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liljp617

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2009, 09:40:00 am »
I agree with God in our Public Schools. I think our society has taken out of school and life in general those things that were sacred. Look at where we are NOW :dontknow:

Where exactly are we?  I think we're doing just fine, although there's obviously room for improvement.  We're certainly doing better than we have for much of history...ironically this improvement has coincided with increasingly secular societies and increasingly secular governments.

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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2009, 12:19:56 pm »
thats a touchy subject... but i believe that God shouldnt be removed from the school... i mean He gave us this blessing of getting educated why take him out.

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2009, 12:36:53 pm »
i am a christian and i believe everyone needs God
HOWEVER
i dont think it should be forced on people

in school there are usually a lot of religons at least covered in history class and government classes when i was in school we had to pick a religon and do an oral report on it
i think christianity should be taught along with other religons but not so much forced on ppl as in praying together in school or so forth
if individuals want to pray quietly or read their bible during study halls or quiet times in class i think this is perfectly fine i also think its alright to witness to ppl in school as long as your not shoving it down their throat

God is evidnet and talked about a lot outside of school and everyone will face him someday

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2009, 02:31:09 pm »
You all know there is such a thing as Sunday school, maybe you should send your kids there. That way you wont complain about the public schools not teaching about YOUR god. As many have posted I think most of the parents on here would be very angry when your kids come home saying there is more beliefs than just yours and other gods than just yours.

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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 03:43:35 pm »
thats a touchy subject... but i believe that God shouldnt be removed from the school... i mean He gave us this blessing of getting educated why take him out.

That is faith based belief, and one without any backing whatsoever, by definition.  That is the precise reason it should be left out.

Would you approve of schools teaching that Allah is the one and only creator?  Would you approve of schools teaching students to pray to and have faith in the millions of other gods/goddesses that have been proposed throughout history?  Would you approve of schools teaching belief in ANY other religion or deity except your own?  Would you approve of your kids having designated times throughout the day where they must drop what they're learning, get on their hands and knees facing Mecca, and pray to Allah?


If you answer "no" to ANY of these questions, then you see the purpose in keeping public education settings secular.  If you answer "yes" to any of these questions, how much time out of a 6-7 hour school day do you honestly think is going to be spent teaching your kids what they need to know to actually help them achieve higher education and become an active citizen?

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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2009, 03:45:22 pm »
thats a touchy subject... but i believe that God shouldnt be removed from the school... i mean He gave us this blessing of getting educated why take him out.

That is faith based belief, and one without any backing whatsoever, by definition.  That is the precise reason it should be left out.

Would you approve of schools teaching that Allah is the one and only creator?  Would you approve of schools teaching students to pray to and have faith in the millions of other gods/goddesses that have been proposed throughout history?  Would you approve of schools teaching belief in ANY other religion or deity except your own?  Would you approve of your kids having designated times throughout the day where they must drop what they're learning, get on their hands and knees facing Mecca, and pray to Allah?


If you answer "no" to ANY of these questions, then you see the purpose in keeping public education settings secular.  If you answer "yes" to any of these questions, how much time out of a 6-7 hour school day do you honestly think is going to be spent teaching your kids what they need to know to actually help them achieve higher education and become an active citizen?

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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2009, 03:46:26 pm »
You all know there is such a thing as Sunday school, maybe you should send your kids there. That way you wont complain about the public schools not teaching about YOUR god. As many have posted I think most of the parents on here would be very angry when your kids come home saying there is more beliefs than just yours and other gods than just yours.

"Don't pray in my schools.  I won't think in your church."

Always easier to say that :D

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« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2009, 03:58:42 pm »
Again, it would be a very bad thing to do. Many people have different beliefs and christianity is just one of tens of thousands. America is great because we are such a diverse group of people and within the diversity lies separate religious beliefs. Teaching a 'dominant religion' in public schools is a real slap to the face to anyone not believing in a jewish zombie who said he was somehow god and gods son.

