion. What is sometimes called "witchcraft" has had its ups and downs but is still practiced as a religion in nearly every country of the world.

"It began in the shadowy darkness of man's early religion. It lived and flourished through the ages and it is by no means wiped out even yet. Witchcraft in the Middle Ages was the `art' of controlling natural forces by power obtained from the Devil. Witches were people who made agreements with the Evil One." - Britannica Jr., 1957 ed., Vol. 15, pp. 131-132.

Whether deluded or not, these "witches" were (and are) making a public declaration: a demonstration of their faith and a defiance of the God of the Bible. They continued to practice their religion (in many different, varying sects) in spite of great persecution. This religion of the Middle Ages actually grew out of the earlier pagan Druid religion.

"These rites did not die .... When a monk or knight swore that in a clearing of the woods he had seen witches dancing around the devil, he did not lie. What he saw was ... people worshiping with a priest of the heathen religion. The prayer meetings of the witches were called witches' Sabbaths. .... Two nights especially were set aside - October 31, called Halloween and the eve of May Day, called Walpurgis." - Britannica Jr., pp. 131-132.

"Though the Church was able to destroy the temples and outward forms of worship of these heathen religions, it could not completely eradicate the faith and beliefs of their priests and worshipers. These found an outlet during the Middle Ages in witchcraft which was devoted to the worship of Satan. This cult included periodic meetings, known as witches' sabbaths, which were given over to feasting and revelry. One of the most important sabbaths was held on Halloween." - Encyclopedia Britannica, 1956, Vol. 11, pp. 106-107.

"The witches' sabbat [sabbath], or Black Mass, was a mockery of the religious one. It began with the assembly of the witches' covens, always at night, in forests, open fields, at crossroads, and even secretly in churches.... The name `sabbats' for these meetings is believed to have come from the Old Hebrew Sabbath - the seventh day." - A Cauldron of Witches, Alderman, 1973, p. 9.

The Bible warns against the practice of spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The apostle Paul wrote: “I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons.” (1 Corinthians 10:20-22, New International Version) He also asked: “What common interest can there be between goodness and evil? How can light and darkness share life together? How can there be harmony between Christ and the devil? What can a believer have in common with an unbeliever?” (2 Corinthians 6:14-16, Phillips)

While it is true that the vast majority of those who celebrate Halloween would claim to reject Satanic practices, we should, nevertheless, be aware that historically this holiday has close connections with the occult. Therefore, celebrating Halloween can serve as a door leading to spiritism, especially for impressionable youths. Pagan rites and traditions tainted by spiritism simply have no place in Christian worship; they are far from harmless. (Also see: Dabbling in the Occult—What's the Harm? and What You Should Know About Witchcraft from the WBTS.)

Halloween - Based on Unscriptural Beliefs

Finally, Halloween, All Saints’ Day, and All Souls’ Day are all based on the beliefs that the dead suffer or that they can somehow bring harm to the living. However, the Bible clearly shows that such beliefs are not true, saying: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) For that reason, the Bible counsels: “All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol [the common grave of mankind], the place to which you are going.” (Ecclesiastes 9:10) Since the dead are unconscious and thus incapable of harming others or suffering themselves, we have nothing to fear from them. At the same time, prayers to help them are of no use whatsoever. But this does not mean that there is no hope for our dead loved ones because the Bible assures us that “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) (Also see: The Bible's Viewpoint - What Happens at Death? from the WBTS.)

Why Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Halloween

Clearly, God does not approve of any ceremonies or customs that have any pagan associations. The Bible also warns us about the practice of spiritism - of which Halloween historically has close connections with. And finally, Halloween is based on beliefs that run completely contrary to what the Bible teaches.
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(More information concerning Halloween can be found in the 10/8/01 issue of the Awake! magazine published by the WBTS.)

Also see:
Why don't Jehovah's Witnesses celebrate HALLOWEEN? (JWitness Forum)

(A 45 minute VIDEO by the History Channel titled "The Haunted History of Halloween" can be seen by clicking here.)

