Chick-fil-a

[falcon9]

Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.

Now hold on here, are you saying that every business has to support the gay movement to be tolerant?  That is not tolerance, that is other people (gays) telling us what to think. 

No particular business has to support the gay movement any more than any particular person has to support the xtian religion to be tolerant. Requiring non-xtians to tolerate xtianity is xtians telling other people what to think.

The intolerant part enters into the picture when a business bases its hiring/employment practices upon a vague religious superstition to the point of exclusions.  Remember, twelve lawsuits related to various types of employment discrimination have been filed against chick-fil-a so far, (some of these have been settled out of court, others are pending).

By the way, in that article you linked to, the founder said, "You don't have to be a Christian to work at Chick-fil-A"

Right, he pretty much has to claim that with those discrimination lawsuits still pending.  His company's discriminatory hiring/employment practices would likely make it extremely difficult for a wiccan or a satanist to work there, however.
 

And obviously they don't require you to be a Christian to eat at Chick-fil-A, so how exactly are they discriminating against non-Christians?  By acting like Christians?  Well, then gays who act like gays must be discriminating against straight people.  I don't think so.

You present a false dichotomy; it is like saying that cannibals are being discriminating against for being cannibals when people won't let them eat people.

"Chritianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
-- Thomas Jefferson

[darrell1960]

no dont understand enough to form a good opinion

[dmahoney]

1> way to go Narv and welcome to fushioncash.            2. what a horrible thing to say sigmapi. 

[sgluckadoo]

If you don't like the way a business operates, then dont be a patron there. Most fast food places have been sued for some form of discrimination. If we all take a stand on on what we find offensive, maybe all the fast food joints will disappear and we can enjoy more home cooked meals!

[falcon9]

If you don't like the way a business operates, then dont be a patron there. Most fast food places have been sued for some form of discrimination. If we all take a stand on on what we find offensive, maybe all the fast food joints will disappear and we can enjoy more home cooked meals!

I agree with the tacit suggestion to boycott chick-fil-a permemently.

[sgluckadoo]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

[falcon9]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

[sgluckadoo]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.

[falcon9]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.

Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here.  I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[sgluckadoo]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.

Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here.  I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.

[falcon9]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.

Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here.  I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.

I'll tell you what; look at the above link concerning a gender discrimination suit against chick-fil-a and I'll see if I can find the case you're referring to.  Acceptable?

[bowrunner]

These discrimination claims always turn out to be disgruntled employees that want to be paid for not working of which there is a whole lot of them in this day and age.  How about giving a days labor for a days wage and quite the whining.

[falcon9]

These discrimination claims always turn out to be disgruntled employees that want to be paid for not working of which there is a whole lot of them in this day and age.  How about giving a days labor for a days wage and quite the whining.

While this is probably true in even a majority of the discrimination suits filed, keep in mind that such discrimination can be hard to prove via hard evidence, (conflicting depositions can negate such being evidence in either direction).  In many such instances, the employer can fabricate an alternate explanation for terminating employment or, the employee may be fabricating the basis for termination as being discriminatory.  I will agree that, even in these times of high unemployment, some people are still so lazy that they seem to want to be paid for barely working.

[sgluckadoo]

I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.

Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?

There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.

Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here.  I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.

I'll tell you what; look at the above link concerning a gender discrimination suit against chick-fil-a and I'll see if I can find the case you're referring to.  Acceptable?

Oh, I believe discrimination happens pretty much everywhere, and for any reason, it is just a matter of companies getting caught and whether or not people are informed and care or not. Hardees has had suits brought for gender discrimination and for discriminating against the disabled (I think I am recalling this accurately).If the media showed every instance of this, people would probably be shocked and have nowhere to eat or shop!

 In the case of chick fil a, I have to say, the media has not emphasized discrimination law suits, so most non gay consumers see it as an issue of freedom of speech, while gay consumers see it as offensive/ intolerant, etc.  It makes you wonder what would have happened if the gay community had known discrimation suits existed before the head of Chick fil a publically announced his beliefs. It is getting all this attention now, but what about before the owner spoke about his beliefs? and what about other companies that get no media attention because they settle quietly, etc.  I think the lesson is, if discrimination of any sort matters to you then you shouldnt wait for the media to sensationalize it, rather you should research on your own and decide if you want to be a shopper at a given establishment, chances are most places would have a disappointing track record.

[falcon9]

Oh, I believe discrimination happens pretty much everywhere, and for any reason, it is just a matter of companies getting caught and whether or not people are informed and care or not. Hardees has had suits brought for gender discrimination and for discriminating against the disabled (I think I am recalling this accurately).If the media showed every instance of this, people would probably be shocked and have nowhere to eat or shop!

I agree that publicity can lead to more awareness of any given situation.  Most people are not generally inclined to search for instances of wrong-doing on a nominally random basis, (look at every company currently operating - worldwide?).  The emphasis of publicity normally occurs when some event engenders it, (such as in chick-fil-a's case{s}).

In the case of chick fil a, I have to say, the media has not emphasized discrimination law suits, so most non gay consumers see it as an issue of freedom of speech, while gay consumers see it as offensive/ intolerant, etc.  It makes you wonder what would have happened if the gay community had known discrimation suits existed before the head of Chick fil a publically announced his beliefs. It is getting all this attention now, but what about before the owner spoke about his beliefs? and what about other companies that get no media attention because they settle quietly, etc.  I think the lesson is, if discrimination of any sort matters to you then you shouldnt wait for the media to sensationalize it, rather you should research on your own and decide if you want to be a shopper at a given establishment, chances are most places would have a disappointing track record.

Given sufficient 'digging' into nearly any company, something is likely to turn up.  Whether or not news outlets find such results newsworthy is largely a subjective assessment which rests at least equally upon journalism and readership appeal/sales potential for advertisers.