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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:48:05 pm »Message ID: 1329297
Another question (and who knows- I may have asked it during my uninterrupted decade of proving the Watchtower false)

If the name "Jehovah" is as important as the JWs insist it is, and if Jesus is not equal to the Father as the Watchtower suggests- why then Phil 2:10 says "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth," I thought Jehovah was God's name? Why then will every knee bow to the name of Jesus?

(I can already smell the Watchtower tract hitch has coming up, which will display the same tired excuse they have every time Jesus is shown in the bible being worshiped as God- 'He's only accepting it on God's behalf.'  Well, let's cut to the chase and let me already remind you, Peter, Paul and the Angels all came in God's behalf and refused worship!)

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Support / Re: Has hitch been banned....again....yet?
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:40:35 pm »Message ID: 1329293
It doesn't "bite" you anywhere. The point is you have to use your brain. Try thinking for yourself instead of cut/pasting watchtower tracts sometime.

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:36:18 pm »Message ID: 1329291
Donnamarg, I have 3 questions and please believe me, I mean no disrespect.  I don’t know a lot about JW is it true you don’t celebrate Christmas, your own birthdays, and you will not stand for the national anthem?  Again, I am just curious no disrespect intended
Hi Nancy.I will do my best to answer you and USE the bible to help.

12/25 is NOT a date in the bible and the bible never mentions it should be celebrated as Jesus BD.Right after Jesus dismissed Judas at The Supper,he told the other 11 to keep remembering that night <Nisan 14 Passover.He knew he would be executed and die that day.His death means much more to the human race  then his BD.His death ransomed us back from death and sin that we all got from Adams disobedience to God.What he went thru that day surely showed the LOVE that Jehovah and Jesus had for mankind.Thats why John 3:16 is one of the most quoted scriptures in the bible.

I will send u links RE birthdays and nationalism.Thanx for asking.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/birthdays/
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102008085

The bible is clear that the TRUE God Jehovah warns us about pagan celebrations that got started by pagan gods.

Celebrating the birth of Christ has nothing to do with paganism, but Jehovah Witnesses are a superstitious lot. They fear Satan in the details, while they invite him in wholeheartedly via the Watchtower's teachings. I'm sure Jesus would quote Matt 23:24 about them. "You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."
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2 birthdays are also mentioned in the bible.They both ended up in executions.John The Baptist one of them

Go read the 2nd chapter of Mathew how the astrologers followed a star and it ended up with King Herod murdering all the 2 yr olds in Bethlehem.The celebration in this world of the nativity scene turned into a murderous spree.
This is incredible. LOL It's like saying, I got a cold once on my birthday, so all birthday parties are EEEEEEEEEVIL!. Lol. Superstitious nonsense...
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Go read in Exodus how Jehovah dealt with Israel after God saved them from the Egyptians and then they worshipped false gods.Some graditude eh?He punished them rightfully so.

Also the birth of Jesus said there were sheperds in the field.12/25 in Bethlehem is a cold  rainy season.Sheperds wouldn't be out in that.EL NINO????LOL!

But we know the EXACT date each yr of Passover <Nisan 14 Jewish calendar>Jesus death,cos he commanded us to memorialize it....supported by the  bible.




How do you know what the weather was like on Jesus birthday? Were you there? lol

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:29:41 pm »Message ID: 1329288
New International Version
Jesus gave them this answer: "Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

John 5:19

BTW,trinity NEVER mentioned in bible as 12/25 isnt either.
The concept of the trinity is codified again and again. The verses I provided is one proof of thousands.
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Very true,i and the father one in justice,love and wisdom.The Word was with God.He spoke for Jehovah and was with him as his master worker <in reference to Jesus> in creation.Let US create man.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/

Isaiah 42:8  I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

So what do you do with John 17:5

 "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." The Son shares the Father's glory, because they share the same essence in the Godhood.

