The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[jcribb16]

If God had made everyone loving and perfect, then nothing would happen ever, anywhere.

Hmm, I think you're going to have a problem in "heaven" then!!!

I said "if."

[Annella]

If God had made everyone loving and perfect, then nothing would happen ever, anywhere.

Hmm, I think you're going to have a problem in "heaven" then!!!

For someone who touts that they use to be a Christian, and knows what the Bible says, makes your statement totally uncalled for.  Unless all you were doing was taking a verbal "spar" at Jcribb.

[jcribb16]

If God had made everyone loving and perfect, then nothing would happen ever, anywhere.

Hmm, I think you're going to have a problem in "heaven" then!!!

For someone who touts that they use to be a Christian, and knows what the Bible says, makes your statement totally uncalled for.  Unless all you were doing was taking a verbal "spar" at Jcribb.

I took it as such.  Just a petty remark to try and rile me.  Doesn't bother me!

[Annella]

If God had made everyone loving and perfect, then nothing would happen ever, anywhere.

Hmm, I think you're going to have a problem in "heaven" then!!!

For someone who touts that they use to be a Christian, and knows what the Bible says, makes your statement totally uncalled for.  Unless all you were doing was taking a verbal "spar" at Jcribb.

I took it as such.  Just a petty remark to try and rile me.  Doesn't bother me!

[jcribb16]

I got something for you guys, all of you people just believing in God to be safe i.e. not go to hell and/or see if he is there, this isn't true belief, You can't trick or fool God.

So if you just believe in God to be safe then that will put you in hell because you do it out of fear...You are not accepting him or wanting him, you are just afraid of what he will do to you.

So, no I think you need to really believe in God to get to heaven, not just pretend.

I'm not pretending.  My faith is real, genuine, loving and fearful (He is God, after all, and He expects me to live my life for Him. Sometimes that is very hard considering we all are sinners and human and get our own selves in trouble.  I'm glad He is forgiving, as well.)

[Annella]

I got something for you guys, all of you people just believing in God to be safe i.e. not go to hell and/or see if he is there, this isn't true belief, You can't trick or fool God.

So if you just believe in God to be safe then that will put you in hell because you do it out of fear...You are not accepting him or wanting him, you are just afraid of what he will do to you.

So, no I think you need to really believe in God to get to heaven, not just pretend.

How little you understand our hearts toward God.  We don't serve Him out of fear.  We reverence His power, but we serve Him because we LOVE him.  We also feel His love for us.  It's a personal relationship.  Maybe that's what mixes you up because you wanted to be a Christian for fear of hell.

Now...I'll admit, the thought of hell is terrifying, but I don't let that enter into my worship, and relationship with the lover of my soul.  We may come to Him in fear, but perfect love casteth out fear.  The more we know Him, live for Him, and realize how much he loves us, and made a way for us to escape, fear doesn't enter into it.

[shernajwine]

I think it's so amazing that the old testament is full of stories of people who loved God with all their heart. People like to say the God of the old testament is so cruel....but people lived in grace even then. David wrote so many hymns and praises to God, the God that some here have called a maniac. David loved God with all his heart and you can feel his heart pouring out in his psalms! 

The law was harsh but it showed the need for the Messiah. The law showed we can't be good enough, Jesus came so we could be righteous through Him and stand blameless before the throne of God! God is so good!

[jcribb16]

I think it's so amazing that the old testament is full of stories of people who loved God with all their heart. People like to say the God of the old testament is so cruel....but people lived in grace even then. David wrote so many hymns and praises to God, the God that some here have called a maniac. David loved God with all his heart and you can feel his heart pouring out in his psalms! 

The law was harsh but it showed the need for the Messiah. The law showed we can't be good enough, Jesus came so we could be righteous through Him and stand blameless before the throne of God! God is so good!

[bschumacher]

Hell is an exceptionally malicious human concept...just like our arrogant pettiness! If we want to be close to God's sunlight, we must rid ourselves of these vindictive notions and focus on being of service to our family, community, country, and world.

[shernajwine]

I've seen that picture, and it merely inspires awe at God and how big and awesome He is 

[Annella]

I've seen that picture, and it merely inspires awe at God and how big and awesome He is 

That it does!

[queenofnines]

You're right, I believed in God out of fear. There really is no reason for me to believe in something I am not sure exists or not but since the hell part of it is there, I just went ahead and believed so I never had to go to hell, just incase this God is the real God.

There are many empty threats/scams in the world, marie...don't fall for the biggest one.

[healthfreedom]

If a person does not believe in hell, then he/she does not really believe the Bible. Jesus taught more about hell than any other writer in the Bible.

[shernajwine]

marie, I am not sure about a lot of things but if you love God and want to know more about you. You will NOT go to hell. Even if you don't believe in heaven or hell, even if you don't understand everything in the bible. If you believe Jesus died for your sins, you are saved.

I say this, not in answer to WHY God would send anyone there but to help assure you that you don't have to fear it.

[shernajwine]

marie, I am not sure about a lot of things but if you love God and want to know more about you. You will NOT go to hell. Even if you don't believe in heaven or hell, even if you don't understand everything in the bible. If you believe Jesus died for your sins, you are saved.

I say this, not in answer to WHY God would send anyone there but to help assure you that you don't have to fear it.

I have been afraid I will go to hell for the longest time...it gets overwhelming sometimes. I wish I could like talk to God and ask him if I am going.

But I'm telling you, you are not going. How can I say that if I'm not God? Because I know what the bible says about salvation and according to that, you will not go to hell.