confused and dissappointed

[gamerpeeps]

Since I haven't specifically 'bashed' religion, (unless questioning the basis for such 'beliefs' is somehow considered to be "bashing"), and have initiated debate upon those premises, I find that your characterization doesn't reflect the actual content of posts made.  Do you have a specific example of "religion bashing" which is not a perceptual interpretation?

The original intention of the postings here are to provide comfort and suggestions for a person in need. Your comments are initiating a debate that is not helpful to her or appropriate here.  If you want to debate prayer or religion, then start another discussion.  My characterization of your religion bashing did not come from just your postings here but the noticing of many posts you have made. All interpretation is perceptual!

"Tone" is an elusive aspect of the written word.  Depending upon any given context, it is quite possible that even "hi there!" can come across as "hostile and offensive" through biased eyes.  Some people are apt to perceive any challenge to their unsupported opinions as being "hostile and offensive", (even when there was no such intent).  Others will read the _same exact challenge_ and perceive that without the added emotional undertones.  Eye of the beholder and all that, nyet?

Da, biased eyes, you're not guilty of that are you? Are we not all biased until something changes our mind? "Aspect" is the way something may be regarded which is the definition of "tone"; the style/manner of the writing. No emotional undertones here, simply a perceptional interpretation.

[tantricia44]

dmahoney ~ I'm still in the bottom of the pit. Since my husband passed away March 2, 2009 it was like I too died. What's getting me through, is good memories & 2 spoiled brat cats that he adored. Thinking back growing up, when I'm in a really downer situation, I stop push the negative thoughts away & think of another time where I was in distress but was able to live through it. And use that feedback to survive this new darkness.

Also, give falcon9 a chance, he's just trying to make you think for yourself. Whether or not you believe in a higher power, its you that will face the situation head on. Good Luck!

[dmahoney]

I still appreciate all replys. As for falcon, I am on here in a down mood, as you can tell by my post and looking for inspiratation and help. He comes on here and is negative as usual. I have seen his posts many times and I can not think of a post he has made that has been upbeat or kind to anyone. I wish him well, but if he can not be kind to someone in my situation, he should just not post anything at all and leave us alone.

[natashaspy]

try meditating.  just find a quiet place, settle down..try to empty your mind and relax.  then just let the thoughts of what you should be doing come to you in their own time

[hipriestess4u]

prayer is miraculous, look at the mandelbot form created by speaking into sand  it is incredible what the sound does  beautiful patterns that an artist could not duplicate,  so Pray because god hears all of your prayers.

hipriesess4u

[falcon9]

I still appreciate all replys. As for falcon, I am on here in a down mood, as you can tell by my post and looking for inspiratation and help. He comes on here and is negative as usual.

The solution is simple; use the "ignore" button.

I have seen his posts many times and I can not think of a post he has made that has been upbeat or kind to anyone.

There have been dozens of such posts; you are apparently focussed upon only those which you perceive as "negative".  This reveals a biased slant to your perceptions and may indicate a more general pattern which affects your attitude, (this is an extrapolated speculation; that you are seeing only 'what's going badly and not what's going well').  Consider this or not, that's your choice.

I wish him well, but if he can not be kind to someone in my situation, he should just not post anything at all and leave us alone.

I'm not aware of the specifics of your situation however, I am aware of several external attempts to modify what I post and where I post it, (even and especially when such posts do not violate FC's TOS or posting guidelines).  As to well-wishing, your somewhat contradictory comment tends to indicate that all you sought was further well-wishing not "help".  That's your choice; please endeavor not to infringe upon mine.

[falcon9]

prayer is miraculous, look at the mandelbot form created by speaking into sand  it is incredible what the sound does  beautiful patterns that an artist could not duplicate,  so Pray because god hears all of your prayers.

hipriesess4u

Such patterns do not constitute evidence of "god" nor, that "prayers" have anything to do with those patterns.  These are speculated attributions, not "proof" since the example presented cannot be accurately correlated with the conclusion, (that constitutes circular 'reasoning'; as when the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in one of the premises).