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Rev 4:11   “You are worthy, Jehovah* our God, to receive the glorya and the honor and the power,c because you created all things,and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”


Incidentally, in view of the existence of so many called gods, does it not establish the need for The God, the Almighty God, to have a distinguishing name, that is, Jehovah?





There are no other gods. Only the one true God exists.

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Off-Topic / Re: Father's Day
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:21:56 pm »Message ID: 1329287
Happy Fathers Day to all the dads out there!

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Payment Pictures / My $30.21 Check cashout payment
« on: June 13, 2020, 09:18:57 am »Message ID: 1328210


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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: June 12, 2020, 10:22:40 pm »Message ID: 1328184
Ill answer the last one for u cos all the other im tired of dealing with.

Yes Jehovah has made Jesus king of his kingdom and to judge mankind.After the 1000 yr rein of Jesus ruling the earth from heaven mankind is brought back to perfection as A&E were.Satan is abyssed with his angels.The earth is turned into a paradise.The dead are resurrected.After 1000 yrs Satan is loosed and he brings many down again and then he and disobedient mankind are gone and Jesus turns the kingdom over to Jehovah.

You can find these answers on JW.org and thru book of Revelation.

You arent going to heaven.I doubt ur 1 of 144000.Plus the bible says the righteous will inherit the earth and the earth lasts forever and God created it to be inhabited.Your way of thinking is implying God created man to die and go to heaven or hell.People wouldnt be on the earth anymore!!!Goes against all the other scriptures.

You completely missed the point- as expected. If Jehovah does not judge, but leaves all judgement to the Son, why does it say "His [Jehovah's] reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him?" I'll make it easy to understand- Jesus is equal to the Father. Jesus is also Jehovah God-the Son. "I and the Father are One" = The Trinity.

*Mic drop

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 29, 2020, 11:23:50 am »Message ID: 1326262
JJ do me a favor and ask the following when u get to heaven...


If Jesus is God?
If God is a puppeteer?
If Jesus resurrection in same fleshly body?
If 12/25 Jesus BD?
If man has an immortal soul?
If firery hell exists?

If u dont make it to heaven,maybe before Armagheddon comes u still might find out truth.

O and ask for CG if the Rapture exists,or did she mean her rap-sheet?

If Jesus is God, as some churches teach, who resurrected Jesus?
Jesus is not God​—whose name is Jehovah—​but he is the Son of God. Jehovah resurrected Jesus from the dead. (Romans 10:9) One Bible scholar comments: “It is unthinkable that anyone​—even Christ—​could raise himself.” *

Now get ur 30 posts and ban yourself for another month.

LOL truly funny.You send in a zillion posts to ban us,and ur gone 5 weeks with very little forum...LOL!!!

I honestly don't need to ask any questions when I get to heaven, since I actually READ the bible free from the Watchtower's Blasphemy. The answers are all there for you to read, hitch. It's no secret.

 The only questions I have are for YOU.

Why was Jesus sent by God to die a horrible death, if He was not atoning for our sins?

Why did Christ accept Thomas worship if He were not equal with God the Father?

Why would Christ fabricate a new body complete with death wounds in order to trick Thomas into believing He was raised?

I've posed these multiple times now, and have yet to receive a competent explanation on ANY of them.

Here's a new question you won't be able to answer, just to keep things fresh- and I'll do it using your own corrupt Watchtower translation:


In Isaiah 40:10 it says Look! The Sovereign Lord Jehovah himself will come even as a strong one, and his arm will be ruling for him. Look! His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him

But in Matt 16:27, Jesus says
For the Son of man is destined to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will recompense each one according to his behavior.

Who is going to Judge the Earth? Jesus or Jehovah? Jesus is sounding an awful lot like Jehovah in Matt 16:27! And we know from John 5:22 it says "For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son,"

So how can Jehovah fulfill Isaiah's prophecy that "His reward is with him, and the wage he pays is before him" if God leaves all judgement to the Son?

Ponder that one for a while.....

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 29, 2020, 10:56:17 am »Message ID: 1326258
So Pharoah said,who is Jesus i should let his people go?LOL!!

