The Bible as Truth?

[queenofnines]

We don't call u aithesit, Christains call people who do NOT believe in God, thats who is called a aithesit

Christians don't "call" anyone anything because an atheist isn't a dirty name, it's just a label for convenience.  Oh, and it might help your credibility a little more if you learned how to spell atheist to begin with.  lol

[constance312003]

The Bible is God's word, it is HisStory (history) from Genesis to Revelation - and you can see where He is a faithful, covenant-keeping God who fulfills all His promises; fulfilling the one where His only Son, Yahshua, became the sacrificial Lamb, becoming flesh and dying on the cross that we could all be saved from sin by His grace.  He set apart His people and promised the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; that land was NOT promised to Ishmael nor his descendants.  Therefore Israel belongs to the Jewish people and will remain God's chosen land, set apart for Him.  HisStory will come to a fitting climax when Yahshua returns as the Warrior King, and reclaim Jerusalem where both Jew and Gentile will become one.  And He is coming soon!

Well said.  I believe He is coming soon as well.  I have been reading from messianic (sp) Jews for a few years.  They have such understanding of the Bible.

[Shahrukhlover]

People who don't believe it's true shouldn't be called atheists.  It's called being secular if you are a Christian.  I'm a Hindu. I don't believe anything the Bible says because it belongs to a relgion I don't agree with.  That doesn't make me an atheist, and it shouldn't make you one.

[Falconer02]

People who don't believe it's true shouldn't be called atheists.  It's called being secular if you are a Christian.  I'm a Hindu. I don't believe anything the Bible says because it belongs to a relgion I don't agree with.  That doesn't make me an atheist, and it shouldn't make you one.

I was going to mention this too because that post had reasoning problems. Christianity is just one of the many popular religions. Not being christian does not automatically make one an atheist.

[amyrouse]

People who don't believe it's true shouldn't be called atheists.  It's called being secular if you are a Christian.  I'm a Hindu. I don't believe anything the Bible says because it belongs to a relgion I don't agree with.  That doesn't make me an atheist, and it shouldn't make you one.

The Bible doesn't necessarily have to be a book of true stories for someone to be a Christian, either.  The original point of this topic when I posted it was that regardless of whether or not the stories are true, whether those events actually occurred, doesn't make the lesson learned any less significant.  The importance of the book is not whether it is factual but what you can gain from reading it.  The important thing, to me, is reading the book and coming to your own conclusions as to what you gain from reading it... whether it is a continued disbelief in a higher power/deity, a strengthened belief, a better moral code, or the conclusion that you were wrong and there isn't a g-d or g-ds.  I frown upon being spoon fed what to believe... we were all equipped with the capacity for reason for, ahem, a reason.  Anyone who would automatically label someone as an atheist for not believing the Bible is factual would be wrong.  I don't believe the stories in the Tanakh are factual, yet I am strong in my Jewish faith... but then again, I believe I am rare in that I am all inclusive when it comes to things... I don't look down upon those who believe differently.

[SCarter984]

The Bible is God's word, it is HisStory (history) from Genesis to Revelation - and you can see where He is a faithful, covenant-keeping God who fulfills all His promises; fulfilling the one where His only Son, Yahshua, became the sacrificial Lamb, becoming flesh and dying on the cross that we could all be saved from sin by His grace.  He set apart His people and promised the land to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; that land was NOT promised to Ishmael nor his descendants.  Therefore Israel belongs to the Jewish people and will remain God's chosen land, set apart for Him.  HisStory will come to a fitting climax when Yahshua returns as the Warrior King, and reclaim Jerusalem where both Jew and Gentile will become one.  And He is coming soon!

Well said.  I believe He is coming soon as well.  I have been reading from messianic (sp) Jews for a few years.  They have such understanding of the Bible.

Very well said.  I too have been reading and studying the Messianic Jews for four years now.  I always had a problem with the King James version, even after reading it front to back, twice, so I began reading the Torah written by a Messianic Jew.  I now understand much more than I ever had before. 

[nusa29]

we are not created in god's image as most people would think of this, no it has a different meaning. we don't look like god and we dont do things like god and we are not perfect but what is meant by this is we are created in god's image through the soul and the good that our souls can bring in to this world and to our selves and to others . We are made of energy and so is god he is all the energy that exists and that's what was meant by we are created by god's image.

