Logical Arguments Against the Existence of God

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

The idea of a god or gods isn't based on logic to begin with.  It's part of the human need to believe that life goes on after death and to explain what we don't understand.  Now science has come into the picture and we know more, but we still don't have all the answers.  As long as some pieces of the puzzle are missing, people will continue to believe in the divine.

It's BECAUSE belief in gods is not based on logic that it loses its credibility.  Pretty much everything else in life we depend on logic for; religion should not get a free pass.  I agree it is part of the human condition to fear death, because unlike other animals, we've evolved to be CONSCIOUS of the fact that we're going to die.  Naturally, this leads many to think what's the point to life, then, if it's just 70 years and then you're dead forever?  And so we rely on fantasy to cope with this reality.  

Also, long before we knew how things like lightning worked, we invented gods to explain it.  But I'd say it's mostly being unable to accept death, and even when we one day have almost all of the pieces to where we came from figured out, some people are still going to believe out of fear.

I'm not saying religion should get a free pass.  I'm saying the people who believe are not going to be easily convinced by logical arguments.  They're worshiping an entity that they have never seen or heard for themselves.  Religion and logic are opposites most days.  That's my only point.   

[Falconer02]

Fuzzy, you're totally right. And so is Queen. You obviously have good and worthy viewpoints. I think what this boils down personally to is not what religion does for comfort, but what it does as a whole. What it does on the exterior that none of the worshippers acknowledge.

I have no problems with someone being spiritual as long as it does not effect my path. But when religious zealots are in our political offices and use it as a re-election card, I am greatly offended. When religions march with the pompous attitude that they're 100% correct although there's ridiculously obvious flaws, I get offended. When they promote hatred, I get offended. When religions preach to convert everyone that does not believe their fantasy character or they'll burn for eternity, I get offended. They may see it as spreading love and think they're rescuing people, but what they don't realize is they're doing nothing more than promoting a superstitious curse. And that is very sad advertising campaign.

[cubarican210]

Well to me God exists because how else would we be here. Someone or something had to have created us. A supernatural being. I might be wrong on this but you know when astronauts go in outerspace they can't go near a black hole because they will get sucked in and never come out. My idea is that heaven exists in that black hole. I mean that's just my idea and it may sound crazy. I really don't believe that evolution that scientists like to feed into our brains because had we evolved from monkeys and apes or whatever primate there wouldn't be any of those animals left in the world. Can you tell me when you have seen a monkey turn into a human? I would really like to see that. Only in movies you know. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I just had to express mine. Have a great day everyone. 

[jordandog]

Did anyone hear about President Obama covering up in God We Trust on the wall behind him in the Oval Office? That to me is messed up and not a good sign!

Where is proof of this or is it just another rumor going around the religious camps again? I could not care less if he did, but I can find nothing about this anywhere, so I have to think it is just another, "Ooooh, let's get all the Christians going with THIS one!"

[catherine1will]

you must really believe in God my mother always say that you have to prey and believe

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

Fuzzy, you're totally right. And so is Queen. You obviously have good and worthy viewpoints. I think what this boils down personally to is not what religion does for comfort, but what it does as a whole. What it does on the exterior that none of the worshippers acknowledge.

I have no problems with someone being spiritual as long as it does not effect my path. But when religious zealots are in our political offices and use it as a re-election card, I am greatly offended. When religions march with the pompous attitude that they're 100% correct although there's ridiculously obvious flaws, I get offended. When they promote hatred, I get offended. When religions preach to convert everyone that does not believe their fantasy character or they'll burn for eternity, I get offended. They may see it as spreading love and think they're rescuing people, but what they don't realize is they're doing nothing more than promoting a superstitious curse. And that is very sad advertising campaign.

I'm with you on all points, but organized religion doesn't work for me and never will.  The Crusades still makes me angry and I wasn't even around for that mess.

[sigmapi1501]

when astronauts go in outerspace they can't go near a black hole because they will get sucked in and never come out.

That.... OR That it would take over a thousand years traveling at the speed of light (which is currently impossible because it takes infinite energy to do so) to reach the nearest black hole.

