This topic is locked, no replies allowed. Inaccurate or out-of-date info may be present.

  • Print

Topic: Goverment  (Read 799 times)

falcon9

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Platinum Member
  • *********
  • Logic ticks people off - isn't that ironic?
  • Posts: 9741 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 10:35:03 pm »
"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."
[/quote]

So what does this mean exactly, please answer without flaming me  :binkybaby:

It could mean that the Electoral College currently elects U.S. presidents.  Why would I "flame" you for asking a question?
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             


teflonfanatic

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • praise Jah
  • Posts: 701 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 11:52:05 am »
"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."

So what does this mean exactly, please answer without flaming me  :binkybaby:

It could mean that the Electoral College currently elects U.S. presidents.  Why would I "flame" you for asking a question?
[/quote]

You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?

Abrupt

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Silver Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1034 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2012, 12:56:51 pm »
You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?

The electoral college votes are the only ones that are actually counted.
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

teflonfanatic

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • praise Jah
  • Posts: 701 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2012, 06:41:57 pm »
You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?

The electoral college votes are the only ones that are actually counted.

? so is the electoral college the citizens or no  ???

floorlady

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 40 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2012, 07:36:48 pm »
Do you think President Obama should be voted in fo office again for the next three consecutive years? Yes  or No and why?



Should he be voted in to office, well that question cannot be answered without first considering who really votes the president in and how little difference it really makes when a new president is elected. I personally would love to see Ron Paul as the president but I know that will not happen because 'they' simply will not allow it. To answer your question, it doesn't matter but the American public should see what kind of 'change' they will get from him.

Falconer02

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Gold Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 3108 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 90x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2012, 07:54:41 pm »
Quote
so is the electoral college the citizens or no

http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 08:00:38 pm by Falconer02 »

falcon9

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Platinum Member
  • *********
  • Logic ticks people off - isn't that ironic?
  • Posts: 9741 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2012, 09:15:56 pm »
Quote
so is the electoral college the citizens or no

http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm

"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."

One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

teflonfanatic

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • praise Jah
  • Posts: 701 (since 2009)
  • Thanked: 2x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2012, 11:59:39 am »
Quote
so is the electoral college the citizens or no

http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm

"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."



So votes from citizens are like raffle tickets? Increases the chance of them winning the electoral vote prize?

Abrupt

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Silver Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1034 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2012, 12:24:07 pm »
Quote
so is the electoral college the citizens or no

http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm

"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."



So votes from citizens are like raffle tickets? Increases the chance of them winning the electoral vote prize?

"It is important to remember that the President is not chosen by a nation-wide popular vote. The electoral vote totals determine the winner, not the statistical plurality or majority a candidate may have in the nation-wide vote totals. Electoral votes are awarded on the basis of the popular vote in each State.

Note that 48 out of the 50 States award electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis (as does DC). For example, all 55 of California's electoral votes go to the winner of that State election, even if the margin of victory is only 50.1 percent to 49.9 percent.

In a multi-candidate race where candidates have strong regional appeal, as in 1824, it is quite possible that a candidate who collects the most votes on a nation-wide basis will not win the electoral vote. In a two-candidate race, that is less likely to occur. But it did occur in the Hayes/Tilden election of 1876 and the Harrison/Cleveland election of 1888 due to the statistical disparity between vote totals in individual State elections and the national vote totals. This also occured in the 2000 presidential election, where George W. Bush received fewer popular votes than Albert Gore Jr., but received a majority of electoral votes."

source:http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

greenworld12

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 161 (since 2012)
  • Thanked: 8x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2012, 08:05:29 pm »
I agree that Government wastes taxpayers money.  The Government is mis-managed and has been for years.  I think we need a man like Bloomberg in office.  At least he has financial background.

vickysue

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Gold Member
  • ********
  • Posts: 2270 (since 2011)
  • Thanked: 70x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2012, 07:40:51 pm »
Well i don't see where he has followed through on almost anything he promised, except blame other people. I don't know if any of the rep. that are running are any better, but we don't need 4 more years of this .

GramPolly3

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 350 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 1x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2012, 08:28:55 pm »
When he is elected for his next term it will be for four years, not three.

healthfreedom

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Elite Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 911 (since 2010)
  • Thanked: 12x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 07:08:26 am »
A serious voter who looks at the accomplishments of the present administration would not even consider keeping the status quo. We need new blood in the white house to turn this country around.

gettisbrooks

    US flag
    View Profile
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 59 (since 2012)
  • Thanked: 0x
Re: Goverment
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 11:11:48 am »
 :) Yes, The American people have to give him a chance to do what he said he was going to do. Like the rest of the other Presidents :peace:
Mrs. Gettis-Brooks

  • Print
 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
6 Replies
594 Views
Last post February 21, 2010, 11:03:49 am
by Dremarr
0 Replies
562 Views
Last post January 14, 2011, 12:29:47 pm
by kin5718
9 Replies
807 Views
Last post October 15, 2011, 05:02:06 pm
by falcon9
1 Replies
134 Views
Last post February 12, 2012, 07:16:31 pm
by falcon9
11 Replies
193 Views
Last post December 08, 2012, 06:08:00 am
by ssliva67