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dreamyxo

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 10:00:39 am »
Blessed are those who travel a long way looking for a better way of life and find it....when the mayflower landed on these shores all who stepped off were illegals but yet they found a way to make it their home...many who were here were killed made into slaves or made to leave the areas they had always known, now many of those people whose ancestors were here in the beginning are returning to this land and these regions........your ancestors came they had children and they to hoped for a better way of life.......why would you try and deny a better life to anyone?????

Back then there were no immigration laws.  We have laws now and they are not being followed.  I have no problem with people moving here legally. I have a friend who is moving to the US this month from Europe.  She just finished her PHD and was offered a job so she did it legally.  She has a job already lined up that will support herself, pay taxes and contribute important medical research to society.  Oh and she speaks English because she came here two years ago to learn the language. 

She didn't come here on the sly hoping not the get caught.  She didn't come here expecting and demanding handouts, going on welfare and trying to game the system.  She didn't come here refusing not to learn the language of the dominant culture and expecting people to accommodate her.   There's a huge difference between people who follow the rules and those who willing break them and it's not fair to anyone here and we are having to pay for it.   

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 06:40:13 am »
So what do I have to do become an illegal immigrant? I could use the benefits.....

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 07:06:34 am »
ok 2 illegals have a baby in the U,S. children still belong to the parents unless that has changed to..send the family back and when the kid turns 18 or 21  the kid can choose to be a U.S. citizen then

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 08:46:58 am »
I understand the immigrants point of view but I also don't understand why the people in congress don't understand the meaning of the word illegal.  I pay my taxes...if I didn't I would be fined and put in jail.  Illegal immigrants don't have to pay a thing and they still get to enjoy the benefits of using our schools and roads.  It seems to me they have a better life here than most of the U.S. citizens do!   :BangHead:
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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 09:14:00 am »
ok 2 illegals have a baby in the U,S. children still belong to the parents unless that has changed to..send the family back and when the kid turns 18 or 21  the kid can choose to be a U.S. citizen then

I know a case of 2 illegals, the mom was sent to jail for whatever reason, the father was deported, they have 3 kids, born in the US, and the father sent for his kids to go back home with him, the US Child Protective Services for the state, fought in court for 2 years to keep the kids in the US due to the fact that they are US Citizens and the father did not "Live in conditions to american standards" to raise HIS kids.  Now you tell me who is to keep the children?  The children where in a Foster Home and the father was fighting to get them to go with him.

Who has the right to take the US citizens out of there country? that is what Child Protective Services said, "We went back to Mexico and saw that the father lives in a poor neighborhood and WE do not approve that US citizens live in that condition".  What gives the right to the US to say where and how you live in a different country.  They were using American Tax money to keep the kids in Foster Care when the Father was willing to take his kids to Mexico.

So my take is, if you want the children to stay then keep the parents and let them raised their own children, but do not put the children in the system and then say that illegals are taking $$ from the US.  If you are going to deport the illegals then let them take their kids, more often than not the Government is the one that do not let the kids GO with their parents because they are Citizens.

Illegals are not allowed to use welfare, stamps or any government money since they do not have documents for that for the most part, but I am in total agreement to give them some sort of documentation for them to stay legal, work and PROOF that they are going to follow the laws, if they get arrested or commit any crime they get sent back, the ones that stay after say 5 or 10 years they can start the process to get their "Green Card" go to the bottom of the list and wait whatever time the have to to get it.  Then wait another 5 years of good behavior to be Citizens.

Now the so called "Dreamers" are not at fault that their parents decided it to bring them to this country Illegally when they were little, most of them do not know any other country and the grand majority has finish school and some of them even gone to College and gotten degrees, Why can they not get some sort of amnesty or whatever?  They are the ones suffering for the decisions of their parents.  I know many of them that their parents have gotten legal papers due to whatever immigration process, and they have been left out because of Age.  They do not speak their language and they do not belong there or here.  What happens to them?  Let them get their papers as long as they have not committed any crimes and can be of use to the population.

