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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2010, 01:15:32 pm »
WELL.... the bum at the liquor store said he made the world so i guess he does

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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2010, 01:21:55 pm »
I don't really know anymore. We are quickly losing our grip on "ownership" due to our debt problem, needing China of all countries to bail us out, and outsourcing of our jobs causing a huge unemployment expense. Add to that the fact that good old Made in USA goods are hard to come by to invest in and give us some breathing room, and that pretty much leaves us right where we are.... It didn't happen overnight and it won't be fixed overnight. Hold on and do what you can to help bail ourselves out I guess.

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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 02:32:01 pm »
Well I would ask you the same :) I would just do my best not to by the products that support the slavery and loss of our own land, and then I would  just work to educate others about the traitors in the white house who raise a communist flag and fund socialist programs.
Man.....seems like I've heard this all before.......hummmmm...think think.........

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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2010, 02:34:15 pm »
??? ??? ??? ??? That's a funny question, because we really can't own anything.. just take care of it, while we are alive !!!!
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 02:41:09 pm »
None of this matters there is a global atrocity at hand. This is the beginning of the end of the world as we have known it. 
No Way.....you are not saying that the US government would be complicit in forcing people to assimilate into a culture that is completely foreign to them?


And if they did.......just by chance ya know......then I guess you think everyone would forever more look down their collective noses and tell you you should "just get over it already!!!"

Naaa....that would never happen.........

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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 02:43:17 pm »
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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2010, 02:46:29 pm »
Well we technically are owned by China since we owe them so much money and will never be able to repay the debt at the rate we are going! If they call in that debt any time soon we may as well hang our new flags and hide our girls!
Naaaaa....Chinese girls are a lot hotter then most American girls.....

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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2010, 03:10:55 pm »

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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2010, 12:23:49 pm »
I belive there is a World Wide organization that has members from several powerful countries that makes the rules and can manipulate the economy any way it wants. We have aquired so much debt and borrowing from other countries that this country is lost

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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2010, 05:48:08 pm »


The aliens from THEY LIVE own everything! Put the sunglasses on to see what I mean!

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Naaaaa....Chinese girls are a lot hotter then most American girls.....

I guess I'll second this.

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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2010, 08:12:30 pm »
Well we technically are owned by China since we owe them so much money and will never be able to repay the debt at the rate we are going! If they call in that debt any time soon we may as well hang our new flags and hide our girls!
Naaaaa....Chinese girls are a lot hotter then most American girls.....

Psh. They don't have nothing on us.  ;)

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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2010, 02:28:04 am »
America isn't Owned by anyone,  it is apart of the planet earth, though.....we are all just along for the ride on this earth until it decides to shake us off......... like a dog scratchin' fleas!
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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2010, 06:04:32 am »
China.......4 sure

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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2010, 07:28:07 am »
I think the people own America, but the corporations/capitalists/government controls it. What do you think?

I think this mantra about corporations controlling America is just a distraction put in place by the real people who are doing real harm to our freedom and liberty, that is government.

A corporation is simply a method of organizing a business entity.  Corporations have no power to make you buy their products.  The  government is the only entity that has the power of force to make you comply with its wishes.  Corporations have been the "straw man" for Big Government for too long.  Big Government wins when the people turn their anger and frustrations away from the real culprits [Big Government] and instead get mad at Big Business.

The latest example would be the use of health insurance companies making profits on sick people as a way to pass the biggest assault of freedom to date the Health Care Bill.  Health insurers making any profit at all is somehow evil and only the benevolent government should be where we go because they somehow will have you best interests in mind and not make any profits from you.  Yeah right. 

First of all the notion on making a profit isn't an evil thing.  Do you expect a paycheck each week for the time you worked at your job?  Do you think you should work for free?  Then why is it we expect Health Insurance companies to provide a product or service for free?  Profits are just a basic economic principle that go with capitalism.  The profit margins of Big Insurance are only between 2 and 5 percent anyway.  Think about that.  $2.00 to $5.00 out of every $100.00 is what they keep.  That means that $95.00 to $98.00 is spent on other things like providing benefits to customers, paying taxes to government, paying the paychecks of the people who work for them.  Amazing isn't it?  Yet we direct all of our anger at these evil insurance companies and none whatsoever at government. 

