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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 07:08:22 pm »
~Chase....


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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2010, 07:09:46 pm »
well i wasn't trying to offend you marie but i won't apologize for what the bible says  :-


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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2010, 07:19:13 pm »


That was cool, thanks Chase!  :thumbsup:


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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2010, 07:20:02 pm »
well i wasn't trying to offend you marie but i won't apologize for what the bible says  :-

I will say it again, the bible is  :bs: and that is why.

You are entitled to your opinion marie.


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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2010, 07:21:37 pm »


That was cool, thanks Chase!  :thumbsup:
No prob, thought you guys might like it.
~Chase....

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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 12:11:07 am »
Those come from the Old Testament under the old law.  After Jesus came, died, and was resurrected, the New Testament became the guidance.  You should also study the New Testament in comparison.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." - Jesus himself in matthew 5:17
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 05:09:33 am »
-Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12
-"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13
-A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27
-If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10
-They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13
-But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21
-The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever.  It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.  Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy.  Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.  Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'  (Exodus 31:12-15
-Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood.  (Jeremiah 48:10
-All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9

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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 08:19:42 am »
Those come from the Old Testament under the old law.  After Jesus came, died, and was resurrected, the New Testament became the guidance.  You should also study the New Testament in comparison.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." - Jesus himself in matthew 5:17
Jesus was speaking of fulfilling that which was shadowed by the figure of the Law, by delivering men through grace from the curse of the Law, and to teach the true use of obedience which the Law appointed. He wants us to engrave, so to speak, the force of obedience in our hearts and actions.  In that, the prophecies from the Old Testament would be accomplished. In Matthew 5, Jesus is actually giving the true meaning and use of the Law.

If you would also read 1 John, which is after 2 Peter, it goes into much of the new commandment that Jesus gives us and why.

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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 08:25:51 am »
I don't think this is a search for answers but a reason to argue God's Word. When you are truly interested in answers, you won't be posting your questions on a random forum; but will be doing your own research into educated and qualified bible scholars materials.
It is a search for answers, i'm not blatenly trying to argue the men-who-wrote-the-bible's word and this isn't a random forum. it's the only one i use because i like the intelligent people here. the rest of the forums are people talking *bleep* back and forth with 'yo mama' jokes and the like, not holding a real debate. Ive done a LOT of research, by the way.

Thats why I posted what I did. I actually like hearing what a few have to say on here, because of there knowledge on certain subjects.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 04:51:43 pm »
Stick to your guns, 502 -- god ordering people to commit horrific genocide and mass murdering a sh*tton of people himself IS NOT OKAY.  Never was, never will be.

God's murders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKWIMYK_x0
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 07:17:33 pm »
Stick to your guns, 502 -- god ordering people to commit horrific genocide and mass murdering a sh*tton of people himself IS NOT OKAY.  Never was, never will be.

God's murders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKWIMYK_x0

If you really believe that critically reading the bible is enough to make a person not believe in God, then I'm surprised to see you so aggressively interjecting here. I would think you would be encouraging him to read it and wouldn't feel the need to "interpret" it for him.

But God has a plan and purpose for Chase and I'm confidant that he will find the path God has for him, regardless of you interjections.  :)


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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 07:42:55 pm »
Stick to your guns, 502 -- god ordering people to commit horrific genocide and mass murdering a sh*tton of people himself IS NOT OKAY.  Never was, never will be.

God's murders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKWIMYK_x0

If you really believe that critically reading the bible is enough to make a person not believe in God, then I'm surprised to see you so aggressively interjecting here. I would think you would be encouraging him to read it and wouldn't feel the need to "interpret" it for him.

But God has a plan and purpose for Chase and I'm confidant that he will find the path God has for him, regardless of you interjections.  :)

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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 09:08:03 pm »
Stick to your guns, 502 -- god ordering people to commit horrific genocide and mass murdering a sh*tton of people himself IS NOT OKAY.  Never was, never will be.

God's murders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKWIMYK_x0
If you really believe that critically reading the bible is enough to make a person not believe in God, then I'm surprised to see you so aggressively interjecting here. I would think you would be encouraging him to read it and wouldn't feel the need to "interpret" it for him.

But God has a plan and purpose for Chase and I'm confidant that he will find the path God has for him, regardless of you interjections.  :)
Yeah like God has plans for everyone else, even burning in hell.

Marie, do you remember how upset and offended you would get when someone would say something to you about religion?  Think about how much it bothered you when someone put you down or make a snarky comment about what you believed...and then remember that when replying to someone else about what they believe.   :wave:



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Re: Killing in the name of......
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 09:32:40 pm »
marie's statment rises questions to me. if god has a purpose for everyone, why does hell exist? and if he knows the future, why even allow the person that will do wrong in the world exist?
~Chase....

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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2010, 09:50:01 pm »
Stick to your guns, 502 -- god ordering people to commit horrific genocide and mass murdering a sh*tton of people himself IS NOT OKAY.  Never was, never will be.

God's murders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTKWIMYK_x0
Whoa a minute.....  chill out.........  why in the world would it matter to you so much?  Especially enough to YELL on here. Good grief - let him make up his own mind.  You're letting it get to you way too much....

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