Sometimes we need to see the bigger picture to see where things are going.

This is just my opinion and not trying to disagree or insult anyone, just MHO
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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 09:44:53 am »
I truly have to agree with you on that. They get all the help they ask for and anyone born and raised here has a real hard time getting any kind of help

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 10:10:55 am »
I was listening to the radio last week and heard about a bill to give illegal immigrants a valid state driver's license without questioning their residencey.  They could state that they weren't redients of the United States and get a license. Seriously?!? I am also curious as to why 'illegals' are given in state tuition instead of a ride back to their country of origin? Why are illegals allowed to go to our public schools? We are paying the taxes for the roads that people drive on and the schools that our kids go to...not a cent comes from people who are here illegally. Leave no child behind? Why don't we take care of the kids that are here legally first.

Oh, I feel ya!  Considering LEGAL AMERICANS MUST supply IDENTIFICATION for just about EVERYTHING we do here in ANY State, I agree with you 110%.  Look, if you want my personal opinion, the reason our government wants it this way is because these ILLEGALS will provide the Democratic Party with NEW VOTERS - NOTHING MORE.  Americans are getting screwed, so wake up and start yelling.. LOUDLY.  Write to your Congressmen, sign Petitions, and get these morons that are running our country in to the ground, OUT.

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2013, 12:08:46 pm »
I was listening to the radio last week and heard about a bill to give illegal immigrants a valid state driver's license without questioning their residencey.  They could state that they weren't redients of the United States and get a license. Seriously?!? I am also curious as to why 'illegals' are given in state tuition instead of a ride back to their country of origin? Why are illegals allowed to go to our public schools? We are paying the taxes for the roads that people drive on and the schools that our kids go to...not a cent comes from people who are here illegally. Leave no child behind? Why don't we take care of the kids that are here legally first.

Oh, have you hit the nail on the head!!!  I keep asking the same questions!!!!  I'm coming to the conclusion it's because our lawmakers are more interested in GETTING VOTES than they are in GETTING AMERICA BACK ON TRACK!!!!  Remember for every illegal they "give amnesty" to that is ONE MORE VOTE FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!  I say FIRE THEM ALL and LET'S START FRESH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 09:04:03 am »
Instead of taking care of the people born in the USA, the stupid politicians wants to freely give away something that Americans need.  How they can possibly give illegal drivers licenses is beyond me.  They keep cropping up everywhere to include the criminals, pedophiles and murders.
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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 03:07:44 pm »
I am going to sign up and vote out the idiots in the governments.

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2013, 05:11:31 pm »
The simple answer to the question is cheap labor for jobs that people don't want to do because they are either dirty or require manual labor or both.

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 05:50:01 pm »
It makes me so mad that all the illegal immigrants are getting away with all of this. They are ILLEGAL. They shouldn't be here. I don't understand either and I'm scared what is going to happen in the future.

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2013, 09:06:06 pm »
Don't you know, the term "illegal" has no meaning in the US Government (and anything related to it)? The term and consequences associated with doing something labeled as such is nothing but a myth when it comes to those who are "in power". The laws they write, the taxes they impose, the regulations, the acts, the executive orders, and so on don't apply to anyone who is on the side opposite to where The People are. That's not how it is supposed to be, that's not how the Founding Fathers had set up the new country yet The People have grown lazy, ignorant, and complacent allowing them to do whatever they damn well feel like. Voting gets you nowhere, since they control the outcomes. The only way to get things back on track, is the very thing the government is attacking right now.... your right to bear arms (which was set forth for this very reason)!

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2013, 10:09:24 pm »
   
       What do you mean by illegals? Many of then came in very legally...by legal ways!

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Re: What part of illegal am I not understanding?
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2013, 10:35:06 pm »
 :angry7:  america  is so mixed up now  so shutup...  but if obama wants this new amnesty bill he is retarded :P

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