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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2009, 10:24:44 am »
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I believe everyone has a right to his or her own opinon but should be willing to listen to what others say as well. Not everyone believes the same as me and I am more than happy to listen to what you say about your "god".

Holy *bleep*! An open-minded christian!? HOW CAN THIS BE!?!? Seriously, good for you.

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Christmas celebrates the birth of My Lord and Savior

Actually if you're curious, Christmas has a super-pagan background that's anything but that. Most holidays do too. Look it up! Pretty funny stuff.

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2009, 10:36:08 am »
Holy *bleep*! An open-minded christian!? HOW CAN THIS BE!?!? Seriously, good for you.

We are out there, ya know! I agree with Lynnette19. Most Christians (and this is solely my opinion from observation) are simply drones. They go to church, they get "fed" by the preacher, and the mindlessly believe everything that comes out of that preachers mouth... They never sit back and realize that the preacher is human too. Prone to the same sins and the same foul-ups as everyone else. They soak in what that preachers says and mindlessly believe it and repeat it...never thinking for themselves, never learning for themselves.

Most never actually go to the Bible and read and let the Lord lead them in their own studies... and least it is this way with most Southern Baptist churches I have been too. Don't get me wrong...there are very good churches out there but they tend to be far and inbetween. Christians need to learn for themselves, form their own opinions, and not just mindlessly believe and repeat what has been fed to them for so many years.

Now before you call me an Atheist...you simple minded Christians reading this...I am a Christian, I go to church, and I have a personal relationship with my God. I'm just not closed minded and am an independent thinker.
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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2009, 11:07:23 am »
I don't think there is anything wrong with believing in God, It's like believing you will hit the lottery one day...You're never really sure but you keep believing.

I don't understand how people can be so sure that God doesn't exist. Just the fact that humans are unable to do so many things and only capable of so much so tell you something.

I don't think it is impossible for God to exist but I just don't know how likely it is that he does.

It would be nice if God exists. And those that wouldn't want a God to exist are most likely bad people that would of went to hell anyways

God Bless

I see your way of thinking. It's true that it is entirely possible that God does or doesn't exist. If you look at the evidence in a logical way there is no REAL proof for either side of that argument. It's what you believe and what your heart tells you.  ;)
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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2009, 12:26:41 pm »
i never judge!

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2009, 01:24:43 pm »
I have to think hard, but I really think it would be a lie if I said I didn't judge. I have a difficult time with those who repeatedly knock on my door wanting to share the good news... I don't dislike them for their zeal, just for not taking "no, thank you" for an answer.

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2009, 02:19:41 pm »
Interesting question; I took my first religion class this semester and it has definitely opened my eyes to the MANY (and i mean many!) different religions out there. I surely don't look down at them. I have my beliefs, but I don't inflict them on anyone else.

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2009, 10:28:49 pm »
  I am a Freethinker, or Atheist if you like that term better. I live in the south and there is very little tolerance here for anyone who isn't Christian. I try to stress to my son that not all religious people are like that.
  
For example, we have a neighbor who is Christian and is one of the few who knows we aren't. My son plays with her stepson and they had asked him to church a few times. Nate didn't want to tell them why he doesn't go and actually asked me if he could lie and say he believed in god. This was because he has lost friends in the past who won't let their kids play with a "Heathen"
 
 To my surprise, they were fine with the fact that we weren't believers. She has never tried to push their religion on me or Nate. She has asked a few questions about what we do believe, which is fine. We have become good friends with their family.
  
In contrast, Nate has a hard time with his grandfather (step actually) who often hounds him over it. He tries to get him to go to church and lie to me about it. He slipped religious tracts in his Halloween candy, things like that. He has a Grandmother who is the same way.
  
They have done more to convince him Not to be a Christian than the Science I've taught him ever could.
 
 The bottom line is, if you don't push your religion on me, I have no problem with you. If you don't push to have your religion included in Public Policy and government, I have no problem with you. I don't really care what you believe.
 
  I'll admit, though that I feel sorry for religious people, especially kids. They deny themselves things that would add to their happiness. They worry over things that don't exist. Their kids rarely get a chance to see another point of view because they are taught to fear, and not to question.

  What is the most upsetting though is the multitude of religious people who think they have to have one mind. That they have to be Republican, Pro -Life, Pro -War, Anti Gay, Pro Gun, Pro Death Penalty , love Glenn Beck and Fox News.etc. If someone starts telling me how much they love Jesus, I infer these things about them. So, Yeah, I guess I judge too.

