Views on the pledge!

[hensleyll]

A Friend Sent This To Me ,Thought You All Would Find It Interesting!Who got an A+ for this entry Since the Pledge of Allegiance And The Lord's Prayer Are not allowed in most Public schools anymore Because the word 'God' is mentioned..... A kid in Arizona wrote the attached NEW School prayer: "New Pledge of… Allegiance" Now I sit me down in school Where praying is against the rule For this great nation under God Finds mention of Him very odd. If scripture now the class recites, It violates the Bill of Rights. And anytime my head I bow Becomes a Federal matter now. Our hair can be purple, orange or green, That's no offense; it's a freedom scene. The law is specific, the law is precise. Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice. For praying in a public hall Might offend someone with no faith at all. In silence alone we must meditate, God's name is prohibited by the state. We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks, And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks. They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible. To quote the Good Book makes me liable. We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen, And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King. It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong, We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong. We can get our condoms and birth controls, Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles. But the Ten Commandments are not allowed, No word of God must reach this crowd. It's scary here I must confess, When chaos reigns the school's a mess. So, Lord, this silent plea I make: Should I be shot; My soul please take! Amen~ If you aren't ashamed to do this, Please pass this on. Jesus said, 'If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.

[Falconer02]

Now I sit me down in school Where praying is against the rule

For praying in a public hall Might offend someone with no faith at all.

It's not against the rules to pray in school. As long as you be quiet and don't disturb anyone, it's totally legal and nobody will really care.  -10 points for lack of education.

For this great nation under God Finds mention of Him very odd.

Because we must respect other beliefs as well in public schools. Christianity isn't the one and only religion, you know.  -10 points for lack of respect.

If scripture now the class recites, It violates the Bill of Rights.

You can read the bible in school. Heck, teachers can read the bible to their students as long as it parallels the studies in the class.  -10 points for lack of education.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green, That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.

A lot of public schools are really strict with dress codes, jewelry, hair styles, etc. so this is only partially true. -5 points.

To quote the Good Book makes me liable. We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen, And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.

Why don't you stone them to death like your bible says? - 10 points for lack of education.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,

This is a problem? Education is key here- not religion. -5 points for vague dialogue

Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.

You can study christian witchcraft, angels/demons, and the cross in history and mytholgy classes. -10 points for lack of education.

If you aren't ashamed to do this, Please pass this on.

[hensleyll]

So Is This My Grade!

[Falconer02]

Well if you took your original post as truthful information and still do, you deserve the F. If you're now skeptical of the original post and have researched the claims, no. You're using your intellect, and that's deserving of an A 

[noirlupe]

A few years ago I was driving to work and the radio station played an audio clip of a version of the pledge of alligiance that brought me to tears it was recorded January 14, 1969, by Red Skelton.  I have attached the link to his website where you can read it and also an audio version.  http://www.redskelton.com/PLEDGE.htm

He was before my time but I loved his words.

[gaylasue]

A few years ago I was driving to work and the radio station played an audio clip of a version of the pledge of alligiance that brought me to tears it was recorded January 14, 1969, by Red Skelton.  I have attached the link to his website where you can read it and also an audio version.  http://www.redskelton.com/PLEDGE.htm

He was before my time but I loved his words.

That is a very rememberable dialog.

[dreamyxo]

There is no such thing as liberty and justice for all therefore for myself it is meaningless based on that alone.

[southernhorizons]

In this country everyone has freedom of speech and expression except people who believe in God and want to openly express that belief, because then they will "offend" someone. But this is the cause of our country's downfall. Not only because no country can remain great when you eliminate God, but because no one really has any freedom when you can only do and say what is politically correct. And no country can survive for long when there is no morals, and no belief in anything. Charlton Heston's great book, "The Courage to be Free," is a must read for anyone who is interested in the cultural revolution that is taking away all our freedoms, in the name of tolerance.

[Falconer02]

In this country everyone has freedom of speech and expression except people who believe in God and want to openly express that belief, because then they will "offend" someone. But this is the cause of our country's downfall. Not only because no country can remain great when you eliminate God, but because no one really has any freedom when you can only do and say what is politically correct. And no country can survive for long when there is no morals, and no belief in anything. Charlton Heston's great book, "The Courage to be Free," is a must read for anyone who is interested in the cultural revolution that is taking away all our freedoms, in the name of tolerance.

Why is it then that most countries that are primarily atheist/agnostic are doing so well? Japan, Germany, and most European countries are doing quite well w/o a god figure. Everyone should mind their own business when it comes to beliefs. Nobody wants to hear about how if they don't follow someone's god, they're going to burn for eternity. That's just asinine. And I hate PCness. Most people do.

[Abrupt]

In this country everyone has freedom of speech and expression except people who believe in God and want to openly express that belief, because then they will "offend" someone. But this is the cause of our country's downfall. Not only because no country can remain great when you eliminate God, but because no one really has any freedom when you can only do and say what is politically correct. And no country can survive for long when there is no morals, and no belief in anything. Charlton Heston's great book, "The Courage to be Free," is a must read for anyone who is interested in the cultural revolution that is taking away all our freedoms, in the name of tolerance.

Why is it then that most countries that are primarily atheist/agnostic are doing so well? Japan, Germany, and most European countries are doing quite well w/o a god figure. Everyone should mind their own business when it comes to beliefs. Nobody wants to hear about how if they don't follow someone's god, they're going to burn for eternity. That's just asinine. And I hate PCness. Most people do.

Germany is doing well, but Japan and most European countries are far worse off than us and doing much closer to poor than well.

[Falconer02]

Germany is doing well, but Japan and most European countries are far worse off than us and doing much closer to poor than well.

We have a footing in why there are these problems though (aside from the disaster that hit Japan). The world economy is just crap right now. But when it comes to crime and such, these societies are doing very well for themselves.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ZL3Kngb81qo/SiY7CoxRweI/AAAAAAAARKs/IhtO2n-ybco/Global%20Peace%20Map%5B6%5D.png

[Abrupt]

Germany is doing well, but Japan and most European countries are far worse off than us and doing much closer to poor than well.

We have a footing in why there are these problems though (aside from the disaster that hit Japan). The world economy is just crap right now. But when it comes to crime and such, these societies are doing very well for themselves.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ZL3Kngb81qo/SiY7CoxRweI/AAAAAAAARKs/IhtO2n-ybco/Global%20Peace%20Map%5B6%5D.png

I am not sure how far I would trust the Global Peace Map.  Seeing Libya and Egypt score better than the US causes me to be somewhat skeptical (even adjusting for earlier dates).  The data has to be some sort of compilation of observed and reported with some things being criminal in certain places, not criminal in others.  I would like to know more about the method of sampling used for it.

[Falconer02]

I am not sure how far I would trust the Global Peace Map.  Seeing Libya and Egypt score better than the US causes me to be somewhat skeptical (even adjusting for earlier dates).  The data has to be some sort of compilation of observed and reported with some things being criminal in certain places, not criminal in others.  I would like to know more about the method of sampling used for it.

You are correct-- my search was a bit blunt, so here is some more specific information. I know it's wiki, but they've improved dramatically in the last few years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#References

My original point was that countries can survive w/o religion. These countries that have less religion can do fairly-to-extremely well and it usually just fades out rather than being forced out.

[hensleyll]

noirlupe thanks going to post this on fb

[noirlupe]

Glad you liked it.  It moved me when I heard it.