The proof that God exists...

[clcflash]

Lets see. God is God for monotheists. atheists sincerely believe there isn't a god. glad we have that settled... any questions?

[bucksmakingmama]

Just out of curious, which bible do you believe in? Why that one in specific?

so does that mean you can accept Jesus and believe in him, and then murder etc. is ok?

I believe in the Holy Bible. Specifically the King James Version. I know there are different versions, and "men" decided on what was to be included, but I also believe that God isn't going to let the important stuff get lost in the confusion. I believe in that one because it is the Word of God.

And, yes, I have accepted Jesus and I do believe in him. I don't believe that murder is ok, etc., but, on the other hand, it is up to each one of us to make decisions on the actions we take and the way we live. In the end, it is God who will judge us and Jesus to defend us.


And again, if this isn't part of anyone's belief, that is ok. I'm just stating mine. No one actually knows for sure until we die. And I don't think that it will matter who's right and who's wrong. It will be just as it is when it is. 

[liljp617]

Lets see. God is God for monotheists. atheists sincerely believe there isn't a god. glad we have that settled... any questions?

If you're going to try to summarize such a vast conversation, at least bother to have basic facts correct:


1)  The vast majority of atheists do not take the stance that there is not and cannot be a god(s)
2)  The vast majority of atheists are agnostic atheists, individuals who recognize mankind's inability to prove/disprove the existence or nonexistence of deities but personally lack belief in them
3)  Lacking belief in something is absolutely not the same as believing that something doesn't exist/occur

Speak less, read more and you'll probably learn a few things.

[tcolon52]

3-GOD is with in all of us. How we carry and represent HIM is a different story.  Not religion but just existing on earth. .Life is grand live it to its fullest and allow everyone his/her opinion.

[angel379227]

There is a reason that you deny the existence of God and it has nothing to do with proof. I can show this to you. Examine what your initial reaction was to the proof of God's existence offered on this website.

You presented not a shred of evidence to support "proof". I think you need to consult a dictionary.

[lynnc35]

I will take you up on that, since I have proof, just because you cannot see something with the human eye, and of course, you can not see God, God made humans. The things I seen, ha. I can't even look at your question without hoping for you to know the truth, without praying for you to lose your doubt, doubt is what is keeping you from seeing truth, only you do not know it. God will show Himself through Faith.

[tigerlilly01]

God Does exist, when you are saved he lives in your heart..... I am happy to say I am a Christian.

[angel379227]

I will take you up on that, since I have proof, just because you cannot see something with the human eye, and of course, you can not see God, God made humans. The things I seen, ha. I can't even look at your question without hoping for you to know the truth, without praying for you to lose your doubt, doubt is what is keeping you from seeing truth, only you do not know it. God will show Himself through Faith.

Wut. Dude get outta here. You have an extremely one-sided view on "truth" which I am not interested in. Every man has to seek his own truths. While you only look to one source for your faith, I look to many to determine what it means to me. Christianity may be your way, but please don't be so vain as to profess it's the ONLY way. You are not so special as that.

[Rastov]

Well I do hope you speak to your children like you speak to any person who believes in God (assuming your kids believe, since they usually do) and I do hope you don't hold back and really lay it on them. I also hope when a Loved one dies you really tell them what happens and not make it all sweet like you will see them in Heaven one day. hahahahahaha that should screw them up

Why did you copy and paste this exact post in three different threads?

[debraleesparks]

    I bet this guy believes right now !!!

[teflonfanatic]

HE exists because everybody can't be wrong as we're celebrating his birthday today. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS

Actually we're celebrating the festival of Saturnalia and the winter solstice, holidays hijacked by Christianity some years ago to gain more power over people.

FALSE CHRISTIANITY as a whole has used holidays(modern-day revelries) for popularity.

Easter is rooted in celtic worship and is connected with eostre or pagan queen of the heavens.  Want more proof?
How about the bunny symbol being a sign of fertility, it's the same symbol of hef's company, YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT. Also there's a reason the birthday accounts in the bible are negative, for example if you research the origin of birthday's it began with gentile nations and not with god's people, also the song itself has connections to good luck chants to ward off evil spirits from the celebrant.

As for the trinity it completely contradicts scripture because the whole hebrew-aramaic scriptures(or old testament) is monotheistic, also the trinity is rooted in almost all gentile nations (egyptians, assyrians etc) so anyone thinking that the trinity is monotheistic is following himself.