LOL My longest post ever I think.
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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2009, 12:29:38 am »
How come when it is a muslim or jehovah's witness etc speaking to someone else about their beliefs --it's okay. But when a Christian  shares his/her belief with someone it's called "pushing their beliefs on others and judging". And also standing up for your Christian beliefs makes you a "religious fanatic", but when the nation of islam takes a teacher over the coals for using mohammed as a class pet name--it's defending their rights? There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is. I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2009, 04:53:13 am »
How come when it is a muslim or jehovah's witness etc speaking to someone else about their beliefs --it's okay. But when a Christian  shares his/her belief with someone it's called "pushing their beliefs on others and judging". And also standing up for your Christian beliefs makes you a "religious fanatic", but when the nation of islam takes a teacher over the coals for using mohammed as a class pet name--it's defending their rights? There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is. I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

A
Dude....you can't see the trees for the forest, or perhaps more accurate, you're blinded by the light!!!

I have found many many untruths within Christianity.


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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2009, 10:57:30 am »
How come when it is a muslim or jehovah's witness etc speaking to someone else about their beliefs --it's okay.

It's not.

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But when a Christian  shares his/her belief with someone it's called "pushing their beliefs on others and judging".

It is always a pushing of beliefs when someone won't shut up about any religion.  Christianity simply happens to be the most practiced religion in the world, and thus, happens to be the most prevalent.  It is ALWAYS in the faces of EVERYONE, where as something like Jehovah's Witness are somewhat more rare in comparison.  It has nothing to do with some prejudice against Christianity; Christianity just happens to statistically be the one that talks the most, so it gets the most backlash.

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And also standing up for your Christian beliefs makes you a "religious fanatic",

It doesn't.  Being a religious fanatic makes you a religious fanatic.

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but when the nation of islam takes a teacher over the coals for using mohammed as a class pet name--it's defending their rights?

It's not "defending rights."  Anybody who seriously attempts to defend the acts and behaviors of radical Muslims who throw death threats around like it's nothing isn't worth listening to for more than 3 seconds.  Anyone who seriously argues that freedoms and rights should be negated so as to keep from offending a religion can kindly go jump off a cliff. 

The simple truth: If the people you're talking to are defending stances like those just outlined, you're talking to a lot of dumb people who should probably keep quiet more often.

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There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is.

Be quiet  ::)

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I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

No   ::)

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2009, 11:01:18 am »
How come when it is a muslim or jehovah's witness etc speaking to someone else about their beliefs --it's okay.

It's not.

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But when a Christian  shares his/her belief with someone it's called "pushing their beliefs on others and judging".

It is always a pushing of beliefs when someone won't shut up about any religion.  Christianity simply happens to be the most practiced religion in the world, and thus, happens to be the most prevalent.  It is ALWAYS in the faces of EVERYONE, where as something like Jehovah's Witness are somewhat more rare in comparison.  It has nothing to do with some prejudice against Christianity; Christianity just happens to statistically be the one that talks the most, so it gets the most backlash.

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And also standing up for your Christian beliefs makes you a "religious fanatic",

It doesn't.  Being a religious fanatic makes you a religious fanatic.

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but when the nation of islam takes a teacher over the coals for using mohammed as a class pet name--it's defending their rights?

It's not "defending rights."  Anybody who seriously attempts to defend the acts and behaviors of radical Muslims who throw death threats around like it's nothing isn't worth listening to for more than 3 seconds.  Anyone who seriously argues that freedoms and rights should be negated so as to keep from offending a religion can kindly go jump off a cliff. 

The simple truth: If the people you're talking to are defending stances like those just outlined, you're talking to a lot of dumb people who should probably keep quiet more often.

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There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is.

Be quiet  ::)

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I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

No   ::)
  :) I think I love you lol!

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2009, 11:43:37 am »
the bible says Judge not least you be judged.  I believe everyone has a right to his or her own opinon but should be willing to listen to what others say as well. Not everyone believes the same as me and I am more than happy to listen to what you say about your "god". Christmas celebrates the birth of My Lord and Savior. Thanksgiving is about giving thanks to God for your blessing  and trials that you recieved throughout the year
You are right about thanksgiving.

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2009, 02:29:29 pm »
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There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is. I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

You went there. And now I have to post it.



I'm sorry, but your statement is the furthest from the truth. What you have is a simple naive opinion, but you act like it's a universal fact. This is why religion suffers and is thus the reason why people judge it.

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Anybody who seriously attempts to defend the acts and behaviors of radical Muslims who throw death threats around like it's nothing isn't worth listening to for more than 3 seconds.

