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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2010, 07:23:04 pm »
A staple, John 3:16 For God so loved the work that he gave his only begotton son...

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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2010, 07:40:03 pm »
One of my favorites:    1 Corinthians 2:9   "As it is written, no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined, the glorious things God has prepared for those who love him."

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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2010, 08:39:55 pm »
Here's my favorite one:

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized, every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  Acts 2:38

Okay..........here goes:

No one here has got the right answer about blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.  You have to "have" the witness of the Holy Ghost in order to blaspheme it (if you turn from it).  Unforgiveness will surely find you lost.  Living in sin until death will surely find you lost.  These sins can be repented of and forgiven on earth.  Blasphemy cannot.

(Paraphrased) You have to take the whole story in context, where the Lord is talking about this subject, and what prompted Him to do so.  In the 12th Chapter of Matthew, starting in the 22nd verse, it talks of Jesus casting a devil out of someone. The religious leaders of that day (Pharisees) claimed that Jesus cast out the devil because He was in league with the devil, and therefore could cast them out.  Jesus explained that the devil against the devil would surely fall.  In other words satan cannot cast out satan, or his kingdom wouldn't stand.

Then He said, if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the Spirit of God, is come upon you (in other words, God is at work here and not satan).  He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathers not with me, scatters abroad.  He was making a clear distinction of what power was at work in the casting out.

Then right after this.....Direct quote form the Bible:
Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and BLASPHEMY shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.  Matthew 12:31-32

If you have been filled with God's Spirit, and tasted the goodness of Him, and witnessed His Shekinah Glory and Power, His marvelous works, seen His manifested power, and talked in the heavenly language, THEN turn away, and call it the devil's work....that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.  There is no forgiveness for that.  You cannot witness God at work, then say it is the work of the devil.....that is blasphemy.  
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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2010, 09:05:39 pm »
Marieelissa, We as Christians are to love the lost, no matter how angry they may make us.  If something is said against the Bible or our Lord......do not retaliate with anger.  There is a time and place for rebuke, but not when people are just trying to find out an answer.  Name calling on both sides is rude, and does nothing but fuel the fires of rage in others.  We are to be wise.  Forgiveness and love is expected of us, and to keep the faith.  There are those on here that have a good grasp of scripture and can answer some questions, but not to the point of arguing.  That never solves anything.

I don't know anybody who is going to hell.  I won't know that until judgement.  Everybody has the ability to find their Savior on this earth.  My wish is that everybody makes it.  The Bible tells us not everybody will, but we have no right to point fingers and tell anyone they are going to hell.  It's not our call.  Don't be vengeful.  The Lord will take care of righting the scales in His own time.

My heart hurts for those on here who are actually wanting some true answers.  I want them to be saved.  There are also those that have flat rejected the Lord and His teachings.  Ignore them.  We can only pray for them.  Not write hateful things to them.  The Bible says by their fruits you will know them.  Then you know how to act accordingly.  Sometimes silence says the most.  Here lies wisdom.

I've said this before.  You seem young in the Lord, and that's okay.  We're all just trying to be perfected in the
Faith.  No one has arrived or has all the answers.  Your fervent in your faith, and that's a good thing.  Just let the Lord do a bit more leading in how you respond.  This is not a rebuke dear, just an observation that you may be doing more harm than good.  I love you.

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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2010, 11:15:57 pm »
God is a type of person to me. I refer to Him as my heavenly father.....so if you say my Dad was like charles manson then, to me it's the same thing.

If your dad commanded people to murder others, I wouldn't have any much problem making the same comparison.

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you said God murdered people.

He did (you accepted this).

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And if you really think you understand the context of the OT and still think God is comparable to charles manson then you ARE ignorant. But that is my opinion of course. I'm sure you probably think the same of me.

I understand the context well enough and know the generic Christian excuses for what goes on in that glorious book.

