October feast

[Anita6586]

Are you taking the children to a Haunted house,every week-end Horror movie,Or waiting for Halloween treats?

[swkstudent]

I don't have children but if I did I would once they got to a appropiate age. My parents took us to haunted houses all the time. They're fun.

[freepcmoney]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

[2getherwewin]

NO, I AM STAYING HOME WITH HUSBAND AND KIDS.

[hicaniplay]

We were just talking about the price of Haunted Houses. All of the ones in our area costs around $20 a person!
I don't have kids, but my sister does. I think my nieces are gonna have to be happy with going through a corn maze ($5 bucks a person).

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

Last year a church had a "haunted house" - it was a bunch of sins acted out. I didn't go but my niece did (it was her or maybe her sister's church? I get them mixed up), said it was pretty confusing. Some obvious ones, but also one where a grandmother dies surrounded by friends and family who mention how loving she was and such a great person - then the granny goes to hell and cries and begs as she doesn't know why or something?
Maybe it was a "sins in your youth stay with you forever" thing, but my 12 year old niece didn't know what it was about.
Most of the ones that get mentioned on the internet are pretty terrible; my sister was worried they'd have teen suicide or soldiers going to hell, things like that. Overall, my niece didn't give a good review of it, and I don't think anyone else in our family bothered going.
Started some debates on sins and whether there were exceptions and stuff though.

But hey, maybe your church or religious group could put together something decent?

Personally, I'm an atheist, so don't really worry about Satan all that much and just enjoy the holiday

[ptfunds]

Actually, Halloween is thought to have originated around the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. To celebrate Samhain people would light bonfires and wear costumes to scare away roaming ghosts. During the eighth century, Pope Gregory III designated November 1 as a time to honor all saints and martyrs; All Saints’ Day, incorporated some of the traditions of Samhain. The evening before was known as All Hallows’ Eve and later called Halloween. Over time, Halloween has evolved into a secular (non-religious) event characterized by child-friendly activities such as trick-or-treating. In many countries around the world  people continue to usher in the winter season with gatherings, costumes and sweet treats.

[falcon9]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

Really?  You'd much rather participate in a pagan celebration preceding winter solstice called "Saturnalia". Primarily a Roman festival, Saturnalia formed the roots for The Fraternis Saturni, an ancient occult order of Saturn worship.  I found it somewhat ironic that a pagan festival was stolen by the xtians, pilfered in turn by "Gregor A. Gregorius" as an offshoot of Aleister Crowley’s Thelema, (both so-called "satanic" offshoots), only to be appropriated by modern day commercialism.

Yeah, that's so much better than giving candy out to little kids, ya cheap 'satanist'!

[falcon9]

Actually, Halloween is thought to have originated around the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. To celebrate Samhain people would light bonfires and wear costumes to scare away roaming ghosts. During the eighth century, Pope Gregory III designated November 1 as a time to honor all saints and martyrs; All Saints’ Day, incorporated some of the traditions of Samhain. The evening before was known as All Hallows’ Eve and later called Halloween. Over time, Halloween has evolved into a secular (non-religious) event characterized by child-friendly activities such as trick-or-treating. In many countries around the world  people continue to usher in the winter season with gatherings, costumes and sweet treats.

Exactly so.  It's superficial tact for some xtians to characterize anything that isn't vaguely 'xtian' as somehow being "satanic".  Odd that a Pope would designate the holiday as a xtian one then.

[Falconer02]

Are you taking the children to a Haunted house,every week-end Horror movie,Or waiting for Halloween treats?

Technically I'm doing all 3!

1.) I'm taking my little cousins to a haunted house sometime soon
2.) Definitely watching plenty of horror films. I wanted to go see the new "The Thing" but I heard it sucks so I'm sticking with the old 1982 version. Horrifying!
3.) Halloween falls on a monday, so I'll be passing out treats then. There's a cool massive city-sponsored party in Madison, WI that I will be going to on saturday though.

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

BECUZ DRESSING UP AS WAYNE AND GARTH, SUPER MARIO, OR INDIANA JONES IS THE FRUIT OF SATAN'S LABOR TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!1!!1!11!! IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!

[falcon9]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

BECUZ DRESSING UP AS WAYNE AND GARTH, SUPER MARIO, OR INDIANA JONES IS THE FRUIT OF SATAN'S LABOR TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!1!!1!11!! IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!

No doubt there's some envy involved as "satan's minions" give out candy and treats whereas the most catholics get are those tasteless wafers intended to euphemize cannibalism, (not to mention drinking the "blood of christ").  The latter sounds far more 'satanic' than eating candy does.

[jcribb16]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

Really?  You'd much rather participate in a pagan celebration preceding winter solstice called "Saturnalia". Primarily a Roman festival, Saturnalia formed the roots for The Fraternis Saturni, an ancient occult order of Saturn worship.  I found it somewhat ironic that a pagan festival was stolen by the xtians, pilfered in turn by "Gregor A. Gregorius" as an offshoot of Aleister Crowley’s Thelema, (both so-called "satanic" offshoots), only to be appropriated by modern day commercialism.

Yeah, that's so much better than giving candy out to little kids, ya cheap 'satanist'!

