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Falconer02

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2013, 11:22:36 am »
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Besides I was taught that only God can judge you no human has that power.

People judge people all the time though. Heck, you can judge any god you want as well!

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2013, 08:25:46 am »
I'm an atheist and I'm married, so no, personal religious superstitions have no bearing on this conversation. If marriage was a religious institution, I wouldn't have been able to get married. It's a contract between you and the person you decide to marry. So, if homosexuals want to be married, they should not be prevented from doing so. It's just pure and simple discrimination otherwise.

As has already been pointed out, unless you're willing to adhere to everything your religious texts say, like stoning rebellious children, you're cherry-picking, which means I can disregard your viewpoint as a load of  :bs:

 

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2013, 08:33:41 am »
I think most gay marriage will probably last longer than straight marriages because gay people have to fight the odds to get married. Their getting
married because they really want to not like most of the straight people who are just getting married because they think they should or their parents
are pushing them into it.  :angry7:

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2013, 01:08:18 am »
I do not feel that gay marriage is a immoral issue. I believe that instances in the Bible that speak against it have been misinterpreted over the years. For instance, What Paul talks about in Romans (I think) deals with more of a social structure than anything to do with sexuality. In fact, the term homosexuality was not even existent back during these days. It is known through Roman writings and other archaeological information that gay couples were indeed fluent and accepted amongst the society as long as one came from more of a dominant family and one came from more of a submissive family. The issue of Sodom and Gomorrah deals more with gang rape than any issue of sexuality. I think it simply comes down to the fact that people fear what they do not know, and label it as sin, the devil, you name it. I am studying to be a counselor in a local seminary and I assure you that gay marriage will NOT bring forth famine, pestilence, earthquakes and the anti-christ. If you study history a bit, the same things were being said over the ending of slavery, women gaining the right to vote and desegregation. Face it, there are people, Christians included, that live their lives against things that are stated in the Bible (if you interpret those things literally.) Plus, you go Old Testament and we shouldn't even be playing football...

I think sometimes common sense needs to be applied in studying spiritual truths. I think a monogamous relationship, no matter what two individuals are involved, is a beautiful and highly spiritual experience. For those who are stuck on literal intepretations of the the Bible, I would simply bring up something that Jesus said himself: "Think not that I have come to destroy the law and the prophets. I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Just think about it.

The "devil" is not in those that think and act differently than us. The "devil" is the fear we have in those that think and act differently than us.   


The Bible very clearly states that God considers Homosexuality a sin. (Going so far as to call it an abomination)In several passages of both the Old & New Testament. So,regardless how one might feel on the issue,I don't think anyone can honestly say with a straight face that God condones the practice.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2013, 01:10:34 am »

As has already been pointed out, unless you're willing to adhere to everything your religious texts say, like stoning rebellious children, you're cherry-picking, which means I can disregard your viewpoint as a load of  :bs:

 

It's not a case of "cherry picking",but of reading the scripture in historical and cultural context.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2013, 09:15:13 am »
I don't have a issue with gays getting married.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2013, 07:25:53 pm »
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The Bible very clearly states that God considers Homosexuality a sin. (Going so far as to call it an abomination)In several passages of both the Old & New Testament. So,regardless how one might feel on the issue,I don't think anyone can honestly say with a straight face that God condones the practice.

So this god creates homosexuality, makes it natural behavior throughout the animal kingdom that (in many cases) actually benefit groups of animals, and then condemns it a couple thousand years ago. Illogical.

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It's not a case of "cherry picking",but of reading the scripture in historical and cultural context.

And since we don't stone children anymore due to historical and cultural context, we should also learn to shed such bigoted beliefs in condemning people for loving each other.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2013, 10:33:29 pm »
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And since we don't stone children anymore due to historical and cultural context, we should also learn to shed such bigoted beliefs in condemning people for loving each other.

But, but but... bu "Adam and EVE, not Adam and STEVE...   durrrrrrrr"

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2013, 11:59:24 pm »
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But, but but... bu "Adam and EVE, not Adam and STEVE...   durrrrrrrr"

I'd expect such answers from JediJohnnie, but you!? lol

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2013, 12:18:31 am »
There is an inherent difference between the regulations God gave the nation of Israel to set them apart from the heathen nations that surrounded them and the laws against perversion.If you can't see the difference for yourself,it's doubtful there's anything I can say to convince you otherwise. :dontknow:

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2013, 12:42:12 am »
live and let live it does not matter what one does if they are not saved anyway. god is more understanding then we realize anyway i have my hands full dealing with my own sins to worry about someone elses conduct which they may have already taken to god

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2013, 08:55:14 am »
I am totally against it.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2013, 05:56:11 pm »
I am totally against it.

I wasn't expecting this considering your gay name.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2013, 04:31:21 pm »
I am totally against it.

I wasn't expecting this considering your gay name.

Way to get people on your side!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2013, 08:22:17 am »
I am totally against it.

I wasn't expecting this considering your gay name.

Way to get people on your side!  :thumbsup:

Someone "totally against" someone having the same rights as them deserves ridicule. You're not going to sway someone that can't grasp something as basic as that. Right is right. An individuals hurt feelings does not compare to fellow human beings being treated as second class citizens.

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