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Falconer02

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2013, 11:49:12 am »
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uh.... my point is i have nothing against gay people... i loved my uncle and cousin it is more common for gays tho...Thank the monkeys for the problem.

Well yes it is factual that it's more common in male homosexuals, but this is primarily because they don't use any forms of contraception (obviously).

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Did u read this post too? mr falconer02?

I imagine I did, but I was just concentrating on your most recent post. I'm glad you quoted your previous post though!

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What do u have against christians? hmmmmm....

A lot. Well...it's not necessarily the individuals, but the belief system as a whole that they adhere to. Cuppycake summed it up pretty well-

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Projecting your illogical, antiquated, and unfounded view points based on an imaginary friend is infuriating !

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2013, 05:19:52 pm »
Thats what makes it very difficult for me to follow every christianity group to the T. Becasue yes, in the bible it says that it is an abomination, but it aslo says that eating certain foods or animals are an abomination and we do it everyday. But the Christian commun ity focuses more over the debate of Homosexulaity. I've met so many evil spiteful hypocritical so called christians throughout my life. I feel like they are having relationships regardless or not we think its right or wrong. If someone wants to get married, at least they have enough respect for their partner to dedicate to them. Because even in the heterosexual world today, marraige is not always what everyone wants. At least someone wants to get married.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2013, 12:04:22 pm »
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I've met so many evil spiteful hypocritical so called christians throughout my life.

I can almost guarantee you some of those have been on this forum.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2013, 08:28:17 pm »
That's why we have a separation of church and state. If your faith holds that homosexuality is a sin, then your church just won't allow / acknowledge homosexual marriages. But this has nothing to do with whether the state accepts homosexual marriage. If the state feels that it want to define the union of two people as being a marriage regardless of their sexual orientation, then it has the right to do so. However that separation of church and state goes both ways... This means that the state should not force churches to perform / sanction homosexual marriages either.

There is a picture going around FB that basically states how I feel... It shows a picture of an ascetic Jew and the caption reads "He doesn't believe in eating pork... But he isn't forcing me to stop eating bacon!"

I agree! Well said. Nice example, btw!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2013, 10:48:14 am »
God loves everyone, sinner too... who am I to say that something is wrong when God forgives us for whatever we do...

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2013, 03:59:02 pm »
It is not my choice to make. It is God's choice since he made up the rules. So as long as God isn't interfering I will just stay out of it. As long as they are nice people that is all that matters to me.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2013, 11:21:55 am »
thats interesting being friends with gays but against their marriage, personnally i think its awesome but thats me an all.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #82 on: December 28, 2013, 07:56:39 am »
I hope that this train will crash soon, but right now it is on autopilot....

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2013, 08:56:09 am »
Question do Gay people believe in religion? If so what God do they believe in? I am just curious. No harm just a question.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2013, 08:58:42 am »
too scary to know about this all :(

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #85 on: December 28, 2013, 09:59:18 am »
I agree blacksheepny, Im glad im not GOD judgement day..... 8)
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #86 on: December 28, 2013, 04:57:12 pm »
We believe that the practice of homosexual acts, is unnatural and against God's law as laid out in the Bible. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

But we also understand that all humans are imperfect, we have all inherited sin from Adam and Eve, and the tendancy to have homosexual thoughts and inclinations may be another aspect of our imperfection. It is no different then, than any sin a person must fight against. Some of us heterosexual people may have tendancies we have to fight against too, Some may be tempted to commit adultery, or to sleep with someone they haven't married. Some may have to fight a desire to view pornography, or to drink too much or many other bad and sinful habits.

The person who is tempted by something, isn't a bad person, they are a sinner, the same as we all are. It is the person who acts on their temptations that has to work harder to fight against committing a sin.

So to answer your question? We have some brothers or sisters within our congregations who have homosexual tendancies (but who are not practicing homosexual acts). We do not view them as bad people. They may be willing to tell you that they feel "different" inherently. But they are willing to wait on Jehovah to correct any sinful tendancies they may have.

We don't teach hatred or disrespect of any individual. We do believe that each of us is responsible for our own actions, and that God has clearly taught in the Bible what actions are acceptable and what actions are sinful. We try and avoid sinning against Jehovah.

I know many in the world tell you that a person is "born" homosexual. This may be true. A person may be born blind too. Or may be born missing fingers or have some other physical imperfection. Or for whatever reason a person may have a strong inclination to want to have sex with children. Feeling this way, does NOT excuse acting on it. A person may have serious feelings of anger, and they may feel inclined to act on that anger, they may even want to kill someone. Feeling that way, doesn't excuse acting upon it.

God expects us to obey him and to avoid acting on sinful thoughts.

But we don't hate people. We love and respect all people. We know that they and we, all have our own sinful inclinations we are tempted to act upon "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".

They (because they have these feelings) are no worse than we who have feelings that make us want to commit other sins. But the Bible clearly states that homosexual acts are condemned and those who practice them (the same as those who practice fornication or adultery) are sinning against God.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #87 on: December 28, 2013, 09:39:19 pm »
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But we also understand that all humans are imperfect

Homosexuality is not an imperfection. It is simply a difference from the norm.

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We don't teach hatred or disrespect of any individual.

This is laughably false. Jehovah's Witnesses are actually some of the most hateful and disrespectful people I've known. The fact that this religion uses childish shunning and bullying tactics on people is proof enough. The fact that they use such ideals rather than simple loving routes in dealing with problems is the sign of a bad group of people.

...but I'm sure you're just going to push your face into one of your Watchtower magazines and completely ignore the fact I've stated rather than argue like an actual human being.

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But the Bible clearly states that homosexual acts are condemned and those who practice them (the same as those who practice fornication or adultery) are sinning against God.

So you're preaching homosexuality as being the same as adultery and fornication? You are a sick, awful, misguided, and uneducated person. Have a nice day.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2013, 10:15:03 am »
So basically we are all born sinners.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #89 on: December 29, 2013, 02:33:52 pm »
Romans 5:12

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Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

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