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Debate & Discuss / Re: Legalization of marijuana
« on: May 23, 2014, 09:38:35 pm »Message ID: 882860
The overdose argument is poor because you are not actually arguing against the law. People overdosing isn't the reason why it became illegal, which makes the overdose argument a strawman. You're also employing selective logic if want to make the case that it is harmless and no one has been killed based on no one overdosing.
then what is the reason why it was made illegal?

Political and business corruption mostly. Racism and ignorance played a roll too. A quick google search can easily answer this question, but it's mind boggling why we haven't legalized it yet considering the stupid reasons of why it was made illegal in the first place.

http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Legalization of marijuana
« on: May 19, 2014, 08:50:28 pm »Message ID: 881716
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Just looking for who supports and who doesn't and reasoning as to why you feel how you do!

You have a plant that has been around and used for tens of thousands of years, and then suddenly 60+ years ago you have some rich white conservatives who don't want their profit margins in the paper industry to plummet, so they campaign against it using racism, pseudoscience, and general fearmongering to get it banned. It gets banned over stupid reasons, and till this day continues to ruin lives due to the unjust laws. Any simple research can show there are more pros than cons with pot. Quite frankly if you don't support the legalization of it politically, you're a blind sheep.

I don't see anything good coming from legalizing pot. MAYBE it will allow the police to better direct their efforts on more serious crime matters. That is about all I can think of that might be a benefit.

On the other side of the coin, I have seen to many lives totally screwed up by the use of pot. Straight A college classmates getting into it, losing all ambition to do anything other than smoke, flunk out and who knows where their life has ended up. Alcohol ruins lives too, but pot seems to start that downward spiral for people at much earlier ages. I have never known anyone that was a success in life that used pot, period. However I have known quite a few that THINK they were doing great while everyone around them could see how obviously screwed up their life was.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/03/11/its-no-toke-colorado-pulls-in-millions-in-marijuana-tax-revenue/

If the system were run 100% efficiently, you'd right about the cop thing. But that's actually a major reason it's still illegal. Profit margins for privately-owned prison systems. Why legalize something when you can make more money catching smokers and ruining people's lives? Portugal legalized pot, and within a few years they had to close a few jails.
This same thing happened to a friend of mine. He got caught buying and $15,000 later, he avoided a felony charge on his record. That's pretty screwed up, right?

I know plenty of users who one would deem successful. They're happily married, have good (but stressful) jobs, have kids, and are very social people. I (very occasionally) smoke it, and I'm doing very pretty well myself (60k/yr, hard job = why I'm not on FC as much anymore). I'm not saying the lazy stereotype does not exist- I've seen plenty of them. But I don't blame it on the drug. That's like blaming Doritos on a fat out-of-shape person with a poor diet. It's the person's lack of ambition and poor environment that causes him to pig out. Pot can be one reason why they're lazy, but blaming it on pot useage is mainly a scapegoat argument.

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i have a son who smoked lots of weed and eventually started doing harder drugs and all i can say much consequence followed.......

Sorry to hear that. Case-by-case position though- you got dealt a bad hand. The vast majority of my friends who have smoked pot haven't done anything 'harder' than it. I'm more worried about their drinking habits.

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How many people today do you think may have started playing a penny slot machine......and now are $1000s of dollars in debt

But slot machines are still legal despite the people with addictions to gambling. You don't ban something just because a handful of people are idiots with it. That makes for an irrational, unjust, and toothless society bent on putting padding over everything. The key point I'm trying to make in this whole post is it's an individuals responsibility to be responsible with such things. Alcohol is without a doubt much worse for someone, yet it has been legal for far longer. Am I justifying the use of it? Politically/legally? YES. Individually? Again, it's a case-by-case situation.

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Math 24: 36-44

Out of ammo I see. Continue with your delusions.

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Exodus 9 :16

Anytime, man. Anytime. As long as you keep advertising it, I will continue to let people know the truths of this terrible organization. Enjoy your dwindling cult.

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Falconer,thank you very much for your indirect help on helping The Memorial be witnessed about on April 14th.I know you didnt mean to help out...but isnt it amazing how God works?How he can take a fool as yourself and turn it into a positive for HIS will be done.

