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hitch0403

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #120 on: January 02, 2014, 10:32:52 pm »
BTW Mr Johnson i meant to ask you...being that you seem to reply to posts that you dont understand,what happens when you understand one?

Write a novel??

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #121 on: January 03, 2014, 01:22:45 am »
BTW Mr Johnson i meant to ask you...being that you seem to reply to posts that you dont understand,what happens when you understand one?

Write a novel??


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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #122 on: January 03, 2014, 07:34:01 am »
BTW Mr Johnson i meant to ask you...being that you seem to reply to posts that you dont understand,what happens when you understand one?

Write a novel??

Well, it's not surprising that you and your friend JJ find this amusing giving that neither of you can grasp this simple concept:

When you don't understand something due to someone being unclear, you should express that you don't understand so that you may gain clarification as opposed to your current approach of not only pretending you understand but insisting you have some insight on a subject when it can easily be proven that you clearly don't, spout uneducated nonsense, receive correct verifiable information but promptly ignore it because you would have to admit to embracing idiotic beliefs all of your life, continue to sound like a fool and wallow in ignorance like a pig in slop. 

So no, I don't need to write a novel when I understand something. A paragraph or so will do. Thanks for your inquiry into how I approach understanding... if only you'd apply this same curiosity to how all human beings and the world work. I look forward to the day when you two understand anything at all.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #123 on: January 03, 2014, 07:51:25 am »
Why even ask this question here unless your intent is to stir up? I mean what is the point? Why should you care what my opinion is? Live your life the way you see fit.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #124 on: January 03, 2014, 08:25:26 am »
When many think gays can have safe sex it really isn't worth discussing the issue anymore cos it tells me just how far gone their morals are.

This isn't a moral issue, it's a mental capacity issue. "Safe sex" is simply using protection while having sex. So, if homosexuals use protection while having sex, guess what? They're having safe sex  :o

I guess I get your point though, given that heterosexuals only have sex in wedlock from arranged marriages (to their cousins of course to keep with the teachings of the bible), only for the purposes of procreation with one partner their entire lives, and only in missionary position through a hole in a sheet. This is of course why heterosexual's never contract STD's and never have kids out of wedlock.

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Also I understand they could give a dam about what bible say about this.There are posts here that make Jesus sound like hes neutral re this.LOL.Do you really think he would go against what his father viewed as a sin?So not only do you contend with atheists,non-beleivers etc.....you deal with some who write their own rules re bible.

Let me get this straight (as opposed to getting it gay...'cause that's unsafe): The bible condones slavery, treats women like crap, kids can be stone to death for being disobedient, contains wonderful tales of god sending she-bears to kill kids because they were teasing a bald man as well god killing the first born sons of Egypt for the transgressions of their parents, and sacrifices his own son to himself (wow, your god really hates kids) to appease himself, but what really sticks in your craw is gay people touching each other with their cooties? This is all fine with you but you have the nerve to lecture others on morality?

Please look up the words "irony" and "hypocrisy" given that you absolutely must stand against homosexuality because the bible says so, but the immorality of murder and destruction are in the same damn book and are condoned or committed by your god, yet this is fine with you and you say it's others "who write their own rules re bible"? That fog of ignorance and hypocrisy you live in must be choking off oxygen to your brain.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2014, 10:55:23 am »
Why even ask this question here unless your intent is to stir up? I mean what is the point? Why should you care what my opinion is? Live your life the way you see fit.

One) I don't think anyone's here for any reason more-serious than the $3-per-month FC graciously allows us to take. But two)--if there is a 'practical' reason for asking such a question--I imagine it is this: to navigate the opinion-minefield social-media can be.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #126 on: January 03, 2014, 01:57:41 pm »
Well Mr Johnson I guess I got my moneys worth asking you that.

So lemme get this straight <no pun intended>....anyone using protection is having safe sex?

So as long as I bring a slingshot in to the bedroom with my wife I can do anything to her?

Ya see,sometimes you can answer someone based on their answers and be influenced on what to say and rather than argue or debate the issue be entertaining to the rest reading this.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #127 on: January 03, 2014, 02:51:56 pm »
BTW Mr Johnson i meant to ask you...being that you seem to reply to posts that you dont understand,what happens when you understand one?

Write a novel??

