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sak4kat

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2016, 12:21:06 pm »
I do not believe in evolution either.  The first answer given in this forum is exactly how I feel.  All questions answered in the Bible - and it all goes back to Genesis.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2016, 01:25:54 pm »
Human Beings are the result of a long process of evolution.  Period.  The rest is fairy tales.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2016, 01:31:02 pm »
Evolution is a fact. That doesn't mean we evolved from apes either.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2016, 02:31:57 pm »
Evolution is a fact. That doesn't mean we evolved from apes either.

Playing both ends against the middle.Doesnt wanna give God credit but give evolution credit for man being evolved in Gods image!!!Not being compared to an ape!!!LOL!!Gotta love it!!

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2016, 02:33:44 pm »
Human Beings are the result of a long process of evolution.  Period.  The rest is fairy tales.

So then evolution must be responsible for the fairy tales!!!LOL!!

BTW..i didnt know fairy tales could be responsible to have such an effect to change the calendar as Jesus did.Not even gonna get into the history of the bible as in countries,world powers etc that much proof was left behind!!
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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2016, 02:44:26 pm »
Evolution is a fact. That doesn't mean we evolved from apes either.

Playing both ends against the middle.Doesnt wanna give God credit but give evolution credit for man being evolved in Gods image!!!Not being compared to an ape!!!LOL!!Gotta love it!!

Evolution is change in the heritable traits of biological populations over successive generations. That is an incontrovertible fact. I didn't give credit for anything. You think evolution means a heck of lot more than it actually does.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2016, 04:36:42 pm »
I would agree in the concept of "micro evolution" (minor evolution within species) just not "macro evolution". (No major changes such as apes evolving into humans, etc)

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2016, 04:53:12 pm »
NO!!


King James Bible
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Gen 1:1

New International Version
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."Gen 1:26

Amen. I totally agree.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2016, 10:19:20 am »
Absolutely not! There is a reason why we are here and that reason came from God.
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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2016, 01:14:08 pm »
I realize most people are still responding to the OP and not really looking at the different ideas from other responders, but the question I would ask to ALL who have an opinion one way or the other, isn't it possible for both theories of evolution AND creation to co-exist?


I am a 100% full believer in God and Jesus Christ and cannot wait to be reunited with many of my loved ones in the afterlife provided that I am worthy to enter into Heaven.  But I am also a firm believer that dinosaurs roamed the Earth millions of years ago and that we all evolved in some fashion from some earlier primates, whether that be apes or earlier bipedal humans or whatever.


So I guess what I am saying/asking = isn't it possible that God created the universe and all of the stars and planets and also designed evolution as a part of that creative process?  Evolution and Creation do not have to be mutually exclusive.

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2016, 05:13:54 pm »
I realize most people are still responding to the OP and not really looking at the different ideas from other responders, but the question I would ask to ALL who have an opinion one way or the other, isn't it possible for both theories of evolution AND creation to co-exist?


I am a 100% full believer in God and Jesus Christ and cannot wait to be reunited with many of my loved ones in the afterlife provided that I am worthy to enter into Heaven.  But I am also a firm believer that dinosaurs roamed the Earth millions of years ago and that we all evolved in some fashion from some earlier primates, whether that be apes or earlier bipedal humans or whatever.


So I guess what I am saying/asking = isn't it possible that God created the universe and all of the stars and planets and also designed evolution as a part of that creative process?  Evolution and Creation do not have to be mutually exclusive.
So if you support God and Jesus i would think u support bible?And if you do then it tells us man was directly created by God and Jesus!!Let US make man in Gods image at Genesis 1:26 Formed from dust and God blew the breath of life into him.Bible says man is wonderfully made.

Most that dont wanna give a loving intelligent spirit for the credit just dont wanna be accountable to HIM!Satan has blinded many including creation!

God didnt tell Adam at death there would be an afterlife.He told him he would go back to dust.Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping before he resurrected him.This backs up "the dead are conscience of nothing".Eccl 9:5

But Jesus promised there would be a resurrection of righteous and unrighteous during his 1000 yr kingdom rule after Armagheddon!Acts 24:15
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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2016, 01:38:41 pm »
I agree with UGetPaid.... I see the Bible as saying what happened and science to say how it happened. According to Genesis, the acts of creation took place in a week, with separate acts occurring in different days. Yet if the world nor any of the stars were in existence at the beginning, then the term "day" is absolutely meaningless (even moreso if you consider that the universe has billions of planets each with their own "Sun" and different rates of rotation making a "day" variable unit of measure). If God is omniscient and omnipotent, then it stands to reason that God would have known at the beginning how to create an on-going process to create humans with a plethora of different traits, such as evolution.

