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cheyanne15

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Kill Me
« on: November 21, 2010, 04:52:09 pm »
This may have been discussed before but I am new so I don't know

Anyways, if a person commits suicide ... are they brave or are they a coward?

I think they are brave because not many people are man/woman enough to take their own life.

 ??? ??? ???

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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 04:54:08 pm »
Have you known anyone to commit suicide?  I have.  I personally think it is cowardly, and I still am deeply hurt by it.



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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 04:58:05 pm »
No I have never meet anyone but I do have suicidaly thoughts alot.

In my perspective that person just wanted to get out and escape. I sometimes feel like I would like to do the same, and I am sorry for your lost. Understand it was that person's right, at least that's what I believe.
If they don't feel like living anymore... why should they? If you understand what I am saying.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 05:05:58 pm »
There are many people who have suicidal thoughts or wished they were dead.  The whole thing about being an adult, though, is that you have responsibility to more than just yourself.  By killing yourself when you just don't want to live, you are taking the easy way out.  My brother had his 16 year old son living with him, a 13 year old son that looked forward to visiting his dad every year on summer and winter holidays, and a 10 year old son desperate to get to know his dad, and he abandoned them when he pulled that trigger.  He also abandoned the rest of his family, including my mother who is on oxygen and in poor health, my father who considered him his best friend, my brother and his family, and myself and my family.  He has two nephews and a niece that he never got to meet because he took the easy way out, and every day I miss him and wish he was here to play with my daughter or to counsel his two now-adult troubled sons who can't seem to stay on the right side of the law.

Suicide effects more than just the dead.  No matter how bad I feel or how much I wish I would die at times, no matter how bad my postpartum depression got where I just wanted to drive over the side of a bridge, I never did, because I know that I have a responsibility to those who love me, no matter how little I may have loved myself.

I believe life is not just a gift...there is more to it than getting what you can out of it.  If you go through your life helping or pleasing only yourself, then there isn't much to your life, and it was wasted...IMO.



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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 05:08:39 pm »
Whenever I see topics like this my first thought is, does it matter?

It does matter.  Ask anyone who has ever known someone who has committed suicide or anyone that has been suicidal.

Topics like this are a cry for help.



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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 05:11:28 pm »
I am sorry to hear about your troubles Dx
Here is my opinion. If I where to die it wouldn't matter because I am nothing (maybe that's how he felt)
I feel like by me dying it's actually better for the world
~Food that goes into me can no go into someone who wants to live
~Less oxygen being consumed if I am gone
~My friends and school wouldn't care?
~The spot that I would take in college can now be filled with someone who earned it
~Less money my parents has to spend on me
The list goes on and on... It's actually a good thing if I die.
Maybe thats how he felt?
It's not taking the easy way out either .. because killing your self takes guts and courage to actually say "Hey I am tried of this world, and I want to end it all"

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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 05:13:59 pm »
I'm not telling anyone in real life how I feel because they say "people who say there gonna commit suicide are only wanting attention"
That's why I cope with this alone

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 05:16:14 pm »
No I don't care about myself. I feel like the only thing I am good for is getting A's and being naturally gifted in English and Math... that's it

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 05:27:24 pm »
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He has two nephews and a niece that he never got to meet because he took the easy way out

If you believe in God then you know this is not true. Never say Never.

That belief is not universal.  Many believe that suicides are destined for hellfire.  Many don't believe in heaven or hell.  The point is, though, that he never got to meet them in this life, if you believe in a next one.  This life is the only one we know we're guaranteed to a degree, and it is the one that matters to my daughter who sees my brother's picture, points, and says "Uncle Bill" but doesn't know who Uncle Bill is, really, except that he died before she was born.  She was robbed of his goofy laugh.  It hurts and angers me at the same time.

