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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2019, 07:47:04 pm »
Well, that escalated quickly...lol

You all go ahead and argue religion if it helps you.

I'll just thank God for my bread pans and my blender, and keep feeding people.



I do resent your sort of caviler attitude about the situation. Wrong doctrine has ruined many a life. "Arguing religion" doesn't "Help me", but I'm hoping it'll help the poor folks enslaved to a falsehood of man made doctrine. It may be 'tough love', but when I see people being fooled by Satan's lies made manifest through a cult, I can't remain silent for long.   

JJ, you can resent all you like.  Arguing religion is a game that nobody wins.  Except maybe that Satan fella that both you and Hitch seem so preoccupied with. 

There is a better way. 

If you let a lie go by unchallenged for long enough, it eventually becomes somebody's truth.

Do you honestly believe that God needs you to stick up for him? 
All religions are man-made, even yours. 

Patriarchy.  Doctrine of Discovery.   Witches.   

“All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman… What else is woman but a foe to friendship, an unescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil nature, painted with fair colours… When a woman thinks alone, she thinks evil… Women are by nature instruments of Satan — they are by nature carnal, a structural defect rooted in the original creation.” – Malleus Maleficarum

Does that come from the mind of God, or is it obviously from the reprobate mind of man?

And yet, as obviously flawed as it is, it was accepted as a right doctrine. 

None of us has the whole truth. 



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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2019, 09:24:18 pm »
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!

You're giving grammatical advice is only slightly more funny than Charles Taze Russell thinking he had a clue about interpreting the bible.


BTW, neither the spellcheck nor online dictionary seems to have a problem with my spelling.


 noun: organisation
1.
an organized body of people with a particular purpose, especially a business, society, association, etc.
"a research organization"
synonyms:   company, firm, concern, operation, corporation, institution, group, establishment, consortium, conglomerate, combine, syndicate, body, agency, federation, confederation, alliance, coalition, association, movement, society, league, club, network, confederacy; More


Care to tell us why the term Jehovah Witness is NOT in the bible yet?
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 09:38:09 pm by JediJohnnie »

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2019, 09:32:35 pm »
Well, that escalated quickly...lol

You all go ahead and argue religion if it helps you.

I'll just thank God for my bread pans and my blender, and keep feeding people.



I do resent your sort of caviler attitude about the situation. Wrong doctrine has ruined many a life. "Arguing religion