As for the comparison, still has not been invalidated in the least:

Charles Manson commanded others to murder (a given).
God commanded others to murder (again, you accepted this was true).

What's the issue?  The only issue I see is one party is constantly excused and the other rots in a jail cell for decades.  Bit inconsistent to say the least.

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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2010, 11:31:27 pm »
I don't believe there is any shame in questioning or asking...or even having moments of weakness.  I am not a Christian, I'm Jewish, but I do recall that Jesus had a moment of weakness himself.  "My lord, my lord, why have you forsaken me?" 

Everyone gets upset and says things they shouldn't say.  The importance is in accepting the responsibility for your actions.  Yes, you believe Jesus died for your sins; however, shouldn't you also try to live the good life...live like Jesus did, and take responsibility.  I have no problem with anyone who has said the wrong thing...until they continue on this path no matter how wrong they are, and no matter how wrong they know they are.  Jews know how to forgive, too.  I, personally, have no issues forgiving...I do not forget, though. 

I am not the easiest person to get along with.  I have a short temper, and I have a tendency to call people out on their  :bs:.  I can be offensive and abrasive and sarcastic.  I push people to look at their views and question the why behind them.  I have a hard time with complacency without thought.  I don't have problems with people who have faith.  I believe faith is a very personal thing, and that everyone's faith is different.  I take issue, though, with someone telling others they are wrong with what they believe and passing judgment on someone they don't even know. 

It is important to question things.  I believe that g-d is forgiving, and g-d can be kind.  I also believe g-d wants me to question things.  When Eve ate the apple, she chose knowledge over immortality.  To waste that opportunity for knowledge would be wrong. 



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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2010, 11:33:37 pm »
Marieelissa, We as Christians are to love the lost, no matter how angry they may make us.  If something is said against the Bible or our Lord......do not retaliate with anger.  There is a time and place for rebuke, but not when people are just trying to find out an answer.  Name calling on both sides is rude, and does nothing but fuel the fires of rage in others.  We are to be wise.  Forgiveness and love is expected of us, and to keep the faith.  There are those on here that have a good grasp of scripture and can answer some questions, but not to the point of arguing.  That never solves anything.

I don't know anybody who is going to hell.  I won't know that until judgement.  Everybody has the ability to find their Savior on this earth.  My wish is that everybody makes it.  The Bible tells us not everybody will, but we have no right to point fingers and tell anyone they are going to hell.  It's not our call.  Don't be vengeful.  The Lord will take care of righting the scales in His own time.

My heart hurts for those on here who are actually wanting some true answers.  I want them to be saved.  There are also those that have flat rejected the Lord and His teachings.  Ignore them.  We can only pray for them.  Not write hateful things to them.  The Bible says by their fruits you will know them.  Then you know how to act accordingly.  Sometimes silence says the most.  Here lies wisdom.

I've said this before.  You seem young in the Lord, and that's okay.  We're all just trying to be perfected in the
Faith.  No one has arrived or has all the answers.  Your fervent in your faith, and that's a good thing.  Just let the Lord do a bit more leading in how you respond.  This is not a rebuke dear, just an observation that you may be doing more harm than good.  I love you.

 :heart:  :heart:  :heart:

That's my girl!

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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2010, 08:03:02 am »
I think she meant that once you get the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues, if you then turn away proclaiming it the work of the devil, that is unforgivable. If these people have never spoken in tongues, it's not possible for them turn away from something they never had.

I'm not in agreement that that is the unforgivable sin but that is my understanding of what Annella was saying.  :)

Also I have to give an official apology to hometeachin and liljp. Because I pointed out that they pulled holy scripture to justify what they think about God, and I called them ignorant. Well, quite frankly marie is doing the same thing, as do MANY christians. And the type of God that would condone screaming to people about the fiery depths of hell to which they so deserve spending eternity.....is the same type of God that liljp is claiming is like charles manson.