I am sorry to hear about your troubles Dx
Here is my opinion. If I where to die it wouldn't matter because I am nothing (maybe that's how he felt)
I feel like by me dying it's actually better for the world
~Food that goes into me can no go into someone who wants to live
~Less oxygen being consumed if I am gone
~My friends and school wouldn't care?
~The spot that I would take in college can now be filled with someone who earned it
~Less money my parents has to spend on me
The list goes on and on... It's actually a good thing if I die.
Maybe thats how he felt?
It's not taking the easy way out either .. because killing your self takes guts and courage to actually say "Hey I am tried of this world, and I want to end it all"

He killed himself after he received a mistakenly delivered child support summons.  He walked out on his job, called his girlfriend who basically told him she didn't care, sent his son to stay the night with the son's girlfriend, and shot himself.  There is nothing glamorous about it.  He was lying in his bed, pulled the trigger, and when my father found him the next day when he went to check on him, he was cold and stiff.  That is what my father remembers when he closes his eyes.  His son that was living with him remembers getting off the school bus and seeing police and tape around the house and not being allowed to go inside.  I remember being the first one to the funeral home and asking the mortician to change the makeup because that wasn't the way my brother looked when he was alive.  And all of us remember the two days of having to hug people and accept their condolences for our loss when all we wanted to do was sit and cry.  As soon as my brother was buried, we had to go to the house where he killed himself and pack up his possessions, decide what to keep, what to sell, and what to throw away.  His suicide was not brave... none is.

While there's life, there's hope.
    Cicero



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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 07:27:30 pm »
This may have been discussed before but I am new so I don't know

Anyways, if a person commits suicide ... are they brave or are they a coward?

I think they are brave because not many people are man/woman enough to take their own life.

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First of all I think your answer to your own question is moronic. What's so brave about killing yourself? It's just plain stupid and selfish. Think about all the people that are hurt and have to live with the pain of such a selfish act. There is nothing brave about killing yourself, it's a cowardly act of pure unadulterated selfishness.
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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 10:48:38 pm »
Definitely cowardly.  You're not facing anything that may stand in front of you.  You're running from it.  Bravery would be facing the issue you think you'll fail in and overcoming it.   Not to mention all the people that get left behind hurt, and in pain wondering why???

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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 03:10:44 am »
No I don't care about myself. I feel like the only thing I am good for is getting A's and being naturally gifted in English and Math... that's it
Why in the world would you say such a thing about yourself??? Whether or not you are religious, you were put here on this planet for a reason, and after all of that hard work you are putting in with your school, believe me, it will pay off in the end.  You should be celebrating these things about you, and if you think that's all you have to offer this world, you are so wrong. Cheer up, and look inside yourself, think about the things you enjoy and that you love, then your creative side will come out, and all of that madness will  be behind you...



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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 02:10:07 pm »
Hi marieelissa I just know there Aint no such God I been asking for prayers from God and Vergin Mary for years and it never happens when you ask for help. I getting to believe it all a hoax is using your for money grab. Do you no why I'm here it not god who made me or others. The secret lies in the ground the word god was premade up as a someone started story, that phose Jesus told to him to say that word to get us believing he will save us is not known. when you ask sod then god you get a answer god tend used us that never tend heal people Like i ask for years just a real hoax. Found out yesterday i ask him a god a question again never works. i just not going believe in him or vergin mary anymore to i here my answer. you contact me i tell what it means to sod.

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2010, 05:44:38 pm »
They are neither brave or cowards, they are weak and hurting and in need of support & healing.

I tried twice and nearly got there.  I was saved, I spent a week in ICU but I pulled thru and I got well
I am unfortunate to have Bipolar- disorder so I can't never say that , it would not happen again.  I know that I don't want to die, and I have alot to live for dispite my illness.

But in all, for what ever reason a person has got to that low. No one should or have the right to judge that person's actions.  In my opinion, people should questions why they didn't see that person in need of help and question if they were to scared to help.

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Re: Kill Me
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 06:36:09 pm »
They are neither brave or cowards, they are weak and hurting and in need of support & healing.

I tried twice and nearly got there.  I was saved, I spent a week in ICU but I pulled thru and I got well
I am unfortunate to have Bipolar- disorder so I can't never say that , it would not happen again.  I know that I don't want to die, and I have alot to live for dispite my illness.

But in all, for what ever reason a person has got to that low. No one should or have the right to judge that person's actions.  In my opinion, people should questions why they didn't see that person in need of help and question if they were to scared to help.
GOSH! I completey AGREE with you! Such wise words! :D
I am 15 for ever asked my age.  and I don't think taking your life is being a coward?Do you have any idea how many pepople WANT to take their lifes? However the actually people that do that are willing to take their lifes, and it's such a challenege but they over come it.
This is how I look at it... and it shoould be their right to choose and their family should at least try to look at it from the person who committed suicides perspective.

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