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liljp617

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2009, 12:24:21 am »
Demons appear in most addicts. I know this from NA meetings that I went to years and years back. I was fighting the demons within myself. I dont care who says this is not true because I bealived it. Demons is mostly a state of mind for the weak, which I was at the time. Demons could be many forms of problems in individuals, not just addiction. I do not in any way say the demons made me do the drugs. I did but as I like to say the demons awoke inside of me.
I dont understand why someone would say that to you and im sorry you went through that as a child.

Chemical imbalances in the mind; electricity in the brain gone bad.  If you want to call those demons, fair enough.

The opening post is implying there are actual supernatural, physical beings called demons that hurt people.  Childish nonsense.


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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2009, 02:42:42 am »
lil ur dead on  :thumbsup:

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2009, 05:14:31 am »
Yes, I believe they exist because they tempt us to harm ourselves or others. Sometimes you just have to walk away from hellish situations.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2009, 02:29:19 pm »
Yeah cause its impossible for the human mind to commit 'sinful acts'

Lulz

My parents are jehovahwitness, and they believe Demons can actually come thru the TV, and Music CDs xD

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2009, 02:39:52 pm »
Demons appear in most addicts. I know this from NA meetings that I went to years and years back. I was fighting the demons within myself. I dont care who says this is not true because I bealived it. Demons is mostly a state of mind for the weak, which I was at the time. Demons could be many forms of problems in individuals, not just addiction. I do not in any way say the demons made me do the drugs. I did but as I like to say the demons awoke inside of me.
I dont understand why someone would say that to you and im sorry you went through that as a child.

Chemical imbalances in the mind; electricity in the brain gone bad.  If you want to call those demons, fair enough.

The opening post is implying there are actual supernatural, physical beings called demons that hurt people.  Childish nonsense.

If that is the question here. Then, NO. I do not bealive there are physical beings called demons. Although some people do, I just do not think that way.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2009, 08:37:40 pm »
"My parents are jehovahwitness, and they believe Demons can actually come thru the TV, and Music CDs xD"

Haha wtf!? I know some jw's and I thought they were people who werent into believing in weird stuff like that. I thought it was more for the crazy hands-in-the-air evangelicals, you know? Correct me if I'm wrong-- I'd love to hear your story  ;D

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2009, 08:49:26 pm »
well i think ghost do exist i have actually seen them so yes

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2009, 11:14:11 pm »
I believe that if there is good then there has to be bad
If there is heaven then there has to be hell
So on and so forth....
It has to keep the balance in life.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2009, 06:44:48 am »
I believe that if there is good then there has to be bad
If there is heaven then there has to be hell
So on and so forth....
It has to keep the balance in life.

How awesome it would be if everything were this simple.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2009, 07:02:08 am »
I personally believe demons do exist (and are by no means 'mythological'), and can show up in a lot of different ways and many different forms (evil spirits, negativity, drugs, etc.), but definately NOT by just saying the word 'demon'.  It sounds to me like what you grew up in was more like a cult than anything else.  I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2009, 10:20:51 am »
I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.

So...what you're saying is that if I don't believe in them and think they have zero power, then they actually don't exist and don't have any power?  Pretty silly.

Belief or lack of belief in something has no bearing on its existence or lack there of.  They either exist or don't, regardless of how much you believe or disbelieve in them.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2009, 01:05:20 pm »
I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.

So...what you're saying is that if I don't believe in them and think they have zero power, then they actually don't exist and don't have any power?  Pretty silly.

Belief or lack of belief in something has no bearing on its existence or lack there of.  They either exist or don't, regardless of how much you believe or disbelieve in them.

I am by no means saying if you don't believe in them they don't exist.  What I was trying to say is that they can't hurt you unless you believe they can hurt you.  I said nothing at all about them not existing if you don't believe in them or their powers.

Demons are discussed all throughout the Bible, and anyone that is Christian (including JW) would know that.  But a person's faith or lack there of can increase or diminish the power they have over them and their lives.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 01:12:07 pm »
I think its a bad thing to scare a child with...however I didnt used to believe in hell, satan, or demons until my personal experience...

when I was 17 my roommate went out with some friends, and came back about 2 hours later. All the friends said they were with her the whole time, and she only had 2 beers. No drugs, nothing else, and they said there was no way anyone put anything in her drink. Well she was just sitting on the couch talking to me, and all of a sudden she stood up and started growling & screaming, foam coming out of her mouth, saying she was a child of satan and talking in tongues. Her eyes rolled back in her head, turned red, and she had blood coming out of her eyes, nose & mouth.This girl was just a normal, christian girl, and nothing provoked it, she just started doing it in the middle of a conversation. She would come in & out of being herself, normal for a moment, then freak out again...we called her parents and when they got there they started praying and she attacked & bit them, went nuts & broke most of the stuff in the apartment. They took her to the hospital and she finally calmed down & they couldnt find anything wrong with her. It was the WEIRDEST thing Ive ever seen. Plus we had just moved there and the apt. is on an indian burial ground.

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2009, 01:18:04 pm »
I think its a bad thing to scare a child with...however I didnt used to believe in hell, satan, or demons until my personal experience...

when I was 17 my roommate went out with some friends, and came back about 2 hours later. All the friends said they were with her the whole time, and she only had 2 beers. No drugs, nothing else, and they said there was no way anyone put anything in her drink. Well she was just sitting on the couch talking to me, and all of a sudden she stood up and started growling & screaming, foam coming out of her mouth, saying she was a child of satan and talking in tongues. Her eyes rolled back in her head, turned red, and she had blood coming out of her eyes, nose & mouth.This girl was just a normal, christian girl, and nothing provoked it, she just started doing it in the middle of a conversation. She would come in & out of being herself, normal for a moment, then freak out again...we called her parents and when they got there they started praying and she attacked & bit them, went nuts & broke most of the stuff in the apartment. They took her to the hospital and she finally calmed down & they couldnt find anything wrong with her. It was the WEIRDEST thing Ive ever seen. Plus we had just moved there and the apt. is on an indian burial ground.

I laughed out loud...awesome story.  Have you considered writing a book or movie script?

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Re: does anyone belive in demons
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2009, 01:19:15 pm »
It's been said by lil better than I could say it, I just want to add that threatening children with demons, or hell should be considered child abuse. It affects them and their ability to reason well into adulthood.

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