Do you agree or disagree with the (99 %)?

[lynnc35]

I think this country needs some major change. I was reviewing the charts and see where the tax income for the poor and middle class has been on the rise since the 70's and when you look at the line that shows for the rich, it hasn't hardly moved at all. Another wards they are paying the same taxes they paid in the 70's while making more and more money, and middle class and poor are paying more, so we are basically supporting them, add to that bailing out their banks, buying their cars, paying their mortgages, when will this end?

[sarabtrayior]

I don't know... living is challenging whether you are the 1% or the 99%.

[kalinowski]

I think this country needs some major change. I was reviewing the charts and see where the tax income for the poor and middle class has been on the rise since the 70's and when you look at the line that shows for the rich, it hasn't hardly moved at all. Another wards they are paying the same taxes they paid in the 70's while making more and more money, and middle class and poor are paying more, so we are basically supporting them, add to that bailing out their banks, buying their cars, paying their , when will this end?

i agree with you on that

[Abrupt]

What should the rate they pay matter?  Personally I say we should all pay the same rate regardless of income, after all that is only fair and only under such a system will everyone have skin in the game.  After all it is easy to "buy votes" with claiming to raise taxes when the bottom 47% pay no taxes at all.  Democracies have historically become Oligarchies through divisive methods such as these...fortunately we are not a democracy but even in a Republic such as ours such can be used as tools for votes to corrode at our very foundation (and has happened quite a bit since the founding).

The top 1% pay 36% of the taxes, the top 5% pay 58% of the taxes, the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes, the top 25% pay 87% of the taxes, and the top 50% pay 97.7% of the taxes.  You are falling victim to this class warfare tactic that is being deliberately used to get you to feel hostility towards your fellow Americans.  When your elected leaders, charged with protecting All Americans are intentionally trying to turn you against other Americans you should readily take notice and rally against such activities.

This 99% you speak of is a fallacy and a tool constructed by the liberals/socialists/anarchists to try and covey strength and consensus by taking a segment of the population that is not the top 1% and presenting them as if they are some how in agreement with each other -- make no mistake they are not.  I am against everything this so called 99% stands for and I am not in the 1% and have never been in the 1%.  I consider these liberals/socialists/anarchists to be my enemies and enemies of the US.  Their aims serve no other purpose but to bring down our nation or to gain personal advance as beggars without having to actually undergo the humiliation of begging (they want to victimize the industrious and portray the lazy and worthless as victims).  I have far too much pride in myself and my abilities to every follow any such movement.  If the lines are ever formed the 99% will see me on the other side in contention...they can recognize me by my large and proud stature, my simple and efficient attire, and my massive spiked club.

[southernhorizons]

Thank you, Abrupt, for a very good patriotic explanation. I agree with you 100%. The most afir taxation system would be to have one set rate regardless of income, with no loopholes. That would allow anyone to pursue the American Dream.
I just submitted a letter to the editor in a local paper, explaining how the Ocuupy Wall street movement is Communist. They are following the same pattern as the so-called people in most of the other countries that succumbed to Communism, especially Russia and China. I hope the American people wake up before we start having a revolution which will destroy our republic.

[vmcutshall]

I agree with the fact that everyone should pay the same rate and with no loopholes. It is one of the ways we can stabilize our economy.

[tuffys_daughtr]

Pro and for the 99% all the way. I've had only part time and temporary work for over 2 years now. My family has helped me out tremendously. I believe our country is on the way to communist, but not because of the Occupy movements, the gov't dictates just about everything we can and can not do anymore. I'm am in total support of the Occupy-ists, except those who aren't peaceful. A certain Republican caused me to recently get laid off by putting a halt to the work we were doing. I most definitely think the rich need to pay their share...and then some to make up for all the past years. If I was rich, I'd want it to be that way too.

[wittylance]

I think everyone should pay the same amount of taxes but I am not really good with understanding it all.  I do know single men pay higher taxes than women when it comes to our pay checks.  So I really don't know. I think the government charges to much taxes on everything anyway they could cut the budget by cutting all there elaberate exspesses.

[Abrupt]

Pro and for the 99% all the way. I've had only part time and temporary work for over 2 years now. My family has helped me out tremendously. I believe our country is on the way to communist, but not because of the Occupy movements, the gov't dictates just about everything we can and can not do anymore. I'm am in total support of the Occupy-ists, except those who aren't peaceful. A certain Republican caused me to recently get laid off by putting a halt to the work we were doing. I most definitely think the rich need to pay their share...and then some to make up for all the past years. If I was rich, I'd want it to be that way too.

So basically you say the fault lies with the government.  You hint at a fear of us becoming communistic.  You then say you side with the communists and are in direct opposition to the capitalists.  I don't understand you, instead of rightfully blaming the government for its abuses and intrusions you blame hardworking Americans for their efforts.  Virtually all of the fault with the economy right now lies with the socialistic aspects of our government and its continuing hunger to intrude in our lives and dictate our every action -- instead of blaming and holding them accountable you instead focus on the few Americans who have enough ingenuity to still thrive under such constraints.

[joseadam]

I totally agree with you!!! I think the rich man is getting richer and the poor man is getting poorer!!! I am tired of it also!!

[Linda67]

I saw an article in the paper this morning that said they want to close down the big banks.  I'm afraid all that would accomplish is putting thousands of bank employees in the unemployent line too.  They are the ones that would be hurt by that.

[kangagirl1321]

dude i really dont know how we are going to change this. i dont even know if obama should be elected for a 2nd term. i really dont. people are stupid and the rich should be taxed ..us poor people and middle class people dont have money to pay taxes to begin with so we work under the table so we dont get taxed. we need as much money as possible so we can survive.

[hawkeye3210]

I think this country needs some major change. I was reviewing the charts and see where the tax income for the poor and middle class has been on the rise since the 70's and when you look at the line that shows for the rich, it hasn't hardly moved at all. Another wards they are paying the same taxes they paid in the 70's while making more and more money, and middle class and poor are paying more, so we are basically supporting them, add to that bailing out their banks, buying their cars, paying their mortgages, when will this end?

Not sure what you were looking at, but all income tax rates are down from the 70's and that includes middle and lower class.  It's certainly not on the rise.

[Abrupt]

dude i really dont know how we are going to change this. i dont even know if obama should be elected for a 2nd term. i really dont. people are stupid and the rich should be taxed ..us poor people and middle class people dont have money to pay taxes to begin with so we work under the table so we dont get taxed. we need as much money as possible so we can survive.

One thing I stress is that the tax system be somehow equal among all people.  You must realize the unfairness that can come about when taxing certain people disproportionately from others.  You can effective buy votes that way and leverage class warfare (which is happening now).  It would be one thing if taxes were increased proportionately but when you just increase/decrease on a certain group you are positioning our votes to be corruptible (after all one could say "elect me and I will remove all your taxes and tax the other guys 50%" and as long as their are more from your group than the other group you can buy an election that way without spending a dime.  Now I am not saying we cannot have different base tax rates, but I am saying that if it is decided that taxes have to be increased then this rate, say 10% for instance, must be applied to the poor as well as the rich.  For those that don't pay taxes and receive benefits they must have their benefits reduced by the same %.  This is the only way that fairness can be maintained while having different levels of base taxation.  It also makes it impossible to levy class warfare based off of tax rates and impossible to buy votes with a taxing scheme.

[bowrunner]

I agree with Abrupt 100%.  If these people really wanted a job they wouldn't be out there trying to take from someone else.  Where do they think the jobs come from?  The companies that are being taxed to death and regulated to death are closing down or moving overseas.  Gee I wonder why!!