3 seconds is more than enough to cause massive headaches to any decent person who argues well. I'd just say laugh and walk away!

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2009, 03:33:47 pm »
How come when it is a muslim or jehovah's witness etc speaking to someone else about their beliefs --it's okay. But when a Christian  shares his/her belief with someone it's called "pushing their beliefs on others and judging". And also standing up for your Christian beliefs makes you a "religious fanatic", but when the nation of islam takes a teacher over the coals for using mohammed as a class pet name--it's defending their rights? There are just some things that are 100 percent truth and this is what Christianity is. I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. And this is their way of running.

A

In the words of Immortal Technique "Jesus is the most quoted profit in the Quran". Jehovah's witness also believe in Jesus, in fact they also are smart enough to not celebrate christmas on the 25th because nowhere in the bible (even christian) does it say so.  SO you really don't agree with them when you say "I believe it's because deep down the conscience of every individual knows that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.". Plenty of religions mirror this, even Mormons right? not sure about Catholics..  Also do you believe you would feel this way if in a remote village and never seen the bible? Would you just think "damn there must be this guy who was crucified a long time ago for me to be here! and his name was Jesus, gods son!"? I doubt it... You would probably twist the story slightly different, maybe even have different names. This actually occurred often before Christianity existed, other religions had the same beliefs about the son of god etc. but gave him another name depending on religion. The name Jesus was LEARNED from the bible, so not EVERY conscience individual could know that even if they wanted! Not everyone has the advantage of books even. But I guess going by Christianity standards, those people living ignorant in a small village somewhere, even if they are the most caring compassionate people, will go to hell for not accepting Jesus as their only true savior. xD Kinda sad. Also as for them speaking their beliefs and it being ok... not sure what planet your on, but last I checked Muslims are the most condemned of all religions ever since 9/11! A Muslim putting people on coals as punishment is defending their rights? What newspaper do you read? Id like to see it... last i saw the entire Muslim community was demonized because they were upset when Mohamed was used in a cartoon VERY inappropriately... they were demonized for condemning the cartoon, and called irrational terrorists who are extremists... I barely hear about christian extremist.. we just got one out of Office (Bush jr) even! xD That guy in the name of Christianity even banned stem cell research!! It was not condemned, and took time until Obama was in office to reverse the stupid thing... So I have no idea where you get the idea that 'you' are being picked on for your religion. Religious persecution is the oldest in the book, people have been condemned for ALL religions throughout all history! Even now Scientology is a huge target since its newer!

Also amazing you think the bible is 100% truth, when it even conflicts itself... but I guess we are talking magical mystical land where floods happen and 2 of every one of the billions of creatures on earth, can fit in a single arc :) Jesus turns water to wine, and an invisible man who hides in the sky stares at you while you *bleep* :) So I guess if all that's possible then two things that conflict can both be true as well... I think those who believe the bible is 100% truth, have a HUGE amount of confidence in the human race...and maybe a lack of knowledge of history... because the bible 50 years ago, even ten years ago, are completely revised. The languages were interpreted, tons of people contributed to the writings, publishing, changes etc. You must believe also that each of these human beings who are fallible, were 100% accurate (no mistakes) and 100% honest (no ego) when they did all their revisions, translations etc... and when they 'change' things, I guess they also got a message from god to do so? hehe... the bible is the greatest story ever told they say... and its been improved over decades to make that story greater! Yet its 100% truth? Not against people practicing religion on their own, but dont begin to think YOUR religion is the most persecuted. Also Judging is judging... if you judge someone, you judging them... if you do it based on opinion, based on religion or the bible, its still judging.. If you have a beef with people telling you that your are judging them, when you are judging them, maybe stop judging them! hehe. It has nothing to do with religion. People just bring it up, because its hypocritical for a christian to judge anyone, but most do exactly that on daily basis rather than looking inward. Maybe not you, but if your being told you are judging people and pushing your beliefs, I would suspect you are judging people... and even in this thread you are pushing your beliefs. When you say "I believe this, and you should believe what you want" you are not pushing the,... but when you say "I believe this, and I know this is 100% truth and all there is" or "every individual knows Jesus Christ" not only is it not true (he is learned by books and individuals) but its pushing your beliefs on others. You are saying "whatever you do is wrong, because I am 100% right". Which is pretty judgmental as well..

This is not opinion, I'm just going by dictionary terms. Judging, Jesus, etc. Do you celebrate Christmas on the 25th? if so, I'm curious... why?

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Re: Religions-Do you judge?
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2009, 04:01:20 pm »
No I don't judge anyone's religion

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