Well, it's not surprising that you and your friend JJ find this amusing giving that neither of you can grasp this simple concept:

When you don't understand something due to someone being unclear, you should express that you don't understand so that you may gain clarification as opposed to your current approach of not only pretending you understand but insisting you have some insight on a subject when it can easily be proven that you clearly don't, spout uneducated nonsense, receive correct verifiable information but promptly ignore it because you would have to admit to embracing idiotic beliefs all of your life, continue to sound like a fool and wallow in ignorance like a pig in slop. 

So no, I don't need to write a novel when I understand something. A paragraph or so will do. Thanks for your inquiry into how I approach understanding... if only you'd apply this same curiosity to how all human beings and the world work. I look forward to the day when you two understand anything at all.

So basically,Like Falconeer,you consider yourself so intellectually superior,that us fleas are beneath you with our primitive beliefs and are not worthy of your great wisdom.

I swear,I've seen arrogance in Atheists in my time in cyberspace,but this place sure knows how to breed 'em. 

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #128 on: January 03, 2014, 04:27:29 pm »
I have brought this up before.I am not sold on the fact that Mr Johnson and Falconer are atheists.And as I said when you see their distaste,distain and just overall dislike for a Creator,how can you feel that way about someone you didn't think existed?

Its also funny how they choose parts of the bible that they think makes God look cruel.

Why don't they look at the definition of Love in Corinthians?You wont find a better one for a word that is taken for granted in this world.Or the fact that God allowed A&E to have off-spring?So ungrateful for being born.Or that food tastes so good or whats more beautiful than a sunset?

I could go on and on but I need not.


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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #129 on: January 03, 2014, 05:44:20 pm »
Why even ask this question here unless your intent is to stir up? I mean what is the point? Why should you care what my opinion is? Live your life the way you see fit.

One) I don't think anyone's here for any reason more-serious than the $3-per-month FC graciously allows us to take. But two)--if there is a 'practical' reason for asking such a question--I imagine it is this: to navigate the opinion-minefield social-media can be.
Because your guaranteed to get a answer like this one which really does not answer your question but take you on a merry go round of what they feel is a educated answer. My Opinion is we have a bunch with nothing to do, but flood the forum with their education or what they feel is much smarter than most. ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #130 on: January 03, 2014, 09:22:53 pm »
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So basically,Like Falconeer,you consider yourself so intellectually superior,that us fleas are beneath you with our primitive beliefs and are not worthy of your great wisdom.

I swear,I've seen arrogance in Atheists in my time in cyberspace,but this place sure knows how to breed 'em.

I sense a lot of insecurity in that post.

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.I am not sold on the fact that Mr Johnson and Falconer are atheists

You're partially correct with me- I'm an agnostic-atheist, which simply means I don't rule out the possibility of there being metaphysical life, but since there isn't any proof nor has there ever been any, it's foolish to act like there is. Especially when one claims ancient people's writings who knew very little of the natural world are proof of these beings.

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And as I said when you see their distaste,distain and just overall dislike for a Creator,how can you feel that way about someone you didn't think existed?]

Because you believe in this one ancient god and are spreading misinformation around- example being you don't understand the definition of safe sex and are going on wild tangents (Sling shot? Really? Your S+M thoughts are very unique! lol). You also skipped the points I made about this one god being a malevolent and unjustly god, so you're either playing the ignorance card here, or you failed to read my post.

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Or the fact that God allowed A&E to have off-spring?So ungrateful for being born.Or that food tastes so good or whats more beautiful than a sunset?

I'm certain modern-day homo sapiens didn't come from incestuous roots, I am not ungrateful for being born because we live in a remarkable time, I like food, and enjoy sunsets when it's not wickedly cold out. Your entire statement incorrect- you have now proven yourself to be a liar, which...is a sin. But I guess I'm arrogant for pointing that out, right?  ::)
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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #131 on: January 04, 2014, 02:51:53 pm »
Well Mr Johnson I guess I got my moneys worth asking you that.

So lemme get this straight <no pun intended>....anyone using protection is having safe sex?

So as long as I bring a slingshot in to the bedroom with my wife I can do anything to her?

Ya see,sometimes you can answer someone based on their answers and be influenced on what to say and rather than argue or debate the issue be entertaining to the rest reading this.

Falconer already beat me to the S&M quip, so I'll just address the fact that your attempt at humor is only to avoid the subject. If your points were valid, there'd be no need for distractions.

