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marieelissa

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This test is designed to answer 2 questions:
Are you a good person according to God's standards?
And if so, are you good enough to go to heaven?

http://www.needgod.com/004.shtml

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 :wave:  I'm not perfect, but Jesus is my savior and I know I am going to heaven.  It's nice to see someone asking others the question.

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I don't believe anyone is these days. Just my opinion, maybe I'm a little bitter, but people suck, for the most part. Cruel, evil, twisted, corrupt, greedy people. Its a harsh world we live in.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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I don't think it's a matter of being "good enough to go to heaven..."
That's not quite how I'd choose to word it.
Not looking to get into a huge debate, just thought that was something to think about.

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One can only hope to get into heaven.

It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle...

You must strive on a daily basis in order to achieve that.

articx

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This test is designed to answer 2 questions:
Are you a good person according to God's standards?
And if so, are you good enough to go to heaven?

http://www.needgod.com/004.shtml
I am not familiar with how shtml works. There is probably nothing dynamic about it like html.

It doesn't matter how you answer those questions, you will still get the same static (not changing) messages of being guilty and will be sent to hell. This is not a real test.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 02:43:36 pm by articx »

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"Hell is understood to be the complete and eternal separation of sinners. God is the source of all life No Life can exist apart from God Being completely and totally separated from God means to have no access to the source of all life. Therefore the damned ceased to exist or they are not completely separated from God.

If they are not completely separated from God because God sustains their lives then God is responsible for their eternal torment. If God is responsible for their eternal torment why is God worthy of our worship for he is plainly not good. If we are to worship God for God's power rather than God's goodness, then we worship a sadistic God. "

Though the basis of this argument ultimately stems from fiction, I consider it to be a good argument against the garbage that Marie posted. And, strangely enough, this comes from Evangelical reasoning. Weird.
http://progressiveevangelical.blogspot.com/2004/12/logical-proof-that-eternal-torment.html

mattymatt79

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It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle...
   That verse as found in Matt 19:24 (KJV) actually says: "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God".   

KJV doesn't count, it's missing books like Macabees and more.

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This test is designed to answer 2 questions:
Are you a good person according to God's standards?
And if so, are you good enough to go to heaven?

http://www.needgod.com/004.shtml
I would like to know who issued this test. Was it God? Maybe some fundamentalist with nothing else to do but strike fear into others?  We are spiritual beings having a human experience. The physical body dies,but the spiritual energy is eternal. Love conquers all.

teflonfanatic

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John the baptist did not go to heaven, Marie was John the baptist a good man?

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It's only because of what Jesus did on the cross that we can have a relationship with Him.

mattymatt79

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John the baptist did not go to heaven

What makes you say that? What makes you to know the placement of souls. This statement makes zero sense and is against the teaching of most christian denominations that acknowledge the communion of saints.

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Let me get this straight.  This is a test created by humans to know if you are acceptable to God?  Because these humans who created this test surely know and understand everything about God, well enough to know whether or not a person is acceptable to God.  And obviously, these humans then also know whether or not you're good enough to go to heaven.   ::)

Absolutely ridiculous.  We are all should be unacceptable in the eyes of God due to sin, no matter how large or small.  However, more importantly, we are all equally acceptable and loved in the eyes of God due to God's grace.  Regardless of what we do, good or bad, God loves us and cares for us.  So the question isn't whether or not you are good enough for God, or whether you're good enough to get into heaven, because those things don't really matter in the eyes of God.  You are human; therefore you are a child of God and loved by God.  Doubtless, one should live one's life in response to that love, and so one should desire to be "good" because of that.  But the love comes before that - you need not do anything to get God to accept you, because that's already the case.

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 The KJV is the main version I use.  Yes, it is absolutely counted.  The Apocrypha isn't included in the KJV for various reasons.  One reason is that none of the writers lay claim to the inspiration of God. KJV's books are all inspired by God.  Another reason is that the Apocrypha's books were not written in the Hebrew language, which is what the inspired writers and poets only used in the Old Testament.  These other books also weren't acknowledged as sacred by the Jews.  There are other reasons why they aren't accepted in the KJV. 

I do use the Living Bible and the NIV for study references and to help clarify things in question.

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm

http://www.thebaptist.org/whyapocrypha.htm





jcribb16

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John the baptist did not go to heaven

What makes you say that? What makes you to know the placement of souls. This statement makes zero sense and is against the teaching of most christian denominations that acknowledge the communion of saints.

I agree with mattymatt here.  John the Baptist laid the foundation for the coming of Jesus in the New Testament.  How in the world did he not go to Heaven after all he did for Jesus?  That man was a "Christian" - he lived his whole life for Jesus.

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