Quoting scripture without spiritual understanding and using it to serve your own purpose has nothing to do with ignorance. So I'm sorry for saying that.


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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2010, 02:18:15 pm »

Yes.....and no.  People that have no idea what the Holy Ghost is can blaspheme on accident, and can be forgiven.  

If you read my post shernajwine, there was more there than the possessing the Holy Ghost, and then losing it, turning around and blaspheming (saying it's of the devil).  I mentioned also witnessing the healing, moving, transforming, etc. power of God.  Then turning around after witnessing and partaking of these wonderful "sitting" in heavenly places".  Then turning around and calling it the devils work.....is the unpardonable sin of Blasphemy.  

You mentioned "unforgiveness" as the unpardonable sin......not true.  Unforgiveness can be taken care of with repentance.  We are talking about something that you can never find forgiveness for.......ever.  There's a difference.

Shernajwine, I've said it before and I'll say it again.  You are a new Christian and need to talk to your Pastor before you post something that you don't understand.  It can be dangerous, and can upset people tremendously.


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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2010, 02:36:49 pm »
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You have to "have" the witness of the Holy Ghost in order to blaspheme it (if you turn from it). 
  The Scribes & Pharisees didn't "have" the witness of the Holy Ghost, yet when they started saying Jesus' was doing his works using satan's power the whole issue of "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and unpardonable sin" came up.  The scribes and Pharisees weren't "tongue speakers"...the Pharisees had a hard time accepting Jesus as the Messiah, why would they have spoken in tongues?  The first people to speak "in tongues" were the disciples on the Day of Pentecost, an event happened which happened way AFTER the mentioning of "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and the unpardonable sin" to the scribes & Pharisees, an event which happened AFTER the resurrection. 

Your right, but if you read my posts, that was only one instance.  I listed many. If you know that the power of God is real, be it tongues, healings, miracles, then turn around and say it's of the devil (after you have partaken of the gift or seen it's undeniable proof), then your swimming in the pool of blasphemy. 

Jesus was teaching his followers and those around him about how serious it was to call the works of God the works of the devil.  He also knew that the Holy Ghost would be poured out after he arose, and the Word of God is written for us in our time also.  If the Holy Ghost inhabits your temple, it's the same Holy Ghost that was Jesus before He was poured out in the form of His Spirit (the comforter).  The same yesterday, today, and forever.

We hear people take the name of God in vain all the time.  There are all types of blasphemy, but they can be repented of, and forgiven.  Any sin we do on earth, can be forgiven through repentance.  This particular sin of calling the works of God the works of the devil, when you KNOW better, and have EXPERIENCED it for yourself......then that's unpardonable.

Here's a good example:  Jesus healed me of my COPD about 4 years ago at a big conference.  I asked Him to and He did.  No one was laying hands on me or anything.  I felt the power of God go through my body.  I knew it was God.  If I turned away later, and told people that it was the work of the devil.....that's unpardonable!  (scares me even to write that...lol)

Good point though.......you made me think, and delve a bit further.

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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2010, 03:07:26 pm »
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2010, 03:09:34 pm »
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13

Amen!   A good one!!

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Re: Favorite Bible Quotes
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2010, 03:14:20 pm »
Someone out there thinks they have committed the unpardonable sin.....you haven't.  During prayer today, I felt to write this.  Hope it helps somebody.
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2010, 05:53:30 pm »
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Shernajwine, I've said it before and I'll say it again.  You are a new Christian and need to talk to your Pastor before you post something that you don't understand.  It can be dangerous, and can upset people tremendously.

My pastor is actually the one that taught me this. Unforgiveness is forgivable when you forgive. You can't ask God for forgiveness until you have forgiven others. God WILL NOT forgive you until you have yourself forgiven others, that's in the scriptures. Therefore, unforgiveness is unforgivable. No it's not a permanent condition. Now my pastor says it alot more eloquently than I do but that's the bare knuckles of it. I posted on another thread....I'm not a new christian.