When you don't understand something due to someone being unclear, you should express that you don't understand so that you may gain clarification as opposed to your current approach of not only pretending you understand but insisting you have some insight on a subject when it can easily be proven that you clearly don't, spout uneducated nonsense, receive correct verifiable information but promptly ignore it because you would have to admit to embracing idiotic beliefs all of your life, continue to sound like a fool and wallow in ignorance like a pig in slop. 

So basically,Like Falconeer,you consider yourself so intellectually superior,that us fleas are beneath you with our primitive beliefs and are not worthy of your great wisdom.

I swear,I've seen arrogance in Atheists in my time in cyberspace,but this place sure knows how to breed 'em. 

The projection is strong with this one.

The very first sentence is about how I deal with not understanding things. Why would someone claiming such intellectual prowess admit to not understanding something? That's not stated in this paragraph nor in anything I've read in posts by Falconer... but anyway, been there, fielded that...

Btw, without fail, no matter the forum, online or otherwise, believers will always whip out "he's so arrogant" or "he thinks he knows everything". This is of course an ad hominem. It's very high school. I liken it to a pretty girl who all the guys are into, walking by another group of girls. She says nothing and is just minding her business, but what's the first thing that comes out of the other girls mouths? "She thinks she's all that!" She's just walking by! YOU must think she's "all that" and you don't compare. Instead of acknowledging this inadequacy, you instead project it on to her where it manifests itself (in your head) as her being conceited. You can now, of course, proceed to attack this short coming "she" has.

The only one talking about how "intellectually superior" we are, is you... on more than one occasion I might add. This says way more about you than us. You're the guy that says "everywhere I go, it always smells terrible", and never once thinks to check the bottom of your own shoes.

I have brought this up before.I am not sold on the fact that Mr Johnson and Falconer are atheists. And as I said when you see their distaste,distain and just overall dislike for a Creator,how can you feel that way about someone you didn't think existed?

I'm sure, as is the case with most Christians that try to run this tired line, you have some warped idea of what atheism is which would be why you're not "sold". I discuss god the same way I discuss any villain in any book, play or movie. When you discuss Star Wars, when talking about Darth Vader, do you start off every sentence with "Though I don't believe Darth actually exists..."?

My distaste and disdain is for people like you. You spout this garbage and have no concern for the fact that this actually affects people's lives. Homosexuals are your relatives, your friends, your coworkers... they are real people. They are soldiers, police, fire fighters, babysitters, and teachers. You have the nerve to admonish others for being cafeteria Christians when that's all you are. You pick and chose what you want believe. You're a hypocrit. The passages on slavery and homosexuality are both in Leviticus yet you only chose to focus on one of those. I wonder why that is? You're a coward. Either own it all or own none of it. When this is pointed out to you, instead of addressing it head on (because you know you can't reconcile this), you, like a coward, want to change the subject to the parts of the bible that make you feel all warm and fuzzy in side...

 
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Its also funny how they choose parts of the bible that they think makes God look cruel.

I don't have to make your god look cruel, the bible does that without my help. You ignore it because you can't reconcile what you want to believe with what's actually there.

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Why don't they look at the definition of Love in Corinthians?You wont find a better one for a word that is taken for granted in this world.Or the fact that God allowed A&E to have off-spring?So ungrateful for being born.Or that food tastes so good or whats more beautiful than a sunset?

Why don't you look at the fact that Hitler was a painter? Some serial killers give to charity too. I'm grateful for my parents and cooks that make such great food and the farmers that grow it.

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I could go on and on but I need not.

Please don't. You should've never started. Keep your head in your bible learning wonderful things like not suffering witches to live and I'll keep refusing to suffer fools. We'll see which piece of advice turns out to be more useful.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #132 on: January 04, 2014, 05:03:14 pm »
I don't have much faith in marriage to begin with. It is a stupid custom. I think if gay people want to get married let them. At least they really want it. The Christian faith has done nothing but cause problems for everyone.  >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #133 on: January 04, 2014, 06:32:26 pm »
Mr Johnson...seriously,keep your posts short.It bores me to tears how you rant on and just say the same stuff!!

Trust me,i know how feel about bible etc.My replys to you are for others to learn....NOT to debate or convince you!!

http://youtu.be/wcEAD3G8wBE

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Re: Gay Marriage: Where do you stand?
« Reply #134 on: January 04, 2014, 07:11:45 pm »
... My Opinion is we have a bunch with nothing to do, but flood the forum with their education or what they feel is much smarter than most. ::) ::) ::)

Oh? Then what is the purpose of these forum, that is accomplished by something other than "letting my light shine brightly for all to see"?
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