[gamerpeeps]

Oh my, Falcon 9 ignored my post! 

[falcon9]

Oh my, Falcon 9 ignored my post! 

Patience.  Despite many common misperceptions, I don't necessarily reply to every post, (same as anyone else).

[falcon9]

My characterization of your religion bashing did not come from just your postings here but the noticing of many posts you have made. All interpretation is perceptual!

True, I sit corrected and should not have omitted the modifier, 'accurate', preceding "perceptual interpretation".  All interpretations are perceptual however, not all such interpretations, (or perceptions), are an accurate apprehension.

"Tone" is an elusive aspect of the written word.  Depending upon any given context, it is quite possible that even "hi there!" can come across as "hostile and offensive" through biased eyes.  Some people are apt to perceive any challenge to their unsupported opinions as being "hostile and offensive", (even when there was no such intent).  Others will read the _same exact challenge_ and perceive that without the added emotional undertones.  Eye of the beholder and all that, nyet?

Da, biased eyes, you're not guilty of that are you? Are we not all biased until something changes our mind?

Where bias conveys implicit preconceptions, I endeavor to identify and eliminate any such that I may hold, (although I will admit to certain prejudice against willful stupidity).  Instead, I am apparently bucking the general trend and basing conclusions on the best available evidence, (at worst, educated guesses rather than superficially-biased empty opinion).

"Aspect" is the way something may be regarded which is the definition of "tone"; the style/manner of the writing. No emotional undertones here, simply a perceptional interpretation.

You mentioned 'religion bashing' specifically; does this not inherently contain certain "emotional undertones", (not to mention an implicit bias attached to the word "bashing" as a speculative perception)?

[quietpal]

I don't know what your beliefs are, but I agree with others in that you could ask God for answers. I've been there before, so I know what you're going through, and I'm happy to say that I came out on the other side. My attitude has changed and I'm so full of hope. As long as you have hope, you have reason to keep pushing. Don't give up!

[froggylover227]

I think everyone goes through this at some point in their life. I know I have. And I'm only 26! The best thing to do is talk with someone about it. Whether that person is a psychiatrist, a parent, a sibling, or a friend. Sometimes you can't express yourself by talking. I know because I couldn't. Instead, what I did was I wrote down everything I felt on paper. It was just easier for me to write it out on paper than try to say it when talking. You will get through it, trust me. If I could, anyone can. And just remember that this is YOUR life, no one else's. You can shape it to be whatever you want it to be. Sometimes that involves making hard decisions, but you gotta worry about yourself for now, and do what you can to make it so that you don't feel this way.

[falcon9]

I think everyone goes through this at some point in their life. I know I have. And I'm only 26! The best thing to do is talk with someone about it. Whether that person is a psychiatrist, a parent, a sibling, or a friend. Sometimes you can't express yourself by talking. I know because I couldn't. Instead, what I did was I wrote down everything I felt on paper. It was just easier for me to write it out on paper than try to say it when talking. You will get through it, trust me. If I could, anyone can. And just remember that this is YOUR life, no one else's. You can shape it to be whatever you want it to be. Sometimes that involves making hard decisions, but you gotta worry about yourself for now, and do what you can to make it so that you don't feel this way.

This is good, pragmatic advice.

[vicogden]

I know how you feel.  I've been dazed and confused for so long it's not true... oh wait, I think that's part of a Led Zep song.  But I have seriously felt depressed on several occasions.  Sometimes the best cure is as simple as just talking to someone.  However, looking inward can do the trick as well.  Try some quiet meditation or prayer.  Good luck!

[batmobile]

 

Have you ever gotten to a point where you are confused and dissapointed about everything in your life. I mean your marriage, friends, home, etc. If you have what did you do about it? Did you make it better or fix it? How long does this go on or is it a faze? Some insite from others would be appreciated!

hope you work through it sounds like marraige issues