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502mania

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So your telling me... that anyone who does not accept christ will be doomed to eternal suffering???
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so what if...... i cured cancer. ended world hunger and made sure every child in the world got and education?... but heres the catch. i was an outspoken athiest who mocked religion and denied it completely. would your god send me to suffer for eternity, despite the fact of all the good i had done?
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So your telling me... that anyone who does not accept christ will be doomed to eternal suffering???
ok.
so what if...... i cured cancer. ended world hunger and made sure every child in the world got and education?... but heres the catch. i was an outspoken athiest who mocked religion and denied it completely. would your god send me to suffer for eternity, despite the fact of all the good i had done?
Good point, but you can't go somewhere that does't exist........

By the way, I hope you cure cancer!!
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 :sad1: This is my understanding of what God wants from you. He wants you to acknowledge that HE is the ONE and ONLY true GOD. You accept Christ as the son of God and Christ interceeds on your behalf before God. That is why you pray to God through Jesus Christ. It states in the Bible that NO MAN SHALL ENTER HEAVEN BY GOOD WORKS ALONE. But to each their own. You have a choice to believe anyway you may want. HAVE A BLESSED DAY!!!

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honestly i believe christianity was a way man evented to control ones thoughts and acts,    think about it they preach god is love the purest love so pure we are to imitate it, so then why would he condemn us his children to hell, i mean we are sinners but still would never condemn our children to hell would we,

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So your telling me... that anyone who does not accept christ will be doomed to eternal suffering???
ok.
so what if...... i cured cancer. ended world hunger and made sure every child in the world got and education?... but heres the catch. i was an outspoken athiest who mocked religion and denied it completely. would your god send me to suffer for eternity, despite the fact of all the good i had done?

Good works won't get you there... and denial of GOD who sent HIS only SON to die for your sin issues a curse. you can take it from there.

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Yes, 502mania, you will be sent to the eternal place of punishment, unless you acknowledge Him as Lord.  Good works do not get you a spot in Heaven.  Perhaps, if you acknowledge Him, then you can thank Him for helping you to find that cure for cancer.

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So your telling me... that anyone who does not accept christ will be doomed to eternal suffering???
ok.
so what if...... i cured cancer. ended world hunger and made sure every child in the world got and education?... but heres the catch. i was an outspoken athiest who mocked religion and denied it completely. would your god send me to suffer for eternity, despite the fact of all the good i had done?
Good point, but you can't go somewhere that does't exist........

By the way, I hope you cure cancer!!

exactly. I hope you cure cancer too!

They're going to tell you that your ignorant for mocking god, when in reality its more ignorant to believe in something so completely that has yet to be proven. I've also wondered about the good hearted, amazing, wonderful people who do all kinds of good deeds but has never even heard of god or jesus. Makes me sick to think that they supposedly go to hell but all these rapists and murderers that go to prison and supposedly find god and get saved go to heaven. I mean, no one would want to go to a place like that. Think about it though, the devil was in heaven, so why wouldnt other kinds of "evil" be there too? if its real and all.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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This video is, granted, a bit extreme and offensive, but it raises a good point: Accountability is a good thing.  There are far too few people who take responsibility for their own actions in this world, and can you think of any reasons why?  If nothing I do will ever be good enough, why should I waste my time being good? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWAUhadJzTk&feature=related



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Lucifer (the devil) was demoted out of Heaven. 

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Lucifer (the devil) was demoted out of Heaven. 

Yep, along with his co-hort angels he convinced to rebel against God also.  Sin can never enter there.  Only the redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb.

No, works alone will not get you into heaven, but "Faith without works is dead".  Anybody can say they believe the sun will come up tomorrow, and it will rain at it's appointed time, but saying so and believing is just faith...no works.  However, if you plant the seed, it is works from that faith of the sun, and rain, to grow a harvest, to produce a reward from that initial Faith in the first place.

I can say I believe in God, many do. The Bible says the devil believes the Word of God and trembles in fear. Believing is one thing, but taking it to "works" from that belief, is something else entirely.

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The reason so many Christians think only those who accept Christ will go to Biblical Heaven is because that is what the Bible clearly states.  Satan is known as the great deceiver, and he doesn't need anyone's permission to deceive them.  I think Satan will have MANY believing that as long as they are "just good people, living a good life" that they will go to Heaven---and he will be laughing at them later because they bought that lie.  The Bible clearly states only those that accept Jesus into their hearts and have their sins forgiven will be saved.  (The longer one is saved, the more that God will expect from them because Christianity is more than "lip-service".)  For God to let anyone else into Heaven for any other reason would be to make Jesus a liar...and that isn't going to happen.  Choose whom you're going to serve wisely...you WILL be spending eternity with them. 

Well put, SherylsShado!!!

502mania

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so my eternal punishment or reward is determined by what i believe rather than my actions? so an athiest who saves every child from poverty goes to hell, to be tormented forever, while the child molester who "repented to christ" gets eternal paradise? seriously??? ???   ??? ... what about the native americans - they were good people and they wanted to share this land but instead they were cheated and killed off. did they go to hell?
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it sounds like  me this od you talkingabout has some serious troubles and may need to go to theapy to resolve it.....im leaning to anger management problems....

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First off my God is your God even if you don't believe in Him.  Second, the answer to your question is no.  If this person never heard about Jesus Christ and lived his life as best he could always obeying his conscious and never knowingly or willingly commited and act that was opposed to his conscious, then he would not go to hell.  However, if he new about Jesus Christ and consciously and willing rejected Him and His teachings, and never repented and then died, then yes he would go to hell.  Jesus is the only one that gives eternal life.  There is no other "normal" way to enter eternal life but by the way of Jesus. 

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Let me elaborate on my previous post:

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

Paragraph 1257: ...The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation (jn 3:5).  He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them (Mt 28: 19-20).  Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament (MK 16:16).  The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can e baptized are 'reborn of water and the Spirit."  God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.

Paragraph 1258: The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ.  This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament.

Paragraph 1259: For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament.

Paragraph 1260: "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved.  It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicityly if they had known its necessity.

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