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2012, 10:58:39 pm »
"Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Halloween" cut & paste

Those aren't "reasons", (that is, based upon logical premises); instead, they are a laundry list of self-righteous, pretentious and narrowly-faith-based specious religious beliefs which don't even have a passing aquaintance with rational thought processes.  They do however, emphasize the inherent intolerance of a xtian cult for any other religious belief.  It's no wonder that cult is banned in several countries already.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2012, 11:10:45 pm »
Well if Jesus 's words are are to be fulfilled then this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations......So banning us will not stop it ...(Acts 5:27-32) . . .So they brought them and stood them in the San′he‧drin hall. And the high priest questioned them 28 and said: “We positively ordered YOU not to keep teaching upon the basis of this name, and yet, look! YOU have filled Jerusalem with YOUR teaching, and YOU are determined to bring the blood of this man upon us.” 29 In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. 30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom YOU slew, hanging him upon a stake. 31 God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his right hand, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are witnesses of these matters, and so is the holy spirit, which God has given to those obeying him as ruler.”

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2012, 11:14:17 pm »
Such banning is intended as a prophylactic, (preventive measure).  Stopping the spread of a brain washing cult usually requires firmer measures.

Well if Jesus 's words are are to be fulfilled then this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations......So banning us will not stop it ...
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2012, 11:23:56 pm »
It's already been stated that holidays such as Christmas, New Years, Easter, and May Day were based on pagan holidays.  If you don't have a problem celebrating those, then why have a problem with Halloween?  Let your kid celebrate. 

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2012, 11:26:53 pm »
War....i didnt make the rules

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2012, 11:43:20 pm »
It's already been stated that holidays such as Christmas, New Years, Easter, and May Day were based on pagan holidays.  If you don't have a problem celebrating those, then why have a problem with Halloween?  Let your kid celebrate. 

A valid point, (unless you're a religious fundamentalist).
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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2012, 12:02:24 am »
I hate all holidays to be honest. They have all become very commercialized!! I just try to make all holidays special for the kids and try to bring out the good in them any way that I can. If it wasn't for the kids I wouldn't celebrate any holiday!! (even Christmas) As for Halloween.... it is just about the costumes and the candy. I never look forward to it that's for sure! It's just another day to me.

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2012, 08:22:06 am »
Everyone needs to lighten up and stop taking life so seriously! Let your children dress up for Halloween, enjoy life and find any reason in the world to celebrate. People quoting the bible on this subject...seriously? Just as statisticians can twist results in any direction so are the interpreters of the bible. Anyone can disseminate the roots of every celebrated Holiday and make it into something awful...why waste the time? Do people not have more important things to do with their lives?  Imposing this wretched research related to the roots of a holiday is a tragedy.

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2012, 01:26:52 pm »
Tresbn....i am not sure if you are a parent....but im sure if you had a child that went trick or treating and got poisoned youd sing a different tune about halloween.

Try reading Rev 4:11 in the bible and get a viewpoint when the Creator gives us His rules why we should obey Him.Isnt the state of the world enuff indigation that its screwed up because of its alienation from our creator?

At the same time God created us with freewill and forces no one to obey him....He just tells us whats right for our own good and lives.

And Jehovah exacts EXCLUSIVE devotion about being the TRUE God.There are NO other gods before Him.So if taking part in a relgeous activity that started in Babylon where false religeon started we are disobeying Him.And all you have to do is follow history in bible when man dis-obeyed.They reaped what they sowed and were punished for it.

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2012, 01:34:01 pm »
Case & point

Halloween Deaths: Satanic Ritual Murders
or Natural Causes?

By Robert Howard

This is one of the most important dates on the Satanic calendar.
 THE CELEBRATION OF DEATH

According to the Satanic Calendar Halloween, October 31st is a night for Human sacrifice. (31  All hallow's Eve (Halloween):  One of the two most important nights of the year.  Attempts are made to break the bond which is keeping the doors to the underworld closed.  Blood and sexual rituals.  Sexual association with demons. Animal and human sacrifice -  male or female.)

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Re: Holloween Or Not? For Christians :)
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2012, 05:25:02 pm »
Christians never practice what they preach. As far as I know they have always celebrated halloween. I know they did at all of the church " I WENT TO " and the churches that I know of.

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