Just because I talk about some phony JW party does not mean I'm advertising it in your favor. It's like talking about 9/11 and what a tragedy it was and you saying I'm indirectly helping the terrorists by doing so. If that's how you think your god works, you worship a god with the mind of a child. But...I'll play your game here-

To anyone who reads this, I highly recommend you go to the JW Memorial talk. If you have a decent sense of spotting phony behavior, false motives, corrupted and brainwashed people, and generally negative traits of any type, prepare to be blinded by it at this event. It's truly a phenomenal thing to see. I would also recommend paying attention to the age groups present as well.

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Id like to also address your silly comment on who attends The Memorial whether it be 1st comers or baptized xtians.Does it matter?A journey begins with a first step for those 1st coming...their lives are just as important as anyone else.

It does matter when your numbers are dwindling. If a church only highlights their attendance on Xmas and not any other parts of the year, then keeps speaking of how large their attendance was on that one event and no others, it's showing a major insecurity within the church.

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If you are going to keep stats,try keeping the stat how many silly statements you make.When you have realized you made enough of them please accept your diploma for the human race.

I'm only quoting well known statistics about your specific religion. If you choose to ignore them, that is your right. However your religion is dying out due to a lot of immoral and outdated practices. A lack of change means death. I know you're not one to focus on the reality of an issue, but your attempts to shake off the truth and replace it with cherry-picked ideas are obvious.

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Falconer....if you cant discern a worldwide brotherhood is telling the world about a book that has been around 1000s of years and translated into 100s of languages....predicted the future to prove its divine etc.......

The bible did not predict the future. We've been over this numerous times now.

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Dont tell me you are working on a clean energy project!!I hope its far away from where i live!!!

You don't want cheaper and less hazardous energy sources? It will make life better and easier for every--oh wait. I forgot I'm talking to person who's religion is based off of hypocritically bashing human progress.

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And there were over 20 million people that observed The Lords Memorial <evening meal> last year.That number goes up every year cos sheep-like ones see the conditions on the earth eroding away like never before and realize the only salvation for this planet is Gods Kingdom. April 14 after sundown this year to those that would like to attend The Memorial...... a command Jesus gave to his apostles to observe every year cos of the ransom of his death.

JW numbers are declining-- especially in first world countries. They also tend to make up their own statistics. A simple search can show you that.  Why are you only highlighting the large event where tons of non-JWs attend as well? You just want to cherry-pick your bits of information because real statistics are from satan, right? Sometimes the truth hurts.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Do You Really WANT a Longer Life if It Means You Have to Be a Vegetarian?
« on: March 04, 2014, 02:52:02 am »Message ID: 857561
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ERRRRR...EHH....duh.....i think you should scroll up and see it was you who brought up cult,religeon etc when i spoke of disease and famine in this world....then you scold me for getting off topic?Yes i use my own research to back up what i say just like you use your science & stats BS!!!

Your first post = you immediately went to the bible to try to pass some of your cult-like mentalities onto others, so you were the one who introduced it. Ancmetro's post was in response to it as well. And that science and stat "BS" has disproved your claims 100% of the time in the past.

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Did you know fish is good brain food? You should hunt for a whale!! Maybe you might come across Jonah!

**Insert equal 3rd-Grader retort here**

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I am not insulting you.You dig yourself deeper in the frustration of trying to convince yourself of Gods existence and laws.

I'm fairly certain your god is fictional. But you are incapable of reasoning, so you are lost when it comes to discussing things rationally.

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Listen why dont you just make it easier on yourself and say,I dont agree with Gods laws,arrangments etc.He gave you freedom of choice.I dont have a problem if you dont agree with bible etc.You are the one doing the insulting calling me and Gods organization stupid which only shows what a frustrated person you are.

I don't agree with your ancient concept of a god. Other gods? Sure. There are some pretty cool concepts out there. Some are great ideas, others are worse than your own. Your organization is run by false prophets, liars, cultists, and thieves (not only monetarily though). The only thing that frustrates me is that it's not dying out as fast as I'd prefer.

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When i use a bible post to back up a topic i mean well.We all know whether you agree with it or not ...YOU ARENT GOING TO!!Are you that bored or frustrated that you have to keep reminding us all how you feel?

The bolded sentence is an oxymoron statement. You are using a source that is easily falsified (most of the time), so continuing to use it is not a good method to go about spreading rational information. But since it is all you know, it is not hard to understand why you don't care to learn other things. I wish you could break from the cult mentality so we could discuss things on an actual realistic foundation.

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Go play with your science books and statistics!!

