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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2010, 08:06:00 am »
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No, most of you don't actually believe in it...you just HOPE for it.  If you really believed in it, you would not exercise regularly, watch your weight, take vitamins, seek medical attention ASAP during an emergency, get insurance policies, grieve over dead loved ones, do ANYTHING to prolong this crappy human life...

The Muslims of 9/11?  They BELIEVED.

So just because someone believes everything Jesus ever said including the talk of eternal life...they are just supposed to automatically start to purposely "deteriorate & vegitate" so they can get there quicker?  The Bible has verses on how gluttony is a sin, how our bodies are the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit and is to be kept holy (1 Cor 3 & 6), and multiple verses warning of being foolish.  Believers "take care of their health" because they need to be healthy to do what God put them on earth to do.  They seek medical attention because to not to would be like committing suicide...something that truly wrecks a Christians testimony considering the Bible verse "I can do all things through Christ".  My dead loved ones---I'm very sad that they are "gone" because I miss them but the ones that were saved and their lives showed it, I don't "grieve" over them because I know they're in Heaven and I'll see them again in time.  It's the dead unsaved loved ones that cause me the most grief...but I know in time, that too will end.   The Muslims of 9/11, yes they believed in their cause enough to die for it---but it was still "suicide".  A "suicide mission", a "suicide bomber", even the Jim Jones followers died in a tragic "mass suicide".  They were following a false teaching...if they had put their faith & trust in God and heeded the words about "being foolish" they wouldn't of had to die a death by suicide!  There's a book "Foxes Book of Martyrs" that gives a historical and pretty graphic description of how the 12 Apostles died as well as many other Christians.  That book leaves no doubt that they BELIEVED, that they had belief in something greater than ANYTHING on this earth that could happen to them.  They didn't commit "suicide" (except for Judas, the betrayer) they were murdered & tortured in gruesome ways for taking a stand in what they believed, for trying to "share" Jesus with others....simply for being a Christian.  How many Muslims, how many Jim Jones followers have been tortured to death or killed in torturous ways simply because someone didn't like what they were saying?   
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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2010, 10:50:41 am »
Some people really have nice lives and don't mind living. Heaven can wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh huh.  Sure.  That's like saying would you rather have $100 or 1 million dollars.  $100 is nice, but it's NOTHING compared to 1 million dollars.  Y'all keep telling me how you just know heaven is going to be your own personal Disneyland, when the truth is, you're scared to die.  Excuses, excuses.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2010, 11:02:39 am »
So just because someone believes everything Jesus ever said including the talk of eternal life...they are just supposed to automatically start to purposely "deteriorate & vegitate" so they can get there quicker?

I'm saying Christians should WANT to get to heaven as fast as possible, but instead they treat death like the end as well.  Exercising everyday is artificially prolonging your life, and I thought god could kill you at any time, so the excuse that you're "helping him out" by keeping yourself healthy doesn't fly.   Sure you can try to make excuses about doing god's will, but that is really just a cover for being scared to die.  God doesn't need you to live until 80 to serve a purpose.  Most people, in fact, WON'T make a significant difference to humanity and will be quickly forgotten about when dead.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2010, 11:05:03 am »
Quote from Falconer:
"So yeah, I admit I was kinda trolling the thread originally just to joke around. Why? The OP was pretty corny".

Quote from Sheryl:
 Later I realized that because this is a forum that it's harder to join in a "written conversation"  than it is to "pop in" a conversation in real life so actually, I think you did quite well with what you posted.    I do think there would be more of a "melting pot" of beliefs on here if people weren't "blasted" everytime they try to post something.  I've seen quite a bit of that---mainly newbies getting very rude remarks from other members when they post a belief of theirs (I don't recall where the "blasting" came from so don't think I am accusing anyone here).  Then they just quit posting in D&D altogether.  I agree it would be great to have many more others in D&D, I'm just not sure how to help that happen....

 :cat:
Honestly, I feel that's why D&D has been so quiet lately.  People got really tired of trying to discuss how they felt or what they believed, only to be made to look like bumbling idiots.  It's not fun to discuss and debate when you can't present your side without being cut-off constantly.  If views could be discussed back and forth without the name-calling and intimidations I think posters would come back on more.  Yes, it gets sparked, and that's normal. But there is a difference between sparked (disagreeing, but making points for either side), and intimidation (name-calling, total unacceptance of other people's views just because they don't believe the same, and rudeness, especially toward newbies and even seasoned posters.)  I could see that possibly in a "Belligerence Thread for Those Who Dare to Enter," but not just a debate and discuss thread where everyone's views are presented and debated.

Sheryl, I enjoy being a "furnace buddy," but I feel I haven't posted enough lately.  I do like the way you put that!!!  :)

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2010, 11:27:53 am »
So just because someone believes everything Jesus ever said including the talk of eternal life...they are just supposed to automatically start to purposely "deteriorate & vegitate" so they can get there quicker?

I'm saying Christians should WANT to get to heaven as fast as possible, but instead they treat death like the end as well.  Exercising everyday is artificially prolonging your life, and I thought god could kill you at any time, so the excuse that you're "helping him out" by keeping yourself healthy doesn't fly.   Sure you can try to make excuses about doing god's will, but that is really just a cover for being scared to die.  God doesn't need you to live until 80 to serve a purpose.  Most people, in fact, WON'T make a significant difference to humanity and will be quickly forgotten about when dead.

Christians do look forward to spending eternity with God, but it doesn't mean we don't want to live on earth for whatever lifespan we have. There's wonderful things to enjoy here on earth (family, friends, get-togethers, chuch, movies, shopping, trips, etc.) and in the meantime we fellowship with other believers, as well as nonbelievers, etc., and offer to share our Lord with others, in the hopes that they, too, will spend eternity with God. Yet, I realize there are others who are unhappy or hurting and don't wish to remain here for the rest of their lives. That is one of the harsh realities of life that is hard to deal with, not to mention extremely sad.

