A God that knows the future but powerless to change it

[hitch0403]

I was browsing and i saw a member post this.

If God knew A&E were gonna sin then,why did he bother to warn them of penalty of sin=death?

If He knew all the time He would be powerless to control it then.Its like someone that has a good voice...are they singing all the time or can they choose when to sing?

With Jehovah he can choose when to see the future and when not to.

Its actually quite simple to understand but i understand why the atheists or enemys of God try,try and try.

[jcribb16]

Thank you for posting this.  It's a very popular question people want to understand about.  All I know is that God's way of thinking is higher than ours, and we don't see or know the full picture of what He's doing, except for what's written in His Word, from Genesis through Revelation.

[hitch0403]

JC..my pleasure to always put truth up about God.

The non-believers or enemys of Bible like to say also that Adam didnt die in the day he ate from the tree.But he did.They use mans timetable of 24 hr period.The bible says gods day is 1000 of our yrs.Adam died in the 900s.So he did die in the day he sinned.Gods day.

Anthony

But also let me add,even when you prove the truth and backing of bible the ignorant are so blind it still doesnt matter.You wanna reach the hearts of the meek and kind.NOT the ones that wanna debate or hate etc.

Anthony

[falcon9]

With Jehovah he can choose when to see the future and when not to.

So, your religiously-based claim is that your hypothetical egregore can "choose" when to blind itself, (much like a 'true believer' chooses to blind themselves with 'faith').

Its actually quite simple to understand but i understand why the atheists or enemys of God try,try and try.

There's nothing difficult about understanding blind faith; it's based upon belief and that has no evidentiary basis.  What's more unclear is how blind-faither can willingly engage in such self-deceptions.

[falcon9]

All I know is that God's way of thinking is higher than ours, and we don't see or know the full picture of what He's doing, except for what's written in His Word, from Genesis through Revelation.

All of that is specious religious opinion which continues to lack evidentiary basis.  Claiming to "know" what a hypothetical egregore's hypothetical 'thought processes' are based upon a dubious mythology is not exactly the height of reason.

[jcribb16]

All I know is that God's way of thinking is higher than ours, and we don't see or know the full picture of what He's doing, except for what's written in His Word, from Genesis through Revelation.

All of that is specious religious opinion which continues to lack evidentiary basis.  Claiming to "know" what a hypothetical egregore's hypothetical 'though processes' are based upon a dubious mythology is not exactly the height of reason.

What is your point?

[falcon9]

..my pleasure to always put truth up about God.

On the contrary, specious superstitious beliefs do not constitute "truth" in any form.  The a priori assumption you're making, (that 'g-d' exists), is not supported by valid evidence.  Belief is not evidence of the existance of what is believed in.  Faith is not evidence of what that faith is in.  The burden of proof rests with the claimant, (and not with the logical fallacy of attempting to 'prove g-d doesn't exist', nor with falsely attributed everything to 'g-d' since that's a circular argument).

But also let me add,even when you prove the truth and backing of bible the ignorant are so blind it still doesnt matter.

That doesn't constitute 'proof' because it's a circular reference, (e.g., referring to the source as evidence of the validity of the source is a logical fallacy).  The ignorance displayed here and lack of an ability to reason is yours, fundie.

You wanna reach the hearts of the meek and kind.NOT the ones that wanna debate or hate etc.

Your admission of intent to proselytize religious propaganda, aimed at the weak-willed, is duly noted for future reference, fundie.

[falcon9]

All I know is that God's way of thinking is higher than ours, and we don't see or know the full picture of what He's doing, except for what's written in His Word, from Genesis through Revelation.

All of that is specious religious opinion which continues to lack evidentiary basis.  Claiming to "know" what a hypothetical egregore's hypothetical 'thought processes' are based upon a dubious mythology is not exactly the height of reason.

What is your point?

That you may as well have claimed to "know" what a hypothetical invisible pink unicorn is 'thinking', (based upon a hypothetical 'book of the invisible pink unicorn'), as an equivalent self-deception.  What's your point; that you're free to deceive yourself and falsely believe that you're as free to attempt to deceive others without opposition?

[hitch0403]

Falcon9 would you agree with this....when you rub liniment on your body it smarts...correct?Try pouring some on your head!!

[falcon9]

Falcon9 would you agree with this....when you rub liniment on your body it smarts...correct?Try pouring some on your head!!

I don't use liniment oil and apparently you've never tried using it on your head.

[sigmapi1501]

Falcon, how dare you question the divine wisdom of the bible. It was written by rush limbaugh and glen beck. The constitution. Free will. America. Ill pray for you.

[falcon9]

Falcon, how dare you question the divine wisdom of the bible. It was written by rush limbaugh and glen beck. The constitution. Free will. America. Ill pray for you.

Do you mean there's some possibility of being turned into a 'pillar of pepper', (sounds better than salt, which is bad for the blood pressure)?
 

[jnjmolly]

I hate when people start post that are religious...Everyone has so many different beliefs and they should keep them to themselves! 

[falcon9]

I hate when people start post that are religious...Everyone has so many different beliefs and they should keep them to themselves! 

I completely agree; especially considering that, if it had been kept to themselves, there'd be no dissenting views posted in reply.  Such a simple concept and yet, it eludes the religious adherents of the xtian persuasion on a regular basis.

[tantricia44]

To me the saying,A god that knows the future but powerless to change it means there is No god!