No one can see god and live
Exodus 33:20

Jesus IS a created being
Proverbs 8:22, Colossians 1:15, 16, Revelation 3:14

Is Jesus or god the second Adam??!!! Don't forget that no one can see god and live
1Corinthians 15:45-49

[Rastov]

As for the trinity it completely contradicts scripture because the whole hebrew-aramaic scriptures(or old testament) is monotheistic,
No one can see god and live
Exodus 33:20

Jesus IS a created being
Proverbs 8:22, Colossians 1:15, 16, Revelation 3:14

Is Jesus or god the second Adam??!!! Don't forget that no one can see god and live
1Corinthians 15:45-49

I'll agree that the concept of the Trinity runs contrary to the Hebrew scriptures, but your reasoning is wrong. You can't see God in His full form and live. God appeared before several people. He appeared before Abraham on his way to Sodom, and he wrestled with Jacob. As I recall, he makes at least three appearances.

also the trinity is rooted in almost all gentile nations (egyptians, assyrians etc) so anyone thinking that the trinity is monotheistic is following himself.

The concept of the Trinity being both three and one is not that difficult to grasp. Imagine pouring three different types of paint together. They mix up together to form a single color, despite being made up of three unique colors.
I have no idea what you mean when you say the concept is rooted in Egyptian or Assyrian culture. There is nothing even similar to a Trinity in either region's  religions.

[debraleesparks]

 

[teflonfanatic]

As for the trinity it completely contradicts scripture because the whole hebrew-aramaic scriptures(or old testament) is monotheistic,
No one can see god and live
Exodus 33:20

Jesus IS a created being
Proverbs 8:22, Colossians 1:15, 16, Revelation 3:14

Is Jesus or god the second Adam??!!! Don't forget that no one can see god and live
1Corinthians 15:45-49

I'll agree that the concept of the Trinity runs contrary to the Hebrew scriptures, but your reasoning is wrong. You can't see God in His full form and live. God appeared before several people. He appeared before Abraham on his way to Sodom, and he wrestled with Jacob. As I recall, he makes at least three appearances.

also the trinity is rooted in almost all gentile nations (egyptians, assyrians etc) so anyone thinking that the trinity is monotheistic is following himself.

The concept of the Trinity being both three and one is not that difficult to grasp. Imagine pouring three different types of paint together. They mix up together to form a single color, despite being made up of three unique colors.
I have no idea what you mean when you say the concept is rooted in Egyptian or Assyrian culture. There is nothing even similar to a Trinity in either region's  religions.

Here's some pics of their sun worship trinity oh btw the india trinity is also called a triune god 
http://www.watchtower.org/e/ti/article_04.htm

http://paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/no_11_isis_and_serapis.htm


I'm not trying to hurt peoples feelings or anything but it's a fact that the christian trinity is a 4th century invention that came from pagan origin. Either way the fact that trinitARIANS believe that Jesus is NOT created contradicts scripture because it says he's created and according to the trinity doctrine Jehovah(YHWH) and Jesus are both equally eternal, yet Jesus has a beginning.

Can you give me the scripture where it says God wrestled with Jacob please.

As for proof of God's existence follow the bible prophecies and look at the archaeology evidence.

[CHajenian]

Re: The proof that God exists...  if one wants to know whether or not God exists, one should do a simple little prayer and ask Him.  Ask Him to show without a doubt that He exists.    If one REALLY WANTS to know...that's really all one has to do. 

A few years ago I read a book called, "A Course in Miracles".  It isn't the Bible, but it speaks of God in a way that I have not heard before.  What it says is, "Nothing real can be threatened.  Nothing unreal exists.  Herein lies the peace of God."  I agree that knowledge is truth and to have a relationship with God gives us knowledge of the truth of His existence.  God is Real.

"A Course in Miracles" makes a fundamental distinction between the real and the unreal; between knowledge and perception.  God is love and knowledge is truth.  To have a relationship with God is to know the truth; something that cannot be clouded by perceptions. 

This book says, "Truth is unalterable, eternal and unambiguous.  It can be unrecognized, but it cannot be changed.  It applies to everything that God created, and only what He created is real.  It is beyond learning because it is beyond time and process.  It has no opposite; no beginning and no end.  It  merely is."  "The world of perception," A Course in Miracles says, "is a world of time, of change, of beginnings and endings.  It is based on interpretation, not on facts.  It is the world of birth and death, founded on the belief in scarcity, loss, separation and death.  It is learned rather than given, selective in its perceptual emphases, unstable in its functioning, and inaccurate in its interpretations."

The proof that God exists is found in the thought system of knowledge, rather than the thought system of perception.  In the realm of knowledge no thoughts exist apart from God, because God and His Creation share one Will.  The world of perception, however, is made by the belief in opposites and separate wills, in perpetual conflict with each other and with God.  What perception sees and hears appears to be real because it permits into awareness only what conforms to the wishes of the perceiver.  This leads to a world of illusions, a world which needs constant defense precisely because it is not real.