Also,dont u think Jehovah saw EXACTLY what was in Pharoahs heart?That he was above all  else and allowed him to carry out his sin?

David committed a terrible sin and was punished for it.But God saw he was truly sorry and forgave him.

Jehovah isnt a puppeteer.

Jehovah will be the one to decide where ur ignorance comes from.His justice saw Paul meant well and after he humbled him his true zeal for the truth came front and center.He will judge what is really in your heart and all of us.

The point is not that Pharaoh didn't have free will, quite the opposite. God knew what kind of person he was and used that to shame him before everyone.

Kinda the same way God is using you to motivate me to shame the Watchtower's blasphemous teaching every chance I get for the glory of God the Father. 

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 29, 2020, 10:52:26 am »Message ID: 1326257
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973406

God NOT Jesus raised Jesus

Your line the apostles understood him truly a joke when link proves by a few scriptures in bible they knew God resurrected him.

Im serious.Leave us alone.UR a waste of a waste in more then 1 way.A defeated individual who is a glutton to lose and lose.Its more then just the bible with you.You showed ur true colors the past yr.Stay off FC.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973406

God NOT Jesus raised Jesus

Your line the apostles understood him truly a joke when link proves by a few scriptures in bible they knew God resurrected him.

Im serious.Leave us alone.UR a waste of a waste in more then 1 way.A defeated individual who is a glutton to lose and lose.Its more then just the bible with you.You showed ur true colors the past yr.Stay off FC.

I already refuted this using your own Watchtower tract, but if you want another public spanking, papa will be happy to provide. lol

In the tract they reference Peter saying “God raised this One up on the third day.” (Acts 10:40) &  Paul saying  “If, now, the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his spirit that resides in you.” (Rom. 8:11)  Couple that with the verse I already quoted from John 2 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” and you have a picture of the Triune God in action. Father, Son & Holy Ghost ALL working in union to raise Christ from the dead! The scriptures cannot be any clearer- and this is all taken from your Watchtower tract- it PROVES the Trinity right there! lol!

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 29, 2020, 10:42:39 am »Message ID: 1326255
What is with all the weird jehovah's witness drama on this website?

hitch is an unhinged JW who was banned from the site by FC for his disruptive and aggressive posting against people who disagrees with his warped JW theology.

He's returned several times under several different aliases (Drutts, DonnaMarg etc) FC gave me assurances that they would deal with him (presumably through a lawsuit) though they seem to have adopted radio silence over the past few months, prompting hitch to declare 'victory' and claim the FC Message Board for the Watchtower.   

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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 28, 2020, 07:31:55 pm »Message ID: 1326179
You were dumb enuff to admit u sent in 47 reports to FC 6 months ago.

Your brain finally came back to earth and u realized what a jerk you are and now you are hush hush re the #.

47 was enuff to realize what a dope u were.I am sure its much higher cos ur prayer wasnt answered by YOUR god incarnate.LOL!

Ego maniac. LOL

Everyone is put on this earth by God for a purpose. Even if -as in hitch's case- to show a bad example!
This takes the cake what u say here.

The bible says God Doesnt try anyone with evil.Whatever happened to freedom of choice?

GEEEEEESHHHHHH!!

I suppose you think God was responsible for rebellion in Eden?You might cos u think death goes to life and the bible doesnt support that.Sometimes i really wonder what the hec U think UR reading.

For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. Romans 9:17-18


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Off-Topic / Re: MY anniversary
« on: May 28, 2020, 07:27:05 pm »Message ID: 1326178
So you're not gonna address your bizarre statements? Not surprising.

At least answer this- what did Jesus use to put these "new holes" into His hands & feet? And did He get help? Kinda hard to pierce your own hands & feet! lol

Remember hitch, if it seems like I'm mocking the JWs, it's because you leave me no choice with the truly abhorrent mistreatment you throw at Jesus Christ. If you kept your bible illiteracy to yourself, you'd have saved your sect all this public ridicule.
So u scroll its a waste to speak bible with us then u still ask questions for debate?