Bernie Madoff sits in jail for running a Ponzi scheme where he took money for one person and paid some of it out to prior investors and spent the rest on himself.  Bernie didn't have the power of force to do this, he just had to convince you that you would make profits on the money you gave him.  He had to sell you on the idea and you had the power of choice on whether or not you wanted to buy.  What Benie did is the same thing the federal government does with Social Security.  The government takes money away from workers today and pays it out to retirees.  They take from one individual and give it to another.  This is NOT a function of government.  So why is Bernie in prison?  Simply because the almighty federal government doesn't want any competition in their racket.  All of your anger is directed at people like Bernie Madoff and none is directed at government.  Big Government has the power of force to make you pay, Bernie did not.

Perhaps it's time to direct your anger and frustrations at the true source, not at the current scapegoats.  Direct your anger at the people you elected to Big Government and fire them in November 2010 and again in November 2012.  In 2014 and 2016 do the same.  We have the power every 2 years in America to completely change the makeup of congress, yet we seldom do it.  We let the same people do the same things to us every year and then get mad at Big Business for it.  Fire the people responsible for creating the problem!  Fire every congressman or woman that has been in office for more than 10 years.  Make them get real jobs!  I never want to hear another person referred to as a 'five time' congressmen from this district or that district.  Five 2 year terms is 3 terms too many. 

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Re: Say, who owns America?
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2010, 08:20:38 am »
china owns it :) we alll just live here haha

Let me think. China makes the majority of our clothing, dishes, crops, products, etc. Since we rely on other countries so much, they can send anything over here they can harm Americans. I wonder if the government requires people to check the imports from other countries. I think not. I mean, do you remember when China was sending us toys with lead, tainted clothes, etc.? Why can't America be as productive as other countries in education, occupation, creation, manufacturing, enhancement, etc. Notice the majority of things we use aren't made in America?
The major manufacturing centers are in union labor controlled areas in America.  The rest of the country isn't going to pay the costs associated with union labor to buy things made this way.  An automobile manufactured in America has to be financed over a period of years largely because the cost of the labor to produce it.  We can't finance everything else we have to buy just so we can keep jobs [union jobs] in this country.

Unions add another layer of needless cost and bureaucracy to a business.  These costs are passed on to you the consumer.  You, the consumer, doesn't wish to pay $50 for a hammer when you can buy one of the same quality made in another country for $10.00.  We rail against Big Business for selling us products made out of this country, but never direct an anger at the people that drove those jobs out in the first place.  Unions and their bedfellows Big Government.  Things like Social Security, Medicare, Workman's Comp, Handicapped parking spaces, handicapped restrooms, 40 hours per work week, family medical leave, health insurance and let's not forget the 35% corporate tax all add costs to the products produced in the US.  The US government also imposes taxes on revenue generated outside of the border by companies based in the US. 

Products produced elsewhere do not have these costs and therefore the profit margins are higher and the cost to the consumer is much lower.  The confiscatory taxation coupled with the exorbitant pay rates and work rules from unions is what drove manufacturing jobs out of America.  But you have been led to believe it was all evil intentions by Big Business that did it.  You were told this lie by the very people who benefit from the taxation.....Big Government and Big Unions.

If we really wanted to change the status quo and make the US the world's greatest tax haven and once again where the world goes to first for manufacturing we have to simply stop taxing all income no matter where its earned.  Getting rid of the progressive income tax system would remove the tax component that is in every business decision made in the country.  Businesses would expand and hire people for the sole reason of more profits and not whether what they do will raise the costs of doing business.  The currently 10 to 15 trillion dollars invested offshore to escape current income taxation would come back to this country in a matter of months.  Unemployment would go down to 3 percent because all all the need for people to work in the manufacturing jobs in the US. 

How quickly can this be done?  Within a year after passage of the Fair Tax.  The Fair Tax is a national retail sales tax paid out only at the point of sale on new goods and services.  Used goods pay no tax.  Income would no longer be taxed in any form, be it business or personal income.  The tax base would be expanded to 23% of the 10 trillion dollars of commerce that occurs in America.  Anyone who buys anything at the retail level would pay into the tax coffers.  It wouldn't matter if they were here legally or not. 

The first thing we have to do is fire those people who stand in the way of its passage this November 2010 and then elect a president who will sign the bill into law in 2012.  In other words fire the Big Government types and hire the ones who will pass the Fair Tax.




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