As for being afraid to die, that's an unknown for everyone.  Some people don't care either way about death.  Others are afraid of the pain of diseases, sickness, etc, and others are just plain scared to be alone when they are dying. But, there is a major difference between believers and nonbelievers, and that is no matter what we feel when we die, we WILL spend eternity with Him in Heaven.  Fear is a human emotion that is normal.

One other thing I disagree with you on, is that God has a purpose for anyone, whether or not they believe, and whatever age they may be, from the loss of a baby, a newborn, all the way through our elderly years for those who are able to live that long.  I know several sr. citizens who have led people to the Lord, brought together family members who were estranged, made a little child happy, shared tears with another sr. citizen friend, etc.  There is no limit as to what God can do.

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2010, 12:33:56 pm »
  Some great points there jcribb and marieelissa had some also.  About qon's last post, the post I did in Marieelissa's thread about the "chocolate mansion & flying cars" was something I posted "in fun".   Fun & fellowship with others is a big part of what it means to be a Christian.  Noooo, I don't really think there will be chocolate, mansions or flying cars in Heaven.   I think people will have jobs/responsibilites in Heaven.  I think people are placed on earth to go through constant tests because it's how God makes one what He needs them to be someday in Heaven.  I also think Christians will be having alot of fun & fellowship time considering how much Jesus loved both.  No two people are alike, everyone so many different things going with them that makes them "unique".  Different races, different customs, different religions, different languages.  It's just my opinion but I think what most Christians SHOULD "focus" on is getting the word out about God's plan for salvation.  Heaven can wait if it means I'll have more time to take more loved ones.  Everything else is debatable--- seeing loved ones accept Christ is what matters most on earth.   Just my opinions here---no one person has all the answers.  Preachers from the same denomination can preach on the same passage but have two different sermons depending on what the Holy Spirit determines the congregation needs to hear.  It's so hard to put in a forum what it takes a person several years to learn.  (It doesn't help when a person tries to do some research and there are sites that say they are "Christian" but their teachings are so misleading that unless one really knows the Bible, they are going to become very confused.)  According to the Bible, God knows how to convince the "doubting Thomas"  Saul/Paul (persecutor of Christians until God changed him).  My prayer is that God keeps reaching those who doubt, and those who persecute.  Noone is so lost that He can't find them.  (As for the condition of the forum...I believe God can Bless even this mess.   ;D )
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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2010, 07:08:53 pm »
Not bad at all!!

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2010, 12:39:24 pm »
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.


 Thats cute Im gonna send it to my Nana she would love it
and people  dont be mean she was just sharing it - she didnt push it on you. Jeepers

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2010, 02:03:53 pm »
Quote from Sheryl:
 Later I realized that because this is a forum that it's harder to join in a "written conversation"  than it is to "pop in" a conversation in real life so actually, I think you did quite well with what you posted.    I do think there would be more of a "melting pot" of beliefs on here if people weren't "blasted" everytime they try to post something.  I've seen quite a bit of that---mainly newbies getting very rude remarks from other members when they post a belief of theirs (I don't recall where the "blasting" came from so don't think I am accusing anyone here).  Then they just quit posting in D&D altogether.  I agree it would be great to have many more others in D&D, I'm just not sure how to help that happen....

 :cat:
Honestly, I feel that's why D&D has been so quiet lately.  People got really tired of trying to discuss how they felt or what they believed, only to be made to look like bumbling idiots.  It's not fun to discuss and debate when you can't present your side without being cut-off constantly.  If views could be discussed back and forth without the name-calling and intimidations I think posters would come back on more.  Yes, it gets sparked, and that's normal. But there is a difference between sparked (disagreeing, but making points for either side), and intimidation (name-calling, total unacceptance of other people's views just because they don't believe the same, and rudeness, especially toward newbies and even seasoned posters.)  I could see that possibly in a "Belligerence Thread for Those Who Dare to Enter," but not just a debate and discuss thread where everyone's views are presented and debated.

Sheryl, I enjoy being a "furnace buddy," but I feel I haven't posted enough lately.  I do like the way you put that!!!  :)

I haven't been posting as much lately because it seems that there isn't much to discuss, quite honestly.  Its all either religion or Off Topic in here lately, and the only replies have been replies to the original post without much time given to the discussion itself.  Its starting to feel like a waste of time in here anymore, when I used to be eager to come and join in a conversation, excited about what replies mine would get, and to be able to actually take the time to formulate a well thought out reply.  I don't feel the need to do that anymore, though, when I'm not getting that type of response.  Its very disheartening.

And...I miss Annella.   :crybaby2:



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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2010, 07:22:19 pm »
 :cat:  I, too, miss Annella.  I also miss you (Amy), Sheryl, and Mackenzie!  I'm glad Marie and Sheryl have been in here!

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2010, 08:09:18 pm »
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And that is the difference between an atheist (me) and an agnostic (Falconer).  I don't leave room for unprovable possibilities that sound like pure fantasy (no offense, Falc).  I go with the facts: all evidence points to the very big fact that I was dead for billions of years before I was born.  Why?  I didn't have a brain that made me conscious.  When I die, my brain will stop working and decompose.  Thus, I will have nothing to be conscious with. 

None taken! That's literally the only difference within the two beliefs and I find it completely acceptable.

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Re: Emergency Numbers
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2010, 04:51:22 am »
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.

God Bless you  .... I enjoyed this.  God is always there and always hears our prayers.  The Bible was given to us for direction and comfort.

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