What do you think of Incest and the Bible?

[JessieKateRose]

I have to agree with Sflynt. You're the one arguing with everyone and deleting your own posts. It kind of says something when you're deleting your own posts even after people have responded to them.

Plus, when someone posts an opinion that hasn't been stated yet a proper response is not "OH MY GOD YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, WE GET IT." It's not as if either of us repeated ourselves in any way, shape, or form, and anyone with a brain could see that that is a very valid opinion with plenty of reason behind it. If you just want to flip when someone has a different opinion than you, then you should probably not be on forums like this.

[Annella]

Like you said, it's your opinion.  If your going to accuse me of running people off, I guess your prepared to tell me who?

I find it particularly humorous when Christians stand up for what they believe, then they are not behaving as Christians, or their weak, or they are not how Christians should act, ect.  What kind of yardstick are we to adhere to?  the Bible yardstick?  If someone doesn't believe the Bible or God for that matter, where does the measuring up to unbelievers standards come from?  Thing about it......it's a catch 22 for Christians.  It doesn't matter what we do or say, someone is going to have a problem with it.  Because I'm not some weak, mealy mouthed mamby pamby......what the unbelievers think a Christians place should be, then my love isn't showing?  

I apologized to you because I made a mistake.  Something Christians do when they realize they did something wrong, or offended someone (accidently in this case).  You basically threw it back in my teeth.  Whatever bone you want to chew on, or whatever has got you "ticked", is on you.  I've done what I'm suppose to do.

One of your posts here recently made the statement that good people will go to hell because they are unbelievers, and that the rapists and child molesters will go to heaven because they claim to be a Christian.  How in the world can you believe that?  God forbid!!    

[Annella]

I have to agree with Sflynt. You're the one arguing with everyone and deleting your own posts. It kind of says something when you're deleting your own posts even after people have responded to them.

Plus, when someone posts an opinion that hasn't been stated yet a proper response is not "OH MY GOD YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, WE GET IT." It's not as if either of us repeated ourselves in any way, shape, or form, and anyone with a brain could see that that is a very valid opinion with plenty of reason behind it. If you just want to flip when someone has a different opinion than you, then you should probably not be on forums like this.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if someone does not believe in the Bible or God, why should I try to give them scripture, or explain anything Biblical when they don't believe it?  Would you?  Wouldn't you be beating the air?

I have no idea what valid opinion you are talking about.....and with what plenty of reason behind what?  Your not making sense.

I deleted ONE post that I posted in error.  I told her I deleted it.  Now what other posts are you talking about that I've deleted?  If your going to throw accusations out there, be prepared to back it up with fact.

I can continue to be on this forum anytime I want.  When you become Admin. of Fusion Cash, then you can say who can, cannot, should, should not, be on this forum.  However, you don't have to read my posts.  

[sflynt]

haha classic response.

It is my opinion and only that. Take it how you want.

I also never said they would go to heaven because they claim to be christian. But if they(the criminals) are christian, and they've been saved, then all is forgiven, am I right? and that leads us to believe that they shall go to heaven, right? Thats what the christians teach us.

You've posted on here many many times what you believe and then just blasted people because of their beliefs and how many times they've stated their beliefs on here like "OKAY, WE GET IT"..so, what... its okay for you to but not okay for other people to do it?

You can stand up for your beliefs, you have every right to, but IMO you come across as high and mighty like you're better than everyone. Which was all too clear when you were so quick to run your mouth on my post. Since you were on your pedestal and probably felt like you were on a roll, didn't notice that you were blasting the wrong person.  You should take a better approach if you're trying to reach out to people.  It's quite obvious.

[Annella]

haha classic response.

It is my opinion and only that. Take it how you want.

I also never said they would go to heaven because they claim to be christian. But if they(the criminals) are christian, and they've been saved, then all is forgiven, am I right? and that leads us to believe that they shall go to heaven, right? Thats what the christians teach us.

You've posted on here many many times what you believe and then just blasted people because of their beliefs and how many times they've stated their beliefs on here like "OKAY, WE GET IT"..so, what... its okay for you to but not okay for other people to do it?

