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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #300 on: August 04, 2012, 11:51:27 am »
The *bold/underlined parts are written by you so much better than how I could have worded them. 

Those words of his constitute falsehoods/lies since I have posted non-religious/non-prayer 'positive' suggestions along with other posts indicating a disregard for specious intercessory magical rituals, ("prayers").

A "backhanded compliment" is no more of a compliment than your insulting (and self ascribed) backhanded sympathies would be sympathies.  Are you so blind and numb to the emotional considerations of others that you cannot recognize this?  Or do you consider emotion to be unimportant in the human being (even though it is the primary motivator and even initiates the logic center of the human brain)?  Emotion, after all, is not logical or rational yet it is at the core of what is the human being.  How can you pretend to imagine that any action you make is rational when every action you make is triggered by the irrational?  How can you not realize that your obsessive hatred for Christianity is actually a manifestation of your own irrational emotions?  Have you never even considered and measured your own animosity (have you even recognized it as the emotion that it is) and realized that it is exactly that "your own animosity"?  I find it laughable that there are people like yourselves that pretend to be 'enlightened' and yet haven't even taken the basics steps towards understanding their own perspective and the implications of their own view having a source.

You are in many ways like a control freak, that has so much imbalance within their own life and is so impotent to address and correct their own problems that they project them upon others and then try to control and correct the actions of others. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2012, 11:55:19 am »
The *bold/underlined parts are written by you so much better than how I could have worded them. 

Thank you, perhaps I got lucky as sometimes my meaning gets obscured with my long winded nature.  I think that bit was key, as it is something that he either cannot see or is in total denial of.  Either way he exhibits the blindness or intentional self delusional state that he so oft accuses others of possessing.  He doesn't seem to realize that he is exactly what he accuses others of being.
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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Re: Lets Be disHonest About Praying
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2012, 12:12:53 pm »
Emotion, after all, is not logical or rational yet it is at the core of what is the human being.  How can you pretend to imagine that any action you make is rational when every action you make is triggered by the irrational?

I don't "pretend to imagine" any such thing.  Are you finally admitting that your religious beliefs are triggered by irrational emotions and have no basis in logic whatsoever?  

How can you not realize that your obsessive hatred for Christianity is actually a manifestation of your own irrational emotions?

That assumption is based upon posts made on an online forum, by an unqualified religious fundamentalist ... it can be easily disregarded as specious. Since I rarely interact with such overtly mind-blinded fundies offline, (they have the minimal sense to keep their blind faith to themselves offline - which is very revealing of xtians in an uncomplimentary way), no such "hatred" is manifested.  This means it isn't obsessive or, even "hatred".  Your misattributions are rejected as being mere attempts at diverting attention away from the blind faith basis of your specious religious beliefs.

If such is "triggered by your emotions", then why not embrace your irrationality instead of trying to paint a pseudo-logical veneer over illogic?    

You are in many ways like a control freak, that has so much imbalance within their own life and is so impotent to address and correct their own problems that they project them upon others and then try to control and correct the actions of others.  

Incorrect; I have no desire to "control" the irrationality of others.  I am free to indicate it, object to it, or oppose it however.  Further, I never claimed to be bereft of illogical emotions; I simply do not hold specious religious beliefs based upon them, like you do.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #303 on: August 04, 2012, 12:24:08 pm »
I think that bit was key, as it is something that he either cannot see or is in total denial of.

Since "that bit" was false, you appear to be admitting that your lies are "key" to your own denials. 

Either way he exhibits the blindness or intentional self delusional state that he so oft accuses others of possessing.  He doesn't seem to realize that he is exactly what he accuses others of being.

The simplististic "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I" argument of a child will not avail you since it does not apply to me.  This repetitious pattern of yours, (fabricating accusations and then proceding as if such unsubstantiated road apples were factual), continues to serve as evidence of your self-delusions.  You've demonstrated no such "blindness" on my part, (I'm well aware of emotions underlying thoughts).  No "intentional self delusional state" on my part has been supported by evidence, (this is simply another of your ad hominum fabrications sans evidence).  I hold no emotionally-based specious religious beliefs therefore, pointing out that you religious adherents do is not 'exactly what others are being "accused" of - it's the exact opposite.  I tire of your specious lies, posted as if there were accurate representations.  From this point on, your lies will be indicated and numbered for future reference.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #304 on: August 04, 2012, 02:53:53 pm »
If someone ask me to pray for them I do, because I know God answers prayers.

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #305 on: August 04, 2012, 02:57:22 pm »
If someone ask me to pray for them I do, because I know God answers prayers.

No, you believe such a thing.  Knowing it implies the veracity of attributable evidence, not "faith's" lack of evidence.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #306 on: August 04, 2012, 06:32:42 pm »
The *bold/underlined parts are written by you so much better than how I could have worded them. 

Those words of his constitute falsehoods/lies since I have posted non-religious/non-prayer 'positive' suggestions along with other posts indicating a disregard for specious intercessory magical rituals, ("prayers").
Wrong.  They are not "falsehoods/lies" just because you say so.  That sounds like a petulant child stomping his feet, crossing his arms, and shouting out his way or the highway. 

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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #307 on: August 04, 2012, 06:54:27 pm »
The *bold/underlined parts are written by you so much better than how I could have worded them. 

Those words of his constitute falsehoods/lies since I have posted non-religious/non-prayer 'positive' suggestions along with other posts indicating a disregard for specious intercessory magical rituals, ("prayers").

Wrong.  They are not "falsehoods/lies" just because you say so.  That sounds like a petulant child stomping his feet, crossing his arms, and shouting out his way or the highway. 

It isn't a matter of my just saying so; the evidence supporting my contention exists whereas no evidence supporting his contention exists, (which makes them fabrications/lies).  Your self-delusions extend beyond religious considerations into an inability to discern the difference between a supported claim and an unsupported one.
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Re: Lets Be Honest About Praying
« Reply #308 on: August 04, 2012, 07:23:24 pm »
When you tell someone I'm praying for you, or We'll pray for you, do you really do it?

No, people who say this don't do it; it's just something they say to put the absolute least effort forward to pretend they're doing something about a situation.  Or they say it to be a self-righteous *bleep* to people they "pity" (like atheists).

While we're being "honest" about prayer -- you can get the same results praying to a jug of milk.
I beg to differ. I am a christian, my faith is strong.When I tell someone i'll pray for them I do. Granted, It is right thean and sometime once a week until I hear they   are doing better.

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