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Re: Aliens
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2010, 09:10:41 am »
Why should we be the only ones in the
whole wide universe?

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2010, 03:11:35 pm »
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I'm not saying angels couldn't have appeared as an angel or even appearing as a human, what i'm saying is there's a possibility that angels when they were taken a form of man could have taken the form of a grey. This of course is speculation and can't be proven.

Yep. Including your own beliefs.  ;)

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Why should we be the only ones in the whole wide universe?

I know! Seems like an awful waste of space for just one life-bearing spec in this universe.

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2010, 05:43:46 pm »
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I'm not saying angels couldn't have appeared as an angel or even appearing as a human, what i'm saying is there's a possibility that angels when they were taken a form of man could have taken the form of a grey. This of course is speculation and can't be proven.

Yep. Including your own beliefs.  ;)

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Why should we be the only ones in the whole wide universe?

I know! Seems like an awful waste of space for just one life-bearing spec in this universe.

Yeah, and the scientific teaching that something comes from zero is just as much speculation.

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2010, 06:18:31 pm »
NUH UH YORE ALL RONG BECUZ TEH BIBLE DOZ NOT SAY ANYTHNGI ABOUT ALEINS STOP WATCHING SCI FIGH MOVIEZ AND WERSHIP TEH LORD

The Bible says that we are not of this world & this is not our home so WE are the aliens & so is God.    :o

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2010, 08:40:15 pm »
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Yeah, and the scientific teaching that something comes from zero is just as much speculation.

Science does not teach that.
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Re: Aliens
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2010, 09:34:11 pm »
Of course there are aliens because I have seen their craft.  I just don't understand why people think we are alone.  The universe is much too vast and there are too many planets to support only 6 billion beings.  If anyone believes in the Messiah, and that He came from The Father, and The Father is not from here, and we are the down line from the Messiah (and The Father) then one would have to think that we too are alien.

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2010, 08:15:52 am »
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Yeah, and the scientific teaching that something comes from zero is just as much speculation.

Science does not teach that.

Oh, explain what came before the big bang then or even the atom?

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2010, 11:29:05 am »
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Oh, explain what came before the big bang then or even the atom?

It's currently unknown what the origin of these things are. There are ideas but nobody can believe them because of a lack of evidence for it. But these are definitely not "nothing". Also saying a god did it is the same as saying "I can't explain fire or rainbows, therefore my god made them!". It's very naive to assert something without any evidence for it. Especially when one says they know what this idea wants, does, says, etc. To say a god did it and then clinging adamantly to that idea to the point of ignorance is just completely ridiculous. If I told you I have seen aliens before and that I know what they want and do and that you should obey them, you'd think I was a nutjob. But with religion, it's a norm to do this and it's respected by the members. Hypocrisy? Double-standard?

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2010, 12:15:30 pm »
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Oh, explain what came before the big bang then or even the atom?

It's currently unknown what the origin of these things are. There are ideas but nobody can believe them because of a lack of evidence for it. But these are definitely not "nothing". Also saying a god did it is the same as saying "I can't explain fire or rainbows, therefore my god made them!". It's very naive to assert something without any evidence for it. Especially when one says they know what this idea wants, does, says, etc. To say a god did it and then clinging adamantly to that idea to the point of ignorance is just completely ridiculous. If I told you I have seen aliens before and that I know what they want and do and that you should obey them, you'd think I was a nutjob. But with religion, it's a norm to do this and it's respected by the members. Hypocrisy? Double-standard?

Until Science can explain EVERYTHING, people are going to have their own beliefs, theories and ideas. None of them are right or wrong, since nobody knows the truth.

The problem lies, though, in saying that science is wrong because it doesn't jive with your belief system, or in discounting everything science has proven because it hasn't explained everything as of yet.  It is possible to still have faith in the spiritual without saying science is wrong or not having any understanding of science by claiming science says we come from nothing.



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Re: Aliens
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2010, 01:52:10 pm »
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Oh, explain what came before the big bang then or even the atom?