You think cos you and most of the world mock JWs that means something?Still cant figure it out eh?

Im sure Noah was mocked too.Only 8 survived flood.Tsk tsk.So many more exampless.But ill show im a good guy and still answer the Thomas question.

You see Jesus wasnt recognized even by Thomas.Thomas wanted to see piercings right?Prompted Jesus to say words RE sight.

Also why do u think God never let Moses body be found?

Also bible says God resurrected Jesus in the spirit after his death.You even think Jesus resurrected himself..LOL!!

Examples in bible where angels put on spirit bodies as in Gabriel or angels with Abraham.

Hope u appreciate i was at least trying to be nice.

Again im sure if Jesus could raise the dead,walk on water etc,putting a few holes in his fleshly body to please Thomas was a piece of cake.


The JWs are mocked for good reason. The scripture is crystal clear, staring you right in the face and yet you let the Watchtower twist God's word into a pretzel.

You seem to have such difficulty with the fact that the Disciple 'didn't recognise' Jesus, but again, the explanation is so simple- too simple in fact, so that you need some preposterous explanation.

Nowhere in the Gospels does it say the Apostles "Didn't recognise" Jesus. In Luke, the Disciples fear He's a ghost, and He proves otherwise. Likewise, in John. Obviously they lived with Him and recognised Him immediately. So this in no way proves the magical "new body" Russell dreamed up. There is no evidence to the contrary that this was indeed Jesus body born in flesh.

The two times people 'didn't recognise' Him in the bible post resurrection were Mary Magdalene  & the two walking from Emmaus. The first, I've explained countless times. Mary was weeping, Jesus comes up behind her, in the morning sun through tearful eyes she didn't recognise Him at first. No need to dream up a fairy tale explanation.

The two walking were not as close to Jesus as the Twelve. God used this fact to keep them from recognising Him easily. Again, a simple explanation like that should suffice for you, instead of undoing 2 millenniums of theology that prove Christ as the triune God.

As for Thomas, your Watchtower explanation makes no sense at all. Follow me with this.

The Disciples tell Thomas Jesus was raised to life

Thomas says he can't believe it....unless he sees the marks of the nails- Jesus wounds.

Why would he say that?

Because it would be the only proof that could be believed. Otherwise, if it happened as the Watchtower says, ANYONE could've walked through the door claiming to be Jesus.

So despite his reputation as "Doubting Thomas", Thomas was pretty smart. He knew the only way to prove Jesus was raised was to see the marks of the nails in His own body that He gave up to be crucified in.

But watch out! Here comes the Watchtower telling you that Jesus didn't want to prove to Thomas that He beat death & the grave by showing He was raised in the body He died to. He wanted to be a trickster! He didn't prove Himself the Lord over Life & Death! He manufactured a new body- complete with death wounds in order to trick Thomas into believing it was the same body that he sought proof of!

How sick is this teaching? How can you not call the Watchtower the spawn of Satan for fabricating this blasphemous garbage?

You are the one calling Jesus a liar. HE said He would raise Himself from the dead.

For the 4 billionth time (and watch it's significance blow right by you for the 4 billionth time-) John 2:18-22
 The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?”

 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

 They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body.

 After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

The Disciples understood Him in this. Why can't you?

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Off-Topic / Re: Pfizer gives first doses of experimental vaccine to 'young and healthy' American
« on: May 20, 2020, 11:50:09 am »Message ID: 1325454
If they think they can make this vaccine mandatory, they're in for a shock...
Right on!!Make sure you get Satans approval first.

I don't need the Watchtower's approval, thank you. 

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Debate & Discuss / Re: Sometimes evil does win
« on: May 20, 2020, 11:48:19 am »Message ID: 1325453
It's been winning here with hitch running lose, so I guess there's that undeniable fact!
Sure is.U and CG have made sure of that.

You lost remember that.IC it even affects your spelling...LOL!

Can I help it if your name is synonymous with lose? LOL

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