You can stand up for your beliefs, you have every right to, but IMO you come across as high and mighty like you're better than everyone. Which was all too clear when you were so quick to run your mouth on my post. Since you were on your pedestal and probably felt like you were on a roll, didn't notice that you were blasting the wrong person.  You should take a better approach if you're trying to reach out to people.  It's quite obvious.

What Christians have you been listening to?  There's no such thing as once saved, always saved.

You made the accusation twice that I've ran people off this forum, and I've asked you to provide me with some kind of proof or names.  If you can't, then it's a fabrication on your part, and your accusing me erroneously.

Your the one who keeps running their mouth about that post.  Get over it and move on.  I picture a hamster on one of those running wheels.  It just keeps going round and round and it goes nowhere.

Whatever opinion you have is just that....your opinion....everybody has one.  I have a counseling Appt. in an hour so I must get ready.

[tommygun2]

Why on earth would someone post such a question in the forum....................?

[sflynt]

Like you said, it's your opinion.  If your going to accuse me of running people off, I guess your prepared to tell me who?

I find it particularly humorous when Christians stand up for what they believe, then they are not behaving as Christians, or their weak, or they are not how Christians should act, ect.  What kind of yardstick are we to adhere to?  the Bible yardstick?  If someone doesn't believe the Bible or God for that matter, where does the measuring up to unbelievers standards come from?  Thing about it......it's a catch 22 for Christians.  It doesn't matter what we do or say, someone is going to have a problem with it.  Because I'm not some weak, mealy mouthed mamby pamby......what the unbelievers think a Christians place should be, then my love isn't showing?  

I apologized to you because I made a mistake.  Something Christians do when they realize they did something wrong, or offended someone (accidently in this case).  You basically threw it back in my teeth.  Whatever bone you want to chew on, or whatever has got you "ticked", is on you.  I've done what I'm suppose to do.

One of your posts here recently made the statement that good people will go to hell because they are unbelievers, and that the rapists and child molesters will go to heaven because they claim to be a Christian.  How in the world can you believe that?  God forbid!!    

What Christians have you been listening to?  There's no such thing as once saved, always saved.

You made the accusation twice that I've ran people off this forum, and I've asked you to provide me with some kind of proof or names.  If you can't, then it's a fabrication on your part, and your accusing me erroneously.

Your the one who keeps running their mouth about that post.  Get over it and move on.  I picture a hamster on one of those running wheels.  It just keeps going round and round and it goes nowhere.

Whatever opinion you have is just that....your opinion....everybody has one.  I have a counseling Appt. in an hour so I must get ready.

I never said you ran anyone off of this forum. Where did you get that? But you are one of the reasons why I don't believe anymore. Does that answer your question?  


I also never said, Once saved, always saved. But if they go to prison for raping small children and then find god while there, do they not go to heaven when they die? You have still yet to answer my question. You just keep side tracking everything.


Oh, I just don't want anyone to miss that post. It was beautiful.
and You really shouldn't delete your posts like that. It's not fair to those that missed it.

[Annella]

You are talking in circles, and I'm not side tracking anything.  Since you don't respect my opinion, why would you want me to answer anything?  However, if your wanting to know if someone who did wrong, repented, and was forgiven, will they go to Heaven?  If they continue to live their life for God from that time on, and not turn from it, yes. However, you can lose your Salvation, by turning your back on God and be lost, even after being saved.

That's too bad, I wouldn't let anyone separate me from the Lord I love.  Especially someone I didn't even know on some forum.  Your statement that I'm one of the reasons you don't believe anymore doesn't hold water.  That's just absurd.  I don't know you, and that excuse won't hold up when you stand before God.  We all will answer for our own selves.  If you can be swayed from God by anyone, then you have fallen into the oldest tricks that the enemy weaves.  Man will always fail because......we are imperfect and will fail.  We are to keep our eyes on God no matter what, as He is the one that matters. 

It's like saying:  "Well, I didn't like what that TV Preacher said, so I'm not going to be a Christian".  That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Something is very wrong.  You have bitterness, and you seem to resent someone or something very much.  You need to get with a spiritual counselor that you trust, or just "someone" you can trust (a family member?), and get whatever it is settled in your heart.  It may take forgiving someone that has hurt you terribly in your past.  I'm not saying this to be abusive or to hurl accusations.  I think I might represent something you have a lot of anger against.  Maybe your angry at God for something. 