It's currently unknown what the origin of these things are. There are ideas but nobody can believe them because of a lack of evidence for it. But these are definitely not "nothing". Also saying a god did it is the same as saying "I can't explain fire or rainbows, therefore my god made them!". It's very naive to assert something without any evidence for it. Especially when one says they know what this idea wants, does, says, etc. To say a god did it and then clinging adamantly to that idea to the point of ignorance is just completely ridiculous. If I told you I have seen aliens before and that I know what they want and do and that you should obey them, you'd think I was a nutjob. But with religion, it's a norm to do this and it's respected by the members. Hypocrisy? Double-standard?

Until Science can explain EVERYTHING, people are going to have their own beliefs, theories and ideas. None of them are right or wrong, since nobody knows the truth.

The problem lies, though, in saying that science is wrong because it doesn't jive with your belief system, or in discounting everything science has proven because it hasn't explained everything as of yet.  It is possible to still have faith in the spiritual without saying science is wrong or not having any understanding of science by claiming science says we come from nothing.

Where did I even suggest that is what I meant. I never said Science was wrong! If anything my post points that Science is right.

That wasn't directed at you, Marie.  It was a continuation of the conversation.

Besides, your post says
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None of them are right or wrong, since nobody knows the truth.
  That suggests that at this point no one is right.  Science does hold truth; many people do discount science because it isn't biblical.



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Re: Aliens
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2010, 02:35:38 pm »
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The problem lies, though, in saying that science is wrong because it doesn't jive with your belief system, or in discounting everything science has proven because it hasn't explained everything as of yet.
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Science does hold truth; many people do discount science because it isn't biblical.

Precisely. And I honestly find this a major problem in our society. Btw did you know the earth is 6,000 years old?

I'm going to post a few comics from Bill Watterson that I thought pertain to this issue-





Edit: Post count = 1234! lolololol
« Last Edit: November 30, 2010, 03:13:23 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2010, 03:07:49 pm »
It depends on what you consider intelligent life to be.
Like I really don't see any on this planet....

But with the drake equations, it's probable that we are not alone.
And that's a good thing.

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2010, 08:29:23 pm »
I would like to think there is other life out there beyond our own. Maybe in a far off galaxy that we have not yet learned about. It would be arrogant of us to think that life on earth is all there is. I often wonder what the other lifeforms may look like and how they may live. I wonder how intelligent they may be and if they too think like us and live like us. Im sure one day we will discover another race of people beyond our own world. Until then we can just wonder.
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Re: Aliens
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2010, 09:33:12 pm »
NUH UH YORE ALL RONG BECUZ TEH BIBLE DOZ NOT SAY ANYTHNGI ABOUT ALEINS STOP WATCHING SCI FIGH MOVIEZ AND WERSHIP TEH LORD
what are you even talking about there are a lot of references in the bible that suggest sightings of UFO technology so there's a chance the bible does say something about it

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Re: Aliens
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2010, 09:42:01 am »
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The problem lies, though, in saying that science is wrong because it doesn't jive with your belief system, or in discounting everything science has proven because it hasn't explained everything as of yet.
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Science does hold truth; many people do discount science because it isn't biblical.

Precisely. And I honestly find this a major problem in our society. Btw did you know the earth is 6,000 years old?

I'm going to post a few comics from Bill Watterson that I thought pertain to this issue-





Edit: Post count = 1234! lolololol

I agree with science but I don't agree with it's theories. As for the earth and the universe being 6,000 years old, I disagree with that, I believe the human race is only 6,000 years old though and yeah I believe the ice age was the flood.

@dragon's quote and at falconor I guess: The book of Ezekiel talks about celestial chariots 0_0. The only Vehicles people knew of back then was Egyptian chariots which is a lot better then people give it credit for. The wheels on the chariots were much better then some stone age wheel. 
« Last Edit: December 01, 2010, 09:46:12 am by teflonfanatic »

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