[NeoMatrix71]

If you want to talk about magic, I'm to believe that everything was created by some gasess in space.  Isn't that magic, and all that is just theorical, not even proven. 
And god letting a plane crash is  just life. It's like when your children are grown you let them deal with the world on the own.  And who to say God didn't make sure that those he want to stay alive made sure they missed that flight.

Even so-call Atheists cry out to God when there are in an airplane crashin.

Uh...no.  Only a weak person would think that Magical Sky Man can save them... conveniently forgetting that it is Magical Sky Man who allowed it to happen in the first place, right?

[dragon702]

Why is it that many who believe the Bible isn't 100% the truth call those who don't atheists?

Because it's the Word of God, and if god is supposed to be perfect, why would he give us an imperfect book??

lol how is it the word of god if it was written by man

[jcribb16]

Why is it that many who believe the Bible isn't 100% the truth call those who don't atheists?

Because it's the Word of God, and if god is supposed to be perfect, why would he give us an imperfect book??

lol how is it the word of god if it was written by man

It was written by these men as told by God what to write.  Also, the Bible is not an imperfect book.  In order to understand several odd things that happen, we have to read from the beginning and what events lead up to the events in question.  We may not understand things now, but later we will, in God's time.

[queenofnines]

If you want to talk about magic, I'm to believe that everything was created by some gasess in space.

You don't have to believe it; there is an abundance of scientific evidence that proves the various elements of our universe formed naturally, no god required.  But you keep on denying science while simultaneously taking advantage of it; that seems to be working for you.  

Isn't that magic, and all that is just theorical, not even proven.

You don't know how to spell the word "gases" and you don't know what the word theory means; yep, you are officially not qualified to speak of anything scientific.  Run along now.

 
And god letting a plane crash is  just life. It's like when your children are grown you let them deal with the world on the own.  And who to say God didn't make sure that those he want to stay alive made sure they missed that flight.

Such simplemindedness!  This is really your argument?  That is bull that any human parent would allow their adult child to die if they could prevent it, and you know it.  As for some people missing the flight thanks to god, that is a load of cowpie once again.  You really expect me to think your god is a good guy when 2 people live and 300 others die a terrifying, gruesome death??  You need to get shaken if you think that is okay.

[Falconer02]

why are you so damn rude?

Troll/flamebait post. Ignore this.

Edit: Marie deleted her post. As usual. Heh.

[healthfreedom]

The bible is the true inspired word of God, writen by men chosen to do the same. If we beleiev and acccpt it's message, God will reveal himself to us to allow us to know personally that he is real, and wants to live within us.

[constance312003]

I can not imagine life without Christ- The Bible is so amazing in that it is simple yet complex.  C S Lewis went out to prove there was no God and through his studies became a Christian.  He is reponsible for so many books that help Christians.  Mere Christianity is a book that has led many so called intellectuals to give their hearts to Christ.  I recommend all those that are doubting whether God exists to read Mere Christianity

[Falconer02]

The bible is the true inspired word of God, writen by men chosen to do the same. If we beleiev and acccpt it's message, God will reveal himself to us to allow us to know personally that he is real, and wants to live within us.

The only thing that is correct here is "written by men".

I can not imagine life without Christ- The Bible is so amazing in that it is simple yet complex.

Maybe you should study it more to see the massive inconsistencies and true horrific nature of your god then. Old Testament ftw!

C S Lewis went out to prove there was no God and through his studies became a Christian.

Here's a quick note for you- any christian (or any religious follower) who says they were once an atheist/agnostic were never truly an atheist/agnostic to begin with. To say one subscribes to a realistic world and then jumps into the world of fantasy and dogma after doing their "research" is just flat out wrong. I have read some of Lewis' work. It is worded quite well and in many cases he makes a decent argument, but he's one to align himself with one of the many religions. That part is the most troubling to any rational mind. He was never an atheist.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/aah/inniss_8_2.htm
"By not appealing to faith or the divine word of the Bible, Lewis strives to put Christianity, and therefore Christians, on the same intellectual levels with science and rationalists. This approach is soothing to believers suffering from feelings of inferiority, who rarely note that Lewis's logic immediately collapses under even the most cursory critique"