I'm sure this was written somewhere (if not in this thread then in another), but what if this thread was titled "Allah in our Public Schools" and people were pushing public schools to teach about the Qur'an and Muhammad? You christians would go postal. Why? Because it's wrong-- it's not your cup of tea and you don't believe it. But every ignorant muslim around you is going " ;D ;DWELL IT NEEDS TO BE EVERYWHERE ESPECIALLY IN OUR SCHOOLZ!!! ;D ;D" Well congratulations because now you've broadened your viewpoint. Us agnostics, atheists, pagans, etc. don't believe in your god. Many people don't believe in Christianity and telling people it needs to be taught in public schools is beyond rude and ignorant.

By saying it does need to be taught in schools, you're only hurting the image of your religion. And with all respect, that's what is murdering Christianity in this country. So great job to anyone saying it does need to be taught.

EDIT: Weird...liljp just posted practically the same thing as I did at the same time! WOAH!

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2009, 05:31:35 pm »
Again, it would be a very bad thing to do. Many people have different beliefs and christianity is just one of tens of thousands. America is great because we are such a diverse group of people and within the diversity lies separate religious beliefs. Teaching a 'dominant religion' in public schools is a real slap to the face to anyone not believing in a jewish zombie who said he was somehow god and gods son.

I'm sure this was written somewhere (if not in this thread then in another), but what if this thread was titled "Allah in our Public Schools" and people were pushing public schools to teach about the Qur'an and Muhammad? You christians would go postal. Why? Because it's wrong-- it's not your cup of tea and you don't believe it. But every ignorant muslim around you is going " ;D ;DWELL IT NEEDS TO BE EVERYWHERE ESPECIALLY IN OUR SCHOOLZ!!! ;D ;D" Well congratulations because now you've broadened your viewpoint. Us agnostics, atheists, pagans, etc. don't believe in your god. Many people don't believe in Christianity and telling people it needs to be taught in public schools is beyond rude and ignorant.

By saying it does need to be taught in schools, you're only hurting the image of your religion. And with all respect, that's what is murdering Christianity in this country. So great job to anyone saying it does need to be taught.

An excellent post.  However, there's only one problem with it.

All the Christians will ignore it.  They might read it, sure, but they won't be swayed.  They are so stuck in their ways that they will never be able to open their minds to the fact that there ARE other religions out there, and they all deserve fair treatment.

Us Atheists/Agnostics don't hate Christians because of their beliefs.  We hate them (Note that I should say SOME of them) because of their lack of tolerance for other religions.

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2009, 05:55:44 pm »
First of all we would not even be here if god did not exist! So why would we take God away from our children? it is bad enough that most people don't even teach their children about God at home so they need to hear his name from somewhere. No i do not believe that they should exempt God from the schools or anywhere else.
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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2009, 06:05:00 pm »
God is soo "great and wonderful" that he lets sweet innocent children like Noah Biorkman die every day.

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2009, 06:34:00 pm »



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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2009, 11:23:34 am »
I am definitely not closed minded, I did not grow up in the church, I grew up always looking for the party, that is how unclosed minded I am. I ran and did what I wanted, till it hit me square in the face. I had a decision to make, now closed minded, I am not, I seen the bad side, now I see the good, praise God, I would not even be here today, I would be dead, where I sat in ICU, or my husband, I would still be living it up or dead like half of my friends. Closed minded, not me. I been there. Thank God for coming into my life and giving me a second chance.

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2009, 02:08:22 pm »
The Constitution forbids Congress from making any laws regarding the establishment of religion. Putting "In God We Trust" on the money is not establishing a religion, nor is it infringing on the free exercise of anyone's religion. The first amendment was not intended to mean that there could be no public profession of anything that could even be remotely considered religion. That is what you get in a Communist country, where everyone has to hide their religion, which is considered the "opium of the people."

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Re: God in our Public Schools
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2009, 04:33:45 pm »
It was just in 1978 that the indigenous of this country were allowed the right to practice our Spirituality, before then we had to have our Ceremonies in secret and hide our Spiritual items. Even today the only Natives allowed to "legally" posses some of our Spiritual items are the few that the federal gov. decides they recognise, others are lawfully denied our right to participate in some Ceremonies.

So since we are forced to hide our traditions for fear of arrest, fines and imprisonment.....does this mean the U.S. is a communist country?

Sorry your argument doesn't wash.

Freedom of religion????...yeah right.

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