Discarding the theory of evolution also adds credence to God being mean, indifferent, and / or fallible. We know that there are genetic abnormalities and genetic disorders. If God created humans "from scratch" so-to-speak, then God must have incorporated those genetic conditions in humans as well. Either God did so purposely but didn't care that it would hurt humans (ie God is indifferent), God did so purposely in order to punish humans (ie God is mean), or God did so accidentally (ie God is fallible). Considering that God made male humans first (according to Genesis), then saw that man was unhappy, and so created woman later, I'm more inclined to believe that the god in the literal Bible is both fallible and not omniscient....

If on the other hand you believe that God created the evolutionary process in order to create humans, then the genetic issues can be seen as being "good". The process of evolution utilizes mutations and other genetic changes to add variety to the species' genetic makeup. Although some of these mutations may lead to the individual organism suffering, having the variety in the genetic code can also lead to another organism (of that same species) to develop an advantage in its survival. Sickle cell anemia is a genetic disorder that causes red blood cells to become deformed under certain conditions which causes them not to function correctly leading to the anemia (the inability for the red blood cells to carry oxygen as effectively). The disease is a recessive trait that only occurs when a person has the same mutation from both of their parents. Although the disease leads to many issues such as pain attacks, anemia, infection, and even strokes, it also is a very effective natural preventative to developing malaria. When the organism responsible for malaria tries to infect red blood cells (as a part of its normal life-cycle), the red blood cells will "sickle" / deform causing those blood cells to rupture and die before the organism has finished growing thus preventing it from spreading throughout the host. Additionally, people that have the sickle cell trait from only one of their parents also maintain an advantage in resisting malarial infection while at the same time experiencing few (if any) of the signs / symptoms of sickle-cell disease. As the mortality and morbidity rates are worse for malaria than sickle-cell disease, the sickle-cell trait can be seen as being "good" as a natural resistance to the more "bad" disease of malaria. Also since there are several variations of the sickle-cell gene (different mutations cause the same or very similar trait to be expressed) being found at different levels around the world, it has been taken as evidence of an evolutionary process that is occurring in humans (ie God would not create different mutations for the same trait had God introduced the genetic condition when first creating humans).

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2016, 02:53:36 pm »
Psalm 90:94 New International Version
A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.


Romans 5 :12 New International Version
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--

Romans 6:23 New International Version
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Fooish to support just part of the bible

To explain furthur,If Jehovah is the Alpha and the Omega it stands to reason the creative days should NOT be based on how man views them.Adam died at 930 Yrs old.He died in Gods view what his day was comparing it to 1000 of ours.A creative day was even longer.Bible backs it up.

If God was to blame for man growing old and dying there would have been NO need for Jesus coming to earth and ransoming his perfect life for one Adam threw away.Bible backs it up!!

Definition of sin

Definition: Literally, a missing of the mark, according to the Hebrew and Greek Bible texts. God himself sets the “mark” that his intelligent creatures are to reach. Missing that mark is sin, which is also unrighteousness, or lawlessness. (Rom. 3:23; 1 John 5:17; 3:4) Sin is anything not in harmony with God’s personality, standards, ways, and will, all of which are holy. It may involve wrong conduct, failure to do what should be done, ungodly speech, unclean thoughts, or desires or motives that are selfish. The Bible differentiates between inherited sin and willful sin, between an act of sin over which a person is repentant and the practice of sin.
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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2016, 03:04:17 pm »
Micro-evolution, yes.... Macro-evolution, no.

Micro has to do with a species slowly changing from generation to generation in their DNA.

Macro says I literally formed over billions of years from stardust. Nope, it takes more faith to think that than believe in God. And I used to be an atheist, and it was because "science was so true."

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Re: Do You Believe in Evolution?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2016, 06:27:10 pm »
Evolution is a process by which something passes through to a different stage, since Charles Darwin's theory evolution seems to have discovered the word limit. No, I'm a firm believer in creation.
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