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should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« on: December 08, 2009, 02:37:19 pm »
do you think that we should let illigal immigrants into the country  for free

im 50% mexican as you pry already no if you look at the pic lol  so this is a good topic for me to get views on 


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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 03:57:23 pm »
No, they should be shot if they come illegally.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 04:00:29 pm »
It depends on who, specifically, you are talking about.

If you are referring to any of the indigenous people of this continent, then absolutely they should be allowed into any part of the continent they wish to go to.

Back in the day there were no Americans, Mexicans, Canadians,South Americans etc, it was all indigenous.
Once the imaginary lines were imagined that in some peoples eyes forms the national borders, many family units were broken up.

What I mean is, often times the border ran right through the middle of villages and people on one side for instance would become known as Mexican, and ones on the other side would eventually one day be allowed to call themselves American(not that I would want to....) even though they were often times immediate family or close relatives atleast.

Now that the border is in place, one must ask permission to go visit Grandmother, or a close cousin etc. and the powers that be may or may not eventually grant permission depending on their whim or how satisfactorily you jump through their prefered hoop of that day.

So, is it acceptable to deny these folks admittance to lands that have been theirs since antiquity, I say no.

I think it is sorta interesting that anyone of the dominant society in this country would have the audacity to call someone else "illegal immigrant".

So.....welcome to Turtle Island....now speak Tsalagi!!!

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 04:02:42 pm »
No, they should be shot if they come illegally.
Ummmm....may I ask who your ancestors were?

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 04:11:40 pm »
I agree 100% with walksalone11.....  you are right!!!!

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 05:23:59 pm »
if they aren't criminals they should be welcomed as long as they are law abidding they should have a chance for a better life.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 05:56:30 pm »
As much as it would be great to have wide open borders (actually it would be even greater if this were a world without a need for borders), it's impractical and, in this period in time, dangerous.  In this age especially, you simply cannot allow people to walk into this country and expect safety to remain as is.  It won't work.  You can't have unprotected borders when you have murderous drug cartels riding around with absolutely no respect for the law or for other human beings.  You can't have unprotected borders when there's a solid risk of terrorism coming to your doorstep.

Do I think people should be welcome here?  Certainly.  I think there should be an efficient process for immigration and gaining official citizenship, and that we should welcome those who wish to contribute and make a better life for themselves.  I have less sympathy for people who desire to come here and have things handed to them.

No, they should be shot if they come illegally.
Ummmm....may I ask who your ancestors were?

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I lol'd.  "ol betsy" got me good :D

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 05:59:28 pm »
As much as it would be great to have wide open borders (actually it would be even greater if this were a world without a need for borders), it's impractical and, in this period in time, dangerous.  In this age especially, you simply cannot allow people to walk into this country and expect safety to remain as is.  It won't work.  You can't have unprotected borders when you have murderous drug cartels riding around with absolutely no respect for the law or for other human beings.  You can't have unprotected borders when there's a solid risk of terrorism coming to your doorstep.

Do I think people should be welcome here?  Certainly.  I think there should be an efficient process for immigration and gaining official citizenship, and that we should welcome those who wish to contribute and make a better life for themselves.  I have less sympathy for people who desire to come here and have things handed to them.

No, they should be shot if they come illegally.
Ummmm....may I ask who your ancestors were?

***loading up ol' betsy***

I lol'd.  "ol betsy" got me good :D
I would never advocate for wide open borders....we learned that lesson the hard way.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 06:00:21 pm »
I don't think so.  I don't agree with them being shot but they should most definitely be deported ASAP.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 06:06:26 pm »
I don't think so.  I don't agree with them being shot but they should most definitely be deported ASAP.
Yeah I guess we do need to get around to that, I mean, I understand the whole "NDN time" concept and all but I guess 517 years is procrastinating just a bit, huh?

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 07:12:52 pm »
Allow me to clarify....
While I do believe that anyone should be allowed access to the US, I believe it should be done in a legal manner.  That is to say, the people coming over in trunks or hidden in the back of trucks in order to get jobs, should not be allowed to stay.  I'm not even going to get into the whole 'indigenous peoples' arguement, to me, that's a moot point and has nothing to do with the post at hand as I don't believe that's what the poster intended by Illegal immigrants. 

As I said, if you're here illegally, stealing jobs from hard working American citizens than yes, you should be deported.  I also feel the need to say, that I am of Native American, Scottish, and Irish descent and while all of my ancestors most obviously were immigrants and I do champion people of other countries who want to come here LEGALLY and make a better life for themselves, I am an American and put this country and it's citizens first.
 

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 07:15:47 pm »
do you think that we should let illigal immigrants into the country  for free

im 50% mexican as you pry already no if you look at the pic lol  so this is a good topic for me to get views on  

I must say with all due respect that no they should not be. I am fully aware that this country is a melting pot and that is the foundation it was built on. Everything reaches a fill point. We have reached ours.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 11:11:09 pm »
I do not think it is fair for immigrants to enter our country illegally, even though I know many people that illegally entered this country.  It took a family friend 15 years before he took the necessary steps to become a legal citizen of our country. Due to the amount of illegal immigrants that enter this country each year it is not feasible to expect the government to be able to actually solve the problem, but at the same time I do not feel those who immigrate illegally should be let off the hook. When it is discovered there are illegal immigrants instead of deporting or jailing them, officials should consider helping the people become legal citizens of this country.  Obviously there are reasons for why they have chosen to come to this country.   Most of the people I know came here to start a better life, so instead of depriving these people of the better lifethis country was founded on, we need to help make these individuals legal citizens.

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 03:50:07 am »
People came here with their own American dreams but some of them did come illegal and it was not because they chose to be illegal but they have no other way of coming legally.difficult visa granting stopped a lot of people who wanted to come here legally from entering the country in a legal way. No matter how hard it was they made their way here just like a lot of ancestors of Americans. How come they can not get status as easy as the ancestors?

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Re: should illigal immigrants come to this country free
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 05:23:45 am »
No. All should be accounted for and have the same rules apply to them as they are for us when we go to a foriegn country. If they can do that, welcome to America.
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