I did all day actually. Worked with a civil engineer on a clean energy concept. It's good to know I'm actually doing something that may actually benefit the world, y'know? But forget that...let's paint the gov't as corrupted and evil, refuse to further my education in favor of spreading ancient romantic stories, and walk around and annoy people with my preferred version of the bible. That seems like a much better use of one's time.

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You are a perfect example of an un-grateful,selfish person of why you are alive.

If you're going to attempt to insult me, please proof read your sentences. This makes no sense. Also, you call me selfish and yet you're the one who attempts to hijack threads and turn them into bible discussions. This post could be about toys made in the 1990's and I'm sure you'd quote the old testament or something.

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but it shows just how GREAT Jehovah is,to be able to create a person and have that person choose whether to love and obey HIM or not on their own.

"I can't argue with him because I lack the skill, so I'll just tell him that god did everything!". Childish, really.

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You exercise NOT to as many have sided with Satans claim.

Again, proof read before you hit submit.

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But there are many that appreciate Rev 4:11 and the gift of life tHAT DOES COME WITH CONDITIONS!!

An omniscient entity requires conditions to get a gift? Lame.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Do You Really WANT a Longer Life if It Means You Have to Be a Vegetarian?
« on: March 02, 2014, 01:56:20 pm »Message ID: 856975
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. An atheism is here depicted which goes beyond even that of Psalm 10. There the existence of God was not so much denied as his providence. Here his existence is not only denied, but denied in the very depths of the man's heart. He has contrived to convince himself of what he so much wishes. The psalmist regards such a state of mind as indicative of that utter perversity and folly which is implied in the term nabal (נָבַל). They are corrupt; literally

Only corrupted to a narrow-minded individual. This is a cult mentality you speak of. Congratulations. Let's get back to talking about vegetarians and avoid more of your pointless thread hijacks.

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The rightful sovereign of the universe is NOT responsible for all the crap that goes on here...yes he has allowed it with good reason to prove rebellion against HIM doesnt work and in HIS due time will correct it and it will never again have to happen again if called into question!!

Your oxymoron statement is quite obvious. And even then, the logic your god uses is pretentious, prideful, childish, and uncaring. I really hope you are not a parent if you think such behavior is acceptable.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Do You Really WANT a Longer Life if It Means You Have to Be a Vegetarian?
« on: March 02, 2014, 02:11:00 am »Message ID: 856700
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But isn't there something missing in your life if you can't triumphantly dine on roast-beast?

I would say yes. I've known vegetarians who had to go to doctors and find that they are having many problems due to their lack of a normal diet. We evolved eating meat and it's just common knowledge that all of nature has a food chain. Even if you get your protein intake from supplements and such, I just think you're missing out on some great food. I do understand the humane side of it though.

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Yes...go by scientific research where disease and pestilence is so widespread in spite of advances!! Maybe they used some of those moon rocks for brains!!

Do you know how awful the past was before modern sciences? Especially in the field of farming? I'd tell you to do some research and see just how dependent we are on food produced by sciences, but you are a stupid person who belongs to a church that produces extremely stupid people, so there's no reason to even bother. Just continue with your foolish and delusional garbage.

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Even if it were true that vegetarians live longer, they surely don't enjoy their meals nearly as much as the rest of us.

I completely agree.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: False Prophets
« on: February 19, 2014, 06:58:39 pm »Message ID: 852553
A quote that is completely foreign to religious idiots.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: What Should Oklahoma Do about its Crowded Prisons?
« on: February 18, 2014, 02:35:11 pm »Message ID: 852273
Legalize pot. Too many people are in the slammer for a harmless act. You'd probably free up a ton of space.

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Am I Trying to Free God from Human Understanding or Trying to Kick God Out?
« on: February 18, 2014, 02:26:36 pm »Message ID: 852269
Well if you believe this god ascends above reality as we know it, this god probably already knows all of our choices, so choice is an illusion that we believe to be free. And if we have such limited understanding, it's ludicrous to think that such primitive things as the bible are inspired by such a being. Do you honestly believe such an inter-dimensional being would bother with such trivial things as "Don't eat meat on this specific day" or go on a genocidal rage because a group of lesser beings weren't being decent to each other? Why would this being lock his lesser-creations in a cage that works against them constantly (for instance 99.9999999% of our universe would kill us within seconds)?

To act like one has all the answers w/o actual evidence is ridiculous and delusional behavior. But you're speculating and you're questioning things. That's a good thing! It sounds like you're slowly taking the path of becoming an agnostic-theist rather than a pure theist/bible fundamentalist.

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