I posted this in another thread, but since the same subject was brought up in here, I'm posting it in here, too:

I would like to suggest that the readers research, if they so desire and/or have the time, paganism/Christian holidays and come to their own conclusion.  This is a heavy subject and would need some time to go all the way back in time and study what happened from the first pagan celebrations and what they meant, as well as the first Christian celebrations and what they meant.  There is no argument on some of the pagan ideas shifting over to Christian ideas in the early church, but one should know the background and historic relevance between the two groups, and the people involved who made decisions, and the similarities of pagan and Christian groups mainly differing in what and who they worshipped or celebrated.

There are too many links to offer, but I've listed 2.  There are many neutral links, Christian links, as well as athiest links, and other non-religious links.  I only say this as to not be accused of being bias toward only the Christian links.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism


http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/pcc/pcc03.htm

[falcon9]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

Really?  You'd much rather participate in a pagan celebration preceding winter solstice called "Saturnalia". Primarily a Roman festival, Saturnalia formed the roots for The Fraternis Saturni, an ancient occult order of Saturn worship.  I found it somewhat ironic that a pagan festival was stolen by the xtians, pilfered in turn by "Gregor A. Gregorius" as an offshoot of Aleister Crowley’s Thelema, (both so-called "satanic" offshoots), only to be appropriated by modern day commercialism.

Yeah, that's so much better than giving candy out to little kids, ya cheap 'satanist'!

I posted this in another thread, but since the same subject was brought up in here, I'm posting it in here, too.

Yep, you did and I'll respond only to this copy since you tacked it onto a reply I made.

I would like to suggest that the readers research, if they so desire and/or have the time, paganism/Christian holidays and come to their own conclusion. 

I agree; it's all laid out in non-xtian references, (to avoid vested interest bias).  The timelines for various belief systems, (pagan, xtian, Islamic, etc.), are available to the researcher who isn't predisposed one way or another before they've had a look themselves.

This is a heavy subject and would need some time to go all the way back in time and study what happened from the first pagan celebrations and what they meant, as well as the first Christian celebrations and what they meant.  There is no argument on some of the pagan ideas shifting over to Christian ideas in the early church, but one should know the background and historic relevance between the two groups, and the people involved who made decisions, and the similarities of pagan and Christian groups mainly differing in what and who they worshipped or celebrated.

There are too many links to offer, but I've listed 2.  There are many neutral links, Christian links, as well as athiest links, and other non-religious links.  I only say this as to not be accused of being bias toward only the Christian links.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism

"With a missionary commitment to both Jews and Gentiles (non-Jews), Christianity rapidly spread into the greater Roman empire and beyond. Here, Christianity came into conflict with the dominant Pagan religions."  Such conflict often involved conversion at the point of a sword.
 
By the 2nd century, many Christians were converts from Paganism.  This "conversion" was more often at the point of a sword than not.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/pcc/pcc03.htm

This one has an interesting preface: "Indeed the common notion is that Christianity was really a miraculous interposition into and dislocation of the old order of the world; and that the pagan gods (as in Milton's Hymn on the Nativity) fled away in dismay before the sign of the Cross, and at the sound of the name of Jesus. Doubtless this was a view much encouraged by the early Church itself--if only to enhance its own authority and importance; yet, as is well known to every student, it is quite misleading and contrary to fact. The main Christian doctrines and festivals, besides a great mass of affiliated legend and ceremonial, are really quite directly derived from, and related to, preceding Nature worships; and it has only been by a good deal of deliberate mystification and falsification that this derivation has been kept out of sight."

The substantive point here is that "derived" is somewhat of a misnomer in the context because stolen/pilfered/appropriated/plagiarized/hostile assimilation/absorbed/forceably-suppressed are far more accurate than brushing quickly over it with a misleading, "derived".

[prtee33]

I DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SATAN'S HOLIDAY-----HALLOWEEN !!!

You sound like a good candidate for the flaming doggie doo doo on the porch prank.  Trick or treat!!

[falcon9]

Quote from: jcribb16 on October 16, 2011, 10:20:44 pm

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/pcc/pcc03.htm

This one has an interesting preface: "Indeed the common notion is that Christianity was really a miraculous interposition into and dislocation of the old order of the world; and that the pagan gods (as in Milton's Hymn on the Nativity) fled away in dismay before the sign of the Cross, and at the sound of the name of Jesus. Doubtless this was a view much encouraged by the early Church itself--if only to enhance its own authority and importance; yet, as is well known to every student, it is quite misleading and contrary to fact. The main Christian doctrines and festivals, besides a great mass of affiliated legend and ceremonial, are really quite directly derived from, and related to, preceding Nature worships; and it has only been by a good deal of deliberate mystification and falsification that this derivation has been kept out of sight."

The substantive point here is that "derived" is somewhat of a misnomer in the context because stolen/pilfered/appropriated/plagiarized/hostile assimilation/absorbed/forceably-suppressed are far more accurate than brushing quickly over it with a misleading, "derived".

[chickenmomma8]

Wow some deep conversing here.
It seems to me some people need to go do some research on religion.
My family is mostly Roman Catholics, that did not attend church regularly. I myself have never been baptized and as I have grown older have begun to read a lot about religions. I feel we each have our own beliefs and we should not condemn those that believe differently than we do.
Much of the Christian faith is based on the old religion or what some would call witch craft in modern day. If you don't believe me then do some research on your own. Believe me it will bring to light many questions to your faith and where it originally started.

But to answer the question asked, I like to watch the spooky movies that come out this time of year, my children are all grown now, but we used to enjoy going trick or treating and getting all dressed up in costumes. It was a fun night and some good quality time spent with my children, and to me that is what was most important.