God is a Fake

[wjd22011]

i find it odd that you say i have no self respect why did you say that what did i do?

I thought it was pretty clear why I said that, but since you didn't get it...I think it takes a lack of self-respect to reply in a childish manner like I saw you do multiple times on this thread.

alright im sorry

[Oceansound]

fALCONER 02-- You have not read my post clearly - I said that the mother would not allow the
child to touch the hot tea pot.  In the beginning of time - In Gensis ... God guarded the tree of
life that was in the middle of the forest so that Adam and Eve could not eat of it and why Because they has already been posessed by Satan and had  Satan in their spirit so if they did eat of the Tree of Life , Then death and evil would be forever.  Can you understand that God is a Loving God.
and protected us from the everlasting corruption.  You see it was when Jesus came and died for you that you
have been given ever lasting life.  You will die - sure - but you will live.  So now Death became Life when Jesus sacrificed for YOU -- He Loves YOU.  

[Falconer02]

You have not read my post clearly - I said that the mother would not allow the child to touch the hot tea pot.

But your god does allow for it. Ontop of that, he knows it's going to happen.

This-

Because they has already been posessed by Satan and had  Satan in their spirit so if they did eat of the Tree of Life , Then death and evil would be forever.

And this-

 Can you understand that God is a Loving God.

Make absolutely no sense at all. You don't need to create an evil antagonist if you're a loving person. A loving deity would have never had this happen in the first place. This story is a myth that ultimately makes no sense.

So now Death became Life when Jesus sacrificed for YOU -- He Loves YOU.

I'm not seeing your point in the original posts about free will. You seem to be skipping around it now.

[Oceansound]

FALCONER02 -- Adam and Eve had the knowledge of choice and of obiedence
 before they ate of the forbidden fruit.  When they ate they comsumed death
and evil from the Devil and then their bodies started to decay.  This is all Spiritualunderstanding.  God is not a father of material things. When they ate they did NOT receive the
knowledge of right and wrong - they already knew THAT ~ They received the spirit of sin and death and evil of which we all have.  Satan is the God of this world ever since but not for long !    You have a war inside of you and this war the Spiritual warfare in your soul. There is so much to
understand about God. And too much to teach you here all in one day.     

[Falconer02]

Okay if we're going to keep debating, just for reference I used to be a christian and had studied the bible decently. I just realized that it was wrong after I took a good look at reality and then at the tales in the bible (among other things). I do not believe in the myth of Adam and Eve and think it's quite perplexing on how many people still believe in it. I mean an angry jealous mass-murdering deity holds a grudge against his creations because of a woman made from a rib ate a piece of fruit from a magic tree because a talking snake told her to? I think you may understand my POV after reading that, but let's just entertain the idea-

Adam and Eve had the knowledge of choice and of obiedence before they ate of the forbidden fruit.

But not of right and wrong. It specifically says they got that after they ate the fruit, right? Genesis 3:22
"And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

You have a war inside of you and this war the Spiritual warfare in your soul.

My only war is in the defense of freethinkers and the spreading of healthy skepticism-- specifically in this case the argument that the biblegod is malevolent and does not allow for free will when you consider his powers. I still don't see you explaining how this is wrong. You just keep saying he's loving and kind, but everything you throw onto the table says differently.

[Oceansound]

Falconer02.. Everything is not understood by logic. It is not your reasoning that
makes this understandable -- Its your spiritual knowledge. 

God had the tree of life guarded so that they would not live forever in the evilstate of which they had consumed. Remember too,
everything has an opposite --  male/female left/right cold/hot black/white and
yes it makes one wonder, why would God have the tree of  of evil 
there in the first place.
 BUT the tree of death and evil was eaten first NOT the tree of life.So here too you have the polarity. death/life But where is it ? -- It was in the Garden. 

So Adam and Eve became lost and had not their origional spirit so God said to them
"Where are you..? " Now why would GOD say to anyone

"where are you ?"  God knows where everyone is..!  --He knows where you are and where
where I am AND where every human being is -- So Why ! then would God ask that..?
Answer.. That was for Adam AND Eve to know that they became LOST--running out of tape 

[winpigzfly]

I believe that God is truly real. Not because I was brought up in a Christian home but because I believe that there is something bigger than all of us out there. To think of ones self as a god is just the highest level of arrogance that there is and no one is that cool.     

[Falconer02]

Everything is not understood by logic. It is not your reasoning that makes this understandable -- Its your spiritual knowledge.

Okay, I hate to sound rude and I don't mean to be mean or anything, but from my POV this is the line between reality and fantasy. When you disregard reason in favor of 'spiritual knowledge'-- something that someone says they know but cannot explain at all-- I disregard it. Why? Because I can put anything in the place of spiritual knowledge and make it sound real. The friendly purple 2-headed dragon with a drinking problem in my garage who tells me not to follow major religions? Yeah, I can't explain it. You just have to have spiritual knowledge in order to know he's there and then you will understand. Invite him into your heart and he will help you understand how I feel!

"The argument for religion is infallible because it relies too much on the impossible"

yes it makes one wonder, why would God have the tree of  of evil there in the first place.

We've been through this. He's malevolent! lol

Unfortunately the rest of your post I have no idea what you're trying to get at.

[Oceansound]

Falcone02 - I explained it to you but you are not willing to see it.
Like I said before,  Look and you will see..! if you will not Look you will not see.
I already explained a lot of what I can over this forum and it's not easy to
do this for someone that does not have nor seeks spiritual knowledge.
 
If you never had a spiritual experience and never sensed your spiritual
self, then you are not spiritually awakened and you are really a mortal
human being.  I can not try and teach a mortal human being the things
of the spirit because he does not want to see and will not try to see
either. Lets just give it a rest. case closed for me. 

[Falconer02]

You have super powers that I don't possess. Gotcha. lol good talkin' to ya!   

[prtee33]

[thomassina]

The Fool has said in his/her heart that there is no God!... Psalm 14:1  I know for sure I'm no Fool! But in the words of Mr.T "I PITY THE FOOL!"

[wjd22011]

your dad is a troll

I'm just joking with you, dude.
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your a well rounded guy a good hearted, down to earth person 

[thedementedpianist]

Trolololo.
I think there's a God but I don't think he's very loving. I think he's more like the stressed out 14 year old playing the Sims.

By the way, I only read the first page. I can't be arsed to go through eight more.

[Falconer02]

Trolololo.
I think there's a God but I don't think he's very loving. I think he's more like the stressed out 14 year old playing the Sims.

Haha I'm glad you highlighted that pic. I forgot about it! And comparing the biblegod to a 14 year old playing the sims is a huge understatement to the evil that this god is portrayed as. If you pointlessly mod the game to allow horrifying suffering and then be a complete *bleep* to your Sims for absolutely no good reason at all, I think that's a bit more parallel.

I only read the first page. I can't be arsed to go through eight more.

Yeah that's pretty normal.