[sflynt]

You're just one of the many reasons.

I don't love him because he's not there. and How can I be mad at something that isn't there? Even when I was a firm believer I never was angry at him. I just finally opened my eyes and realized that its all a bunch of lies. I am actually one of the most happy-go-lucky kind of person you'd ever meet. A big goofball if you will.

So they will go to heaven? that was my point. Why would I want to go to a place where rapists, murderers, and the like will be (if they've been saved)?  Not my kind of place.

I never disrespected your opinion...

and you came at me. You don't like it, then don't talk to me.

and please don't give me your psychobabble BS and try to act all sympathetic and caring. I don't buy it. Please, get off your high horse.

[Annella]

Ahhh....Now we finally get down to it.  You once believed.....but now you claim God doesn't exist, and it's all a bunch of lies.

Well, I'll not address you any further.
 

[queenofnines]

Ahhh....Now we finally get down to it.  You once believed.....but now you claim God doesn't exist, and it's all a bunch of lies.

Well, I'll not address you any further.

lol

@sflynt: Join the club, girl!  Because, you know, all of the millions of people who have wised up and left Christianity...we were just faking our belief in god the entire time, of course!  It must be true, because Annella says so!

http://www.godisimaginary.com/

[jcribb16]

Ahhh....Now we finally get down to it.  You once believed.....but now you claim God doesn't exist, and it's all a bunch of lies.

Well, I'll not address you any further.

lol

@sflynt: Join the club, girl!  Because, you know, all of the millions of people who have wised up and left Christianity...we were just faking our belief in god the entire time, of course!  It must be true, because Annella says so!

http://www.godisimaginary.com/
 

It's a shame, really.  It comes out you were faking your belief.  So your original claim to believe in God was fake - you didn't mean it; you weren't sincere?  I'm sorry to hear that.  My belief in God, from my original sincere belief in Christ, in July of 1971, was genuine and sincere. It is still genuine and sincere today.  I may not understand everything in God's world, but one day maybe I will, when in eternity with Him.  In the meantime, I love my Lord, study about my Lord, in His Word, and other books, introduce others to Him, try to answer questions (in the capability of knowledge that only humans have), and fellowship with other believers who also love Christ.

[Annella]

It's simple.  A lot of people "know" about the Lord, but don't actually "know" him, and come to the realization that He is real. A friend that sticketh closer than a brother.

When you really fall in love with Jesus, He binds you to Him with cords of spiritual love.  The more you live for Him, learn what He did, and why He did it, the stronger that love and bond gets, and the more He reveals himself to you, day by day.

Jcribb, I came to God only a year earlier than you did.  My life was so shattered, but God put the pieces of my worthless life back together, (a miracle). Only God can make a silk purse out of a sows ear.  He's in the miracle working business.

[sflynt]

Ahhh....Now we finally get down to it.  You once believed.....but now you claim God doesn't exist, and it's all a bunch of lies.

Well, I'll not address you any further.

lol

@sflynt: Join the club, girl!  Because, you know, all of the millions of people who have wised up and left Christianity...we were just faking our belief in god the entire time, of course!  It must be true, because Annella says so!

http://www.godisimaginary.com/

I guess so. Its sad, really, that its like that.

I have a question QO9, does she address you?

Ahhh....Now we finally get down to it.  You once believed.....but now you claim God doesn't exist, and it's all a bunch of lies.

Well, I'll not address you any further.

Sorry, That post made me chuckle. I envisioned your nose in the air while I read that.

[queenofnines]

It's a shame, really.  It comes out you were faking your belief.  So your original claim to believe in God was fake - you didn't mean it; you weren't sincere?  I'm sorry to hear that.

Um, read what I wrote again, jcribb.  I thought my sarcasm was pretty clear. 

I truly did believe in your god for a few years.  I got baptized.  I'd like my money back for all the tithes I paid.  I did crazy Christian things, like warn people of hell by writing on dollar bills. 

It is beyond ignorant of Christians to accuse ex-Christians of never having a true belief; that is my point.  Y'all don't have a clue of what you're talking about, so just stop.