Immigrants in America

[leung1245]

I'm an immigrant. I came here 8 years ago. to get our green card, we waited for a few hours at the airport for one. But to become a citizen... we had to physically live here for 5 years before we could apply for citizenship. Then we have to pass the exam in order to get our citizenship and a US passport.

There are MILLIONS of illegal people here!! If we are going to let them stay or HELP them stay here to make a living, then we have to encourage them and help them get a Visa or Residence green card. Those steps are easier and more practical.

Being a citizen of this country is a LONG TERM goal... immigrants are concerned about staying here to earn money, not necessarily becoming citizens. But if we don't enforce LEGAL papers, then they won't want to go take the SIMPLE STEP of getting a Visa or green card. Many people actually don't know it's not that hard to come here legally. It's not THAT HARD!! But they make it hard, and they don't want to know about it...

[Cuppycake]

I'm an immigrant. I came here 8 years ago. to get our green card, we waited for a few hours at the airport for one. But to become a citizen... we had to physically live here for 5 years before we could apply for citizenship. Then we have to pass the exam in order to get our citizenship and a US passport.

There are MILLIONS of illegal people here!! If we are going to let them stay or HELP them stay here to make a living, then we have to encourage them and help them get a Visa or Residence green card. Those steps are easier and more practical.

Being a citizen of this country is a LONG TERM goal... immigrants are concerned about staying here to earn money, not necessarily becoming citizens. But if we don't enforce LEGAL papers, then they won't want to go take the SIMPLE STEP of getting a Visa or green card. Many people actually don't know it's not that hard to come here legally. It's not THAT HARD!! But they make it hard, and they don't want to know about it...

I applaud you for coming here the right way. Apparently most people are not of your caliber. We need more quality immigrants such as yourself. We also need to eliminate the scum that sneaks in to our country in an underhanded fashion like cockroaches.

[Joeyramone]

I'm for amnesty.  Simply because the resources needed to hunt down people and deport them could be used better elsewhere. If you are for deporting non residents, then encourage your elected officials to go after the people giving them employment.

Nothing will stop them physically from coming here. No fence, no armed border guards.  The only way to stop them from coming here illegally is to go after the pople who hire them.  If a person faced serious fines/jail time for hiring an illegal and it was ACTUALLY ENFORCED that would be the end of the problem.

How will amnsesty fix the employer problem?  It has been tried before and totally failed... One of Reagan's boggest mistakes.  People can be kept out... it works all over the world when it is tried.

Any employer caught repeatedly hiring illegalls should be convicted of a felony, fined, and his company be put on some kind of watch list.  Both greedy business types as well as brainless progressive 'human rights' types are in on the illegal alien cabal.

I am amazed that you actually identify illegal immigration as a problem.  Usually you high minded progressives see nothing worng with hordes of people flooding into the country unchecked, syphoning public dollars, comitting crimes, and suppressing wages.

[falcon9]

Any employer caught repeatedly hiring illegalls should be convicted of a felony, fined, and his company be put on some kind of watch list.  Both greedy business types as well as brainless progressive 'human rights' types are in on the illegal alien cabal.

I am amazed that you actually identify illegal immigration as a problem.  Usually you high minded progressives see nothing worng with hordes of people flooding into the country unchecked, syphoning public dollars, comitting crimes, and suppressing wages.

Landmines along the border?

[gamerpeeps]

Landmines along the border?
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Now there's a clever idea 

[africanclaudie]

I am an immigrant in the US. I arrived here in August 2011.....went through all the running around and paperwork in my own country (which cost a small fortune).....I have my green card and social security number, BUT my qualifications from another country are not valid here in the US! Either I have to go back to college to redo these qualifications at a cost or look for whatever job I can find to make a buck or two.....I chose the latter

[falcon9]

Now there's a clever idea 

Dark humor can be subtle.

[gamerpeeps]

Dark humor can be subtle.
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You got that! hehehe

[falcon9]

Now there's a clever idea  

Dark humor can be subtle.

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You got that! hehehe

We're all "immigrants" in a sense.  Did you know that ancestral tribes of every single "native american" tribe immigrated here too and aren't "native" afterall?  No one does the wandering tribes thing anymore, (except the Romani?), and legal immigration is fine by me.

