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flex04

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Your Opinion on the HEALTH CARE
« on: August 21, 2009, 01:53:49 am »
They want Health Care to take over America. How is that? Well the Health Care will be run my the GOVERNMENT  and not by the PEOPLE (Americans = We the People, Constitution - FREEDOM). If they put up the Health Care, the government will Own You, me and America. - No FREEDOM !

HEALTH CARE = NO FREEDOM

PLEASE READ THE CONSTITUTION !!!!!!!!!!!

AMERICAN PEOPLE RUN THE GOVERNMENT

***NOT*** THE GOVERNMENT RUN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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Re: Your Opinion on the HEALTH CARE
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 02:30:50 am »
I am torn on were I stand on this issue as so many people are without healthcare.

And the under-insured (me). I pay a lot in premiums but when I go for routine exams related to controlling my hypertension, some of the labs are very expensive not to mention the meds (even with a copay).

I have Aetna and once again its too dang expensive.

Do I want our government to pay for healthcare?

I think it would help a lot of people, but the cost is too high. OMG political questions get under my skin.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 04:02:19 pm »
I am torn on were I stand on this issue as so many people are without healthcare.

And the under-insured (me). I pay a lot in premiums but when I go for routine exams related to controlling my hypertension, some of the labs are very expensive not to mention the meds (even with a copay).

I have Aetna and once again its too dang expensive.

Do I want our government to pay for healthcare?

I think it would help a lot of people, but the cost is too high. OMG political questions get under my skin.

I agree that insurance premiums are too high, and treatments, etc are not covered enough but I would rather keep what I have than have a 1 policy for all.  I am sorry for those who are not insured, however each state should have assisted programs for the uninsurable or those who cannot afford it.

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Re: Your Opinion on the HEALTH CARE
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 04:15:06 pm »
The system is broken and needs to be changed.  What's wrong with everyone having access to adequate health care?  What's the crime in that.  Every day people are going bankrupt because of high medical bills.  No one thinks something is wrong with that picture?  A healthy society will only benefit society.  I don't know the answers but I know something should change.  There are too many greedy entities getting rich off of people's suffering.

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 05:03:01 pm »
The current system is broken.  We need a public option (note the "option" part, that means you don't have to use it if you don't want to.)  Every other Western government has some type of government run healthcare, except for the US.  It's time we got with the picture.

We're the richest country on earth, and yet 43 million Americans can't even afford basic healthcare.  Meanwhile, insurance companies are making record profits.  How is that morally acceptable?

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 10:25:14 pm »
You should really do a bit more reading on the subject if your only thought on the entire issue is "GOVERNMENT = NO FREEDOM.  IF WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT RUN OPTION WE'LL TURN IN TO THE USSR UNDER STALIN!"

Plain, boring ole fear mongering nonsense.  Plain, boring ole ignorance of the big picture and details.  If you truly believe the debate is that simple, you really have no business commenting on it until you do some more research...
« Last Edit: August 28, 2009, 10:29:01 pm by liljp617 »

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 12:28:42 am »
The current system is broken.  We need a public option (note the "option" part, that means you don't have to use it if you don't want to.) Every other Western government has some type of government run healthcare, except for the US.  It's time we got with the picture.

We're the richest country on earth, and yet 43 million Americans can't even afford basic healthcare.  Meanwhile, insurance companies are making record profits.  How is that morally acceptable?

Newsflash!  America is not the best in the world in many many ways any more partly because they refuse to change and rise to the level of other industrialized countries (heath care,vacation, maternity/family leave, childcare among other issues) .  Many other countries enjoy a much better standard of living than we do. 
You should really do a bit more reading on the subject if your only thought on the entire issue is "GOVERNMENT = NO FREEDOM.  IF WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT RUN OPTION WE'LL TURN IN TO THE USSR UNDER STALIN!"

Plain, boring ole fear mongering nonsense.  Plain, boring ole ignorance of the big picture and details.  If you truly believe the debate is that simple, you really have no business commenting on it until you do some more research...

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 05:54:45 am »
I do not see anything wrong with government run healthcare at all.  Other options have been needed for decades.  The government run health care is simply another option in addition to what is out there today. There is so much misinformation out there.  The healthcare changes are designed to give people more choices, cut costs and have access to better healthcare. People keep spreading out and out false information based on fear and anger.  Not sure what they are afraid of or why they are so angry?

The current situation cannot continue.  The insurance companies are more interested in profit and pleasing their shareholders than anything else.  They want their business to continue as it always has, but it will be changing.  The insurance companies can either change based on what will be happening with healthcare in the near future or they will not be able to continue doing business as is.  Providing reasonable, quality healthcare is only secondary to insurance companies, as it stands today.   As time has gone by, the insurance companies have been shifting more and more costs to the consumer.  If you have plenty of money, you can have great health care.  If you are like many Americans, you are not getting the health care you need and deserve.  I have been very displeased with my insurance company with the level of service, coverage and care they are providing.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2009, 10:26:19 am by rcbrad »

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2009, 06:14:00 am »
First of all, I think we all need to agree that health care is not a right.  I know people think that sounds so mean, but it's true.  After saying that though, no Dr. in the US can refuse a patient who has health needs. 

Tort reform is a must in changing anything in health care.