[jordandog]

you must really believe in God my mother always say that you have to prey and believe

I'm sure it was an innocent typo, but did anyone pick up on this:"PREY[sic] and believe"? Interesting - I could go somewhere with that one.

[queenofnines]

Well to me God exists because how else would we be here. Someone or something had to have created us. A supernatural being. I might be wrong on this but you know when astronauts go in outerspace they can't go near a black hole because they will get sucked in and never come out. My idea is that heaven exists in that black hole. I mean that's just my idea and it may sound crazy. I really don't believe that evolution that scientists like to feed into our brains because had we evolved from monkeys and apes or whatever primate there wouldn't be any of those animals left in the world. Can you tell me when you have seen a monkey turn into a human? I would really like to see that. Only in movies you know. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I just had to express mine. Have a great day everyone. 

People who write stuff like this should not be allowed to post in religious debates.

YOU JUST LOOK SILLY.

[Vietlazed]

Well to me God exists because how else would we be here. Someone or something had to have created us. A supernatural being. I might be wrong on this but you know when astronauts go in outerspace they can't go near a black hole because they will get sucked in and never come out. My idea is that heaven exists in that black hole. I mean that's just my idea and it may sound crazy. I really don't believe that evolution that scientists like to feed into our brains because had we evolved from monkeys and apes or whatever primate there wouldn't be any of those animals left in the world. Can you tell me when you have seen a monkey turn into a human? I would really like to see that. Only in movies you know. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I just had to express mine. Have a great day everyone.  

People who write stuff like this should not be allowed to post in religious debates.



YOU JUST LOOK SILLY.

i agree with you this is just a no no evolution is the answer god can be an explanation for certain things but not this.

[Falconer02]

People who write stuff like this should not be allowed to post in religious debates.

YOU JUST LOOK SILLY

Agreed. It should be called the 1st-grade "god-did-it!" answer.

[AmyTrivitt]

Some people, yes.  Others (like me) were able to give up their god delusion after realizing the things that other atheists have put out there.  So don't discourage my efforts.  The more people I can get to live in reality, the better.

In all honesty if you see a person walking down the road talking to themselves..... You automatically think crazy!! But why is it when people pray in front of others to themselves, its not crazy?
Why is god selfish? As said in the bible, put NO other gods before me.. Hmm didn't know there was other gods!!
I am not afriad to die as someone posted earlier we need to bealive to get into heaven,,, no when I die I know I will be dead, as with any living organism there is no after life, no pearly gates! I think with my brain not what cult religions have set forth. And for that matter why was the bible changed so much?? If your a big history buff like my husband & I the bible is sick and twisted. If you have ever read or heard passages from the very first MAN made book.
Just a little food for thought on this one!!

[AmyTrivitt]

Don't get me wrong I do not care what others believe in. I just hate small minded people who try and try to prove something they cannot and get pissy when we do not see anything rational that they are saying.

[queenofnines]

And for that matter why was the bible changed so much??

And why does it take a theologian and a billion-plus translations to understand it??  Good points, Amy!   

[AmyTrivitt]

Some people, yes.  Others (like me) were able to give up their god delusion after realizing the things that other atheists have put out there.  So don't discourage my efforts.  The more people I can get to live in reality, the better.

In all honesty if you see a person walking down the road talking to themselves..... You automatically think crazy!! But why is it when people pray in front of others to themselves, its not crazy?
Why is god selfish? As said in the bible, put NO other gods before me.. Hmm didn't know there was other gods!!
I am not afriad to die as someone posted earlier we need to bealive to get into heaven,,, no when I die I know I will be dead, as with any living organism there is no after life, no pearly gates! I think with my brain not what cult religions have set forth. And for that matter why was the bible changed so much?? If your a big history buff like my husband & I the bible is sick and twisted. If you have ever read or heard passages from the very first MAN made book.
Just a little food for thought on this one!!

Because people praying are not talking to themselves. There are no other God's but people can make them up. You can't even spell believe...should I listen to any knowledge you may think you have? Oh and it is you're (you are)

The only reason you bash on my spelling is because I make you think!! No other reason at all.