[falcon9]

Usually you high minded progressives see nothing worng with hordes of people flooding into the country unchecked, syphoning public dollars, comitting crimes, and suppressing wages.

Not to mention a Moroccan man, in the U.S. illegally, who was arrested for plotting to suicide-bomb the country's capital.

[Elizabeth_Garber]

Such a HOT topic these days.  What is the consensus of opinion on this site??  Immigrants made this great nation, and though it seems with the passage of time (and especially since 9/11), they are less then welcomed.  I personally came to the States 37 yrs ago and I knew within a year that this would be my permanent home.  I did it the legal way, but unfortunately there thousands upon thousands who didn't and, because of their illegal status, are now facing deportation to their homeland, even though they may have children born here.  Should amnesty be granted to those hardworking, law-abiding folks whose only charge is seeking a better life for their family?  I  say lets' give them a chance to live in this land, and focus our attention on those illegals who are convicted felons who have nothing to offer but a burden on law enforcement and law-abiding taxpayers!!!

If they are illegal immigrants, I wouldn't qualify them as law-abiding.  What's the point of having any laws at all if people are going to arbitrarily choose the laws they are going to follow?

I fully agree, animikokola.  Especially if they arrived illegally just to have 'anchor babies' here in order to remain in the US, they are not "immigrants"; they're stowaways.  Recall what used to happen to stowaways back when.

Were I agree about the laws needing to be followed and can see the point, I'd like to say I didn't agree with idea of taking people, that have planted their feet firmly on solid ground and spread roots. Up rooting them after so many years seems cruel. I don't however agree that they should just walk away, a warning to them to get their legal right to be here should be issued, and a time for them to get it done right in placed. If they need help getting the money need to make them 'official' needs to be given then lets find away. But lets not punish the children already born here because their parents wanted to raise them in a better place. Although I am going to say I don't know how much better the U.S. really is, after all its become a rather greedy country and would make our forefathers very sad. They might see it as we are turning into those which we fled from back years, and years ago.

[falcon9]

Were I agree about the laws needing to be followed and can see the point, I'd like to say I didn't agree with idea of taking people, that have planted their feet firmly on solid ground and spread roots. Up rooting them after so many years seems cruel.

If they're here illegally, (anchor babies or not), being arrested and deported may seem "cruel" however, these are the legal consequences of their choices.

I don't however agree that they should just walk away, a warning to them to get their legal right to be here should be issued, and a time for them to get it done right in placed. 

No doubt immigrating legally was either not considered an option or, disregarded as one.  Once they're already here, they've had the opportunity to become legal citizens, got arrested at the border or, have chosen to remain in-country illegally.

[SherylsShado]

Were I agree about the laws needing to be followed and can see the point, I'd like to say I didn't agree with idea of taking people, that have planted their feet firmly on solid ground and spread roots. Up rooting them after so many years seems cruel.

If they're here illegally, (anchor babies or not), being arrested and deported may seem "cruel" however, these are the legal consequences of their choices.

I don't however agree that they should just walk away, a warning to them to get their legal right to be here should be issued, and a time for them to get it done right in placed.  

No doubt immigrating legally was either not considered an option or, disregarded as one.  Once they're already here, they've had the opportunity to become legal citizens, got arrested at the border or, have chosen to remain in-country illegally.

  I'm confused falcon9...mostly because that quote posted above...I don't remember posting that...

[falcon9]

I'm confused falcon9...mostly because that quote posted above...I don't remember posting that...

Sorry, that was a mistaken quote which came from "Elizabeth_Garber", not you.  The error occurred while replying to more than one person in more than one thread.  Either that or, some miscreant was 'praying' for me to make a mistake, (which is unecessary as I am quite capable of making my own mistakes, unaided).

[SherylsShado]

I'm confused falcon9...mostly because that quote posted above...I don't remember posting that...

Sorry, that was a mistaken quote which came from "Elizabeth_Garber", not you.  The error occurred while replying to more than one person in more than one thread.  Either that or, some miscreant was 'praying' for me to make a mistake, (which is unecessary as I am quite capable of making my own mistakes, unaided).

lol...no prob. (I read that and re-read that and thought I was losing my mind as that didn't sound like me at all.)