Annella, I appreciate the wisdom you bring to the forum and I also appreciate the patience you have shown marie, where I have not....but I'm not so appreciative that you assume I'm "new" simply because I said something you disagree with. I'm not a theologian and there is certainly PLENTY that I don't know, but I'm off spiritual milk and have been for quite some time. I feel a little patronized here.... I said something you disagree with and you send me off to a higher authority (my pastor) with a pat on the head and an admonition to watch my mouth and do not speak of things to which I have no knowledge. It's not an insult to be a baby in the Lord but it's an insult when you assume I am just because you disagree with me.


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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2010, 07:05:13 pm »
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Shernajwine, I've said it before and I'll say it again.  You are a new Christian and need to talk to your Pastor before you post something that you don't understand.  It can be dangerous, and can upset people tremendously.

My pastor is actually the one that taught me this. Unforgiveness is forgivable when you forgive. You can't ask God for forgiveness until you have forgiven others. God WILL NOT forgive you until you have yourself forgiven others, that's in the scriptures. Therefore, unforgiveness is unforgivable. No it's not a permanent condition. Now my pastor says it alot more eloquently than I do but that's the bare knuckles of it. I posted on another thread....I'm not a new christian.

Annella, I appreciate the wisdom you bring to the forum and I also appreciate the patience you have shown marie, where I have not....but I'm not so appreciative that you assume I'm "new" simply because I said something you disagree with. I'm not a theologian and there is certainly PLENTY that I don't know, but I'm off spiritual milk and have been for quite some time. I feel a little patronized here.... I said something you disagree with and you send me off to a higher authority (my pastor) with a pat on the head and an admonition to watch my mouth and do not speak of things to which I have no knowledge. It's not an insult to be a baby in the Lord but it's an insult when you assume I am just because you disagree with me.

Sorry, but I had no intention of being patronizing.  I'm going back to the post you made last month about just starting a Oneness church.  You said that you had questions about the Oneness.  You also made mention that the atheistic view made sense to you, so you studied it out.  I took it that you were new, and not Spirit filled yet and still looking for answers?  If I'm wrong.....I apologize

Your more than welcome to disagree.  What I should have said was, study it out for yourself.  Take your Pastor's teaching, and your understanding, my teaching, and the Bible, and get your own answers.  You do study things out...which is good.  When you look into the subject of the unpardonable sin, you have to go to the Bible where Jesus is talking about it, and study it (Matthew 12 starting with the 22nd verse).  Your more than welcome to print out these posts and show them to your Pastor.

You are correct in a sense...unforgiveness is based on forgiving others as we want to be forgiven, but it's not the unpardonable sin of blasphemy which cannot be forgiven, in this life or the next.  Now we can all be lost for holding onto unforgiveness, pride, hatred, malice, etc.  However, those all have a chance of being repented of and being forgiven by God.  They are not the unpardonable (no forgiveness at all) sin of blasphemy.  Maybe what your Pastor taught is that the unforgiveness can lead to blasphemy.  There is blasphemy in the Bible that can be forgiven, but this unpardonable blasphemy is a sin unto itself.

I'm very careful of this because I've dealt with many people in counseling where the enemy has made them to believe they had committed this sin.  It wrecks them.  Then they're scared to tell anyone, because of being an outcast, etc. etc.  It can snowball into an irrational fear.  Sin is sin to God (lying, cheating, stealing, murder, etc.), but the Lord made sure he broke the unpardonable sin out, to let us know there is NO forgiveness for IT.

We just can't take a sin out and call it unpardonable.  Unforgiveness is no more the number 1 sin than say murder.  Sin is sin.  I think I know what you Pastor is getting at though.  Unforgiveness can lead to not being forgiven.  Undersood, and that is Bible.  However, it's not unpardonable, it can be reversed.  The unpardonable sin can NEVER be reversed.  There's a difference.



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