Reducing regulations would also help.  I cannot look for health insurance companies outside of the state I live in.  Why not?  I think I could get more competitive rates if I could.  I don't want a plan with mental health benefits or maternity care.  I would like to just get what I need like with my car insurance. 

I have a special health insurance plan for my son who has type 1 diabetes.  I end up spending a lot of money out of pocket for his medications, but he's my son and I pay for everything.  For me, it's just part of life...it all gets put in the monthly budget.  Do I have to work harder and make more money?  Of course, but that's part of life.

I also buy and pay for my own insurance plan.  I don't get it through an employer.  I think of it as part of my cost of living and it has a higher priority than my cell phone or cable.  I know for a fact there are people who can afford health insurance, but feel like it should just be provided to them.  These are the same people who spend $200/month on cable.  It's all about priorities.  The problem is when that person does have a health problem, we all end up paying for it. 

Personal responsibility goes a long way.

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2009, 07:43:59 am »
I think the Health Care issue is one that needs to be addressed. However, I do not think our current Administration should be in control of the Health Care Reform. The changes that are being reviewed do not assist our Country as a whole. For example, if a person is diagnosed with cancer and the government decides that he or she does not have a chance to overcome the cancer or has a life expentancy of at least 5 years then the treatment will not be provided. I do not think that is a decision that should be made by our government. The government, the doctors and even the person diagnosed does not know his or her outcome with treatment. Statistics may help evaluate the outcome but it is not guaranteed. Only GOD knows the outcome. In simpler terms, an individual should have the right to choose whether he or she wants to seek treatment in an effort to preserve his or her life. He or she may or may not live as expected but as a result of humanity he or she has a right to fight!

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Re: Your Opinion on the HEALTH CARE
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2009, 08:04:52 am »
With a public option (again, note the OPTION part,) if you don't want to be on the government's medical plan, you're more than welcome to stay with a private insurer.  Everyone saying that your healthcare will be rationed/the government will tell you what to do/is going to kill granny/etc is not paying attention, to say the least.

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For example, if a person is diagnosed with cancer and the government decides that he or she does not have a chance to overcome the cancer or has a life expentancy of at least 5 years then the treatment will not be provided. I do not think that is a decision that should be made by our government. The government, the doctors and even the person diagnosed does not know his or her outcome with treatment. Statistics may help evaluate the outcome but it is not guaranteed. Only GOD knows the outcome. In simpler terms, an individual should have the right to choose whether he or she wants to seek treatment in an effort to preserve his or her life. He or she may or may not live as expected but as a result of humanity he or she has a right to fight!

Do you have any proof to support this claim?

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2009, 08:56:53 am »
White I agree with this "You should really do a bit more reading on the subject if your only thought on the entire issue is "GOVERNMENT = NO FREEDOM.  IF WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT RUN OPTION WE'LL TURN IN TO THE USSR UNDER STALIN!"" I really think that government run healthcare is not a good solution at all.

Even if the current system is broken, government healthcare is not a good solution.
Some of us have been going to the same doctors for our whole lives and we may not be able to stay with them under government healthcare.
Taxes will go up up up.
We'll al be on a waiting list to go to the doctor's.

We can repair the system without making the whole thing government run.
If there was a government run healthcare OPTION, as suggested above, that would be good.

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 09:04:46 am »
I think the Health Care issue is one that needs to be addressed. However, I do not think our current Administration should be in control of the Health Care Reform. The changes that are being reviewed do not assist our Country as a whole. For example, if a person is diagnosed with cancer and the government decides that he or she does not have a chance to overcome the cancer or has a life expentancy of at least 5 years then the treatment will not be provided. I do not think that is a decision that should be made by our government. The government, the doctors and even the person diagnosed does not know his or her outcome with treatment. Statistics may help evaluate the outcome but it is not guaranteed. Only GOD knows the outcome. In simpler terms, an individual should have the right to choose whether he or she wants to seek treatment in an effort to preserve his or her life. He or she may or may not live as expected but as a result of humanity he or she has a right to fight!

Here is a prime example of false/misinformation that sooo many people have all wrong.  This is not true at all! This has come from the media/lobbyists with an agenda/people that are angry or afraid and/or who want to keep things at the status quo.  You can not really blame people too much as there is so much information (true and false) out there which causes people to not know what to believe.   Part of the problem is that the administration involved in making the changes has done a poor job of informing the public of the facts.  My intent is to make you feel better, as the government will NOT be ending peoples lives!
« Last Edit: August 29, 2009, 09:06:55 am by rcbrad »

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Re: Your Opinion on the HEALTH CARE
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 09:53:35 am »
I am of two minds on the subject as well.  For many years I had insurance from the company I work with.  I am in good health but haven't been able to get insurance even at a high premium and a huge deductible.  I don't worry too much about the little doctors visits but the big misfortune and the high cosst of prescriptions scares me alot.  Even a small hospital stay would bankrupt me with out insurance.  I am going to really read all of the messages here and see what I can learn.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 10:15:43 am »
Do you also oppose state and federally run education institutions?  Social security?  Medicare/Medicaid?  The national post office/system?  The interstates across the country?  Federal funding to just about every single thing that goes on in this country.

The list goes on and on.

If you oppose a government run option for healthcare on the basis of "IF THE GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE FREEDOMS!!!," surely you oppose the government run systems above and countless others, yes?

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