Defunding and abolishing Police Departments

[linderlizzie]

This one kills me, but I was wondering how FCers feel about it.

What will they do when they are victims of crime?

If there is rioting in the streets, will they just hide out until it's over?

This is Minnesota's wonderful plan and I hope it doesn't spread like a virus; pun intended.

[sfreeman8]

Did you hear Ms. Bender (a council member)? Alysa Camarota questioned her on if her house was broken into, who should she call?  Bender stated that was  privilege. Probably social workers and psychiatrists would handle calls. Huh? Did I hear that right? You can't have anarchy. That's what happens with a coup. Look at Cuba and Venezuela. They had protests and riots back in the day. Are they free today? I am beginning to believe the "lockdowns" because of COVID-19 is a test to see if people will go along with the rules. Three months for some states? AND every time you think they're going to start reopening their state, they slap more lockdown time. I know, sounds like a conspiracy theory but my county sent a letter to the Governor requesting why they couldn't to yellow. Because of it, we were punished and counties around us were allowed to go yellow but not us and we had less active cases and deaths than they did. Then, all of a sudden, the active cases and deaths went up every day until the county backed down....and so did the number of cases.

There are more states jumping onboard this ridiculous idea. Why should they defund the police for programs that are already in existence?  Why haven't the leaders given enough funding over the years? They screwed up and expect the taxpayers to cover their sorry butts! Why double up on programs?

[Donnamarg323]

I know many dont care,but the bible says to be in subjection to mans laws as long as they dont compromise Gods until Gods kingdom rules the earth from heaven.

IOW not a good idea in Mn.

[stevensm4]

Defunding and abolishing police departments is not a good idea as we clearly see an indication of what is to come if that were to happen. As much as people have problems with authority, its needed to establish and maintain order.

[pkrahmer]

neither action with solve the problem.
community involvement with police and basic respect for everyone is at least a start.

[vg7405]

I do not think that defunding police departments are the answer. I believe the number of good police officers far outweigh the bad ones; perhaps scrubbing the rank and file and eliminating the bad apples is a better option. This should be followed by measures to help improve the relationship between police departments and local communities.

[sfreeman8]

Point: CHOP has no police department. The people who live there (regular people, not CHOP people) say they fear for their lives. People come banging on their doors at night and want in and want them to pay to be there (the well-known protection game). They can't say anything to reporters and if they do, they can't give their names and can't have their faces shown for fear of retaliation.

Even those residing there are fearing some of these people. There was a video of a supposed citizen of CHAZ, a street preacher who was held down by Antifa and put in a chokehold because he screams “I am free citizen!” They took his speaker  and at one point held him face down like George Floyd then a gay man forcibly kisses and hugs him without his permission. They have guns and the "leader" handed them out to teenagers.

Yeah, real peaceful group. A reporter tried to get out of there even though she wasn't behind the barriers and she and her crew was harassed for 8 blocks, to the point that one female tried to hit her with an umbrella. Some did tried to assault the crew and her but two guys from the group did protect them. He told them to leave yet they were walking away and weren't even in CHOP/CHAZ area. The language and the violence they said they were going to do was horrific. They were saved by a fire dept. personnel watching from their building and opened the doors for them to come in. Young idiotic college age Antifa and anarchists.

[king4cash]

It is a stupid idea, that will lead to unsafe communities and schools..

[tantricia44]

I think we should start by cleaning up the dirty cops employeed at these disgraceful police departments first!

[UGetPaid]

I think we should start by cleaning up the dirty cops employeed at these disgraceful police departments first!

Getting rid of dirty cops is a great idea. Unfairly lumping in and defunding those cops who are good people in a really tough job is a despicable idea. (Just to be clear, I am not equating what you said, tantricia, to mean the latter; but rather what much of the popular opinion seems to be saying).
Wake up America!

[Donnamarg323]

Who can argue against,"a little leaven ferments the whole batch"

Jesus said if U have faith the size of a mustard seed U could move a mountain.

NOT many have enuff faith that God will eventually correct ALL the problems on earth.....or want him to....or are too blind that they think HE arranged for man to die and go to heaven or hell.....that the bible doesnt teach.

Again it says the righteous will inherit the earth forever and God created the earth NOT for nothing but to be inhabited.

