So I'm going to have to lumberjack your post here...
Satan started out as a snake now he's a full-fledged 7-headed 10-horned dragon who is ruling through the earthly "powers" right now
This is what I was talking about. Your arguments are parallel to explaining the existence of Madusa, Harpies, or the Cyclops from Greek Myth to people if they hear you say this and are skeptical of the bible.
As for all life being made from dirt seriously what do all living creation on Earth decompose to?? Oh yeah that's right DIRT.
This would make sense if we were talking about death. Not life. I'd accept stardust as an answer though!
Oh and I will always rely on the bible instead of man-made philosophy, it's a snare that's easy for anyone to fall in it's probably Satan's greatest trap.
There's nothing wrong with education, however too much time away learning in Satan's world could get you mixed up in philosophy.
What a convenient cop-out to shield yourself from education, personal thought, and human advancement. If you were alive 500 years ago, I'd wager a lot on you praising the house-arrest of Galileo due to his findings not aligning with the bibles philosophy.
It seems like you didn't do a lot of personal studying on your own, correct me if i'm wrong.
Granted it has been a long time, but I remember a bit of it. And these are all vague animal descriptions that could be aligned with any (to-be) historical significance just like the writings of Nostradamus.
Why should we help the governments I mean kingdoms with the voting. If anything seeing how Bush cheated his way into office should prove this!!!!!! Also I found out that Bush Sr. Financed hitler's war!!!!!! By joining an army to fight in a war christians will be supporting a war that Satan authorized for christians and not God. Obviously not following Jesus' stance on neutrality.
Hitlers war? Are you implying we're trying some sort of manifest-destiny in the Middle East? Bush 'cheating' his way into office was a wake up call to Americans. A lot of our countries younger generation, including me, did not vote and then this happened. If anything, him being president strengthened the power of voting once he was out of office due to his so-called failures. I only say 'so-called' to avoid arguments with other people and who knows if history will vindicate him. Anyway, this is what I previously stated-- sitting back and doing nothing creates atrocities in government powers and it hurts everyone. Our foundations get crushed and we lose our freedoms and luxuries. But you're beliefs say doing something about it is satan toying with us. The JW's sit back, don't take action, and then play the blame game after the crap hits the fan. They have no right to do that. Say what you want, your opinion does not count in politics.
About Jesus' stance on neutrality though, sure our founding fathers took a swing at that and it worked for a while, but the bigger they get, the harder the problems get. I've stated this many times, but Jesus was practically the first hippy. "Slap my cheek? I'll turn so you can hit the other!" Taking Jesus' neutral stance gets you run over a lot in the present.
not take part in any other community but their own. Ok now your slandering. The JW's have supported many disaster reliefs such as the false flag 9/11 attack.
And it was pretty convenient that Bethel was in NYC and that they always use this as an example without acknowledging the other religious groups that aided. Let me share with you a quick personal story-- my dad volunteered to go down to New Orleans (Sladell? Sledell?) to aid during Katrina. He ended up being assigned to a group that cleaned out a deserted restaurant and used it as a station for taking care of dropped-off abandoned dogs, cats, etc. He was gone for 2 weeks and loved every minute of it.
During this time he was a JW and when he got home, my parents had a small party and some JW's came for it. One man who he'd never met before asked him about it and wondered why he didn't go down to aid the JW's in rebuilding their homes first. The man seemed offended and wouldn't let it go. As a result, the elders took him in later at church and questioned him for not looking to the church first to see what he could do for the JW's down there. So pretty much he was scolded for aiding down there because he didn't help the right people. So don't tell me I'm slandering. I've seen it with my own eyes.
All birthdays and holidays venerate a world ruler or venerate spiritistic teachings, the hallmarks of babylon the great!!!
Who cares? They've evolved into something somewhat nice. Just like soccer. Soccer has a brutal and barbaric history and now it's the most-played sport on the planet. Nobody has the right to say they're mandatory or that you can't do them. And the reason people do them today is because they're fun (or zombies from doing it all their lives 
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As for preaching all the time that's a lie, when they're not preaching they're inviting people to gatherings, eating at restaurants, going to movies etc.
Oh I know. I've been there. Mormons do this to. And then once you're there and not of the church, they will pester you to join. I've seen this dozens of times-- stories from myself and others.
Hey, everyone has to make the decision whether to be a friend of the world or not. Also everyone must choose who to slave for cause you can't slave for 2 masters
I'll take the one that I can see and interact with without my telepathy.
As for majority of Church-goers who are you referring to the JW's or christendom?
JW's. The majority of the people I grew up with left within a 5 year period.
I'm BACK 0_0!!!!!!!!
1. Everyone starts out being skeptical until they actually study. I now understand you, you choose the world cause you didn't want to follow christ standards anymore. It's a choice for everyone and not mandatory if you don't really want to, my uncle choose the world once and CHOOSE to get DF'ed now he's reinstated
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2. Dust, dirt, stardust still created from something, oh and everytime you scratch yourself that's DIRT your scratching off and last time I checked you were alive when you scratched yourself.
3. Matthew 4:4 reads 4 But in reply he said: “It is written, ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through Jehovah’s mouth.’”
1 John 2:15-17 reads 15 Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. 17 Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.
1 Corinthians 3:18-20 reads 18 Let no one be seducing himself: If anyone among YOU thinks he is wise in this system of things, let him become a fool, that he may become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God; for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.” 20 And again: “Jehovah knows that the reasonings of the wise men are futile.”
Colossians 2:8 reads 8 Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ.
4. My dear fallen star, those are more then just mere historical significances and if you think like that then history class in school must have just been mere historical significances as well. As for the animal representations I suggest you read Daniel again.
5. Please stop making excuses and who cares if my opinions don't count towards politics, I don't support it anyway. John 17:16 reads 16 They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.
Romans 12:2 Reads 2 And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
John 18:36 reads 36 Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”
Since the founding fathers were "apart of the world" they couldn't take the hardship and they succumbed.
6. Your still making excuses the JW's still supported people during the disasters even if they did emphasis helping the own "family" first, btw that's just common sense help out your own family first. I would do the same thing the elders did if my "literal" family helped someone else first.
7. Fun does not make it ok. Some people think doing drugs is fun doesn't make it ok. Some people think sniffing chemicals is fun doesn't make it ok. Some people think cutting themselves is fun and DEFINITELY doesn't make it ok. This is not surprising though as the scrips(got that off an omarion blog about him studying with the JW's) say that satan "has blinded the minds of the unbelievers. I suggest you read Colossians 2:8 again.
2 Corinthians 4:4 reads 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.
Jude 17-19 reads 17 As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18 how they used to say to YOU: “In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things.” 19 These are the ones that make separations, animalistic [men], not having spirituality.
8. Who cares if the mormons do this they have the world's most powerful sect FLDS and you have to pay to go to their church anyway and believe that God has a goddess wife which is in pagan religion. But enough Mormon bashing what does this mean? "And then once you're there and not of the church, they will pester you to join. I've seen this dozens of times-- stories from myself and others." Please elaborate
9. Even Solomon who had everything saw the world as vanity
Ecclesiastes 1:14-17 reads 14 I saw all the works that were done under the sun, and, look! everything was vanity and a striving after wind.15 That which is made crooked cannot be made straight, and that which is wanting cannot possibly be counted. 16 I, even I, spoke with my heart, saying: “Look! I myself have greatly increased in wisdom more than anyone that happened to be before me in Jerusalem, and my own heart saw a great deal of wisdom and knowledge.” 17 And I proceeded to give my heart to knowing wisdom and to knowing madness, and I have come to know folly, that this too is a striving after wind. 18 For in the abundance of wisdom there is an abundance of vexation, so that he that increases knowledge increases pain.
As for faith read these scrips, a former drug addict had an acronym for faith. his acronym definition was finding adventures in trusting him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld. 2 For by means of this the men of old times had witness borne to them.
3 By faith we perceive that the systems of things were put in order by God’s word, so that what is beheld has come to be out of things that do not appear.
4 By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain, through which [faith] he had witness borne to him that he was righteous, God bearing witness respecting his gifts; and through it he, although he died, yet speaks.
5 By faith E´noch was transferred so as not to see death, and he was nowhere to be found because God had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased God well. 6 Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.
7 By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household; and through this [faith] he condemned the world, and he became an heir of the righteousness that is according to faith.
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed in going out into a place he was destined to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, although not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he resided as an alien in the land of the promise as in a foreign land, and dwelt in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the very same promise. 10 For he was awaiting the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which [city] is God.
11 By faith also Sarah herself received power to conceive seed, even when she was past the age limit, since she esteemed him faithful who had promised. 12 Hence also from one [man], and him as good as dead, there were born [children] just as the stars of heaven for multitude and as the sands that are by the seaside, innumerable.
13 In faith all these died, although they did not get the [fulfillment of the] promises, but they saw them afar off and welcomed them and publicly declared that they were strangers and temporary residents in the land. 14 For those who say such things give evidence that they are earnestly seeking a place of their own. 15 And yet, if they had indeed kept remembering that [place] from which they had gone forth, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven. Hence God is not ashamed of them, to be called upon as their God, for he has made a city ready for them.
17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, as good as offered up Isaac, and the man that had gladly received the promises attempted to offer up [his] only-begotten [son], 18 although it had been said to him: “What will be called ‘your seed’ will be through Isaac.” 19 But he reckoned that God was able to raise him up even from the dead; and from there he did receive him also in an illustrative way.
20 By faith also Isaac blessed Jacob and E´sau concerning things to come.
21 By faith Jacob, when about to die, blessed each of the sons of Joseph and worshiped leaning upon the top of his staff.
22 By faith Joseph, nearing his end, made mention of the exodus of the sons of Israel; and he gave a command concerning his bones.
23 By faith Moses was hid for three months by his parents after his birth, because they saw the young child was beautiful and they did not fear the order of the king. 24 By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Phar´aoh, 25 choosing to be ill-treated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin, 26 because he esteemed the reproach of the Christ as riches greater than the treasures of Egypt; for he looked intently toward the payment of the reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt, but not fearing the anger of the king, for he continued steadfast as seeing the One who is invisible. 28 By faith he had celebrated the passover and the splashing of the blood, that the destroyer might not touch their firstborn ones.
29 By faith they passed through the Red Sea as on dry land, but on venturing out upon it the Egyptians were swallowed up.
30 By faith the walls of Jer´i·cho fell down after they had been encircled for seven days. 31 By faith Ra´hab the harlot did not perish with those who acted disobediently, because she received the spies in a peaceable way.
I'm not trying to force anyone to believe in the bible, just showing people what it says regrading people's statements and in time maybe someone's heart will be touched enough to get a free study with the JW's.
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