[santa7]

I do not think that defunding police departments are the answer. I believe the number of good police officers far outweigh the bad ones; perhaps scrubbing the rank and file and eliminating the bad apples is a better option. This should be followed by measures to help improve the relationship between police departments and local communities.

I agree.

[cmoney4IG]

I used to work as a budget analyst for the federal government.  I have also worked for state and city government organizations.  Whether you know it or not, funds are reprogrammed or transferred often between various government organizations.  It's a SOAPP (Standard Operational and Administrative Policy and Procedure).

It's just that when an average American citizen hears the words “DEFUND THE POLICE”, they go into panic mode and think that when they dial 9-1-1  … The Calvary won't show up to save them! 

It's not that drastic.  In fact, it's not like that at all.  Government officials are not that stupid!! 

By the way defund is absolutely not the same thing as abolish.
~ America abolished slavery.  Nobody is asking to abolish the police departments!

The fact that “somebody” decided to yell the words “Defund The Police” in a crowd of angry protesters at least it put “something” on the table … i.e. a proposed solution, if you will,  to deal with a real serious deadly problem!  I don't know if Minnesota's approach will work.  But the “ones in charge” can't keep sweeping The Problem under the rug.  They ... We ... need to approach this matter, give it serious thought and planning, and come up with solution for the entire community.

Because “IT” happens too many times!

People should not be afraid of the police who are supposed to serve and protect them.

Police should not believe that they can get away with murdering a citizen because they can write it up as in the line of duty.

[arobinson1331]

I used to work as a budget analyst for the federal government.  I have also worked for state and city government organizations.  Whether you know it or not, funds are reprogrammed or transferred often between various government organizations.  It's a SOAPP (Standard Operational and Administrative Policy and Procedure).

It's just that when an average American citizen hears the words “DEFUND THE POLICE”, they go into panic mode and think that when they dial 9-1-1  … The Calvary won't show up to save them! 

It's not that drastic.  In fact, it's not like that at all.  Government officials are not that stupid!! 

By the way defund is absolutely not the same thing as abolish.
~ America abolished slavery.  Nobody is asking to abolish the police departments!

The fact that “somebody” decided to yell the words “Defund The Police” in a crowd of angry protesters at least it put “something” on the table … i.e. a proposed solution, if you will,  to deal with a real serious deadly problem!  I don't know if Minnesota's approach will work.  But the “ones in charge” can't keep sweeping The Problem under the rug.  They ... We ... need to approach this matter, give it serious thought and planning, and come up with solution for the entire community.

Because “IT” happens too many times!

People should not be afraid of the police who are supposed to serve and protect them.

Police should not believe that they can get away with murdering a citizen because they can write it up as in the line of duty.

slavery wasn't actually abolished. modern day slavery very much exists with prison labor.

[Donnamarg323]

I used to work as a budget analyst for the federal government.  I have also worked for state and city government organizations.  Whether you know it or not, funds are reprogrammed or transferred often between various government organizations.  It's a SOAPP (Standard Operational and Administrative Policy and Procedure).

It's just that when an average American citizen hears the words “DEFUND THE POLICE”, they go into panic mode and think that when they dial 9-1-1  … The Calvary won't show up to save them! 

It's not that drastic.  In fact, it's not like that at all.  Government officials are not that stupid!! 

By the way defund is absolutely not the same thing as abolish.
~ America abolished slavery.  Nobody is asking to abolish the police departments!

The fact that “somebody” decided to yell the words “Defund The Police” in a crowd of angry protesters at least it put “something” on the table … i.e. a proposed solution, if you will,  to deal with a real serious deadly problem!  I don't know if Minnesota's approach will work.  But the “ones in charge” can't keep sweeping The Problem under the rug.  They ... We ... need to approach this matter, give it serious thought and planning, and come up with solution for the entire community.

Because “IT” happens too many times!

People should not be afraid of the police who are supposed to serve and protect them.

Police should not believe that they can get away with murdering a citizen because they can write it up as in the line of duty.

slavery wasn't actually abolished. modern day slavery very much exists with prison labor.

I am not referring to slavery,but i think putting an inmate to work might build some charactor in them.I know they dont make a lot of money but they do get a wage and their work may help the prison overall in some way for better conditions.It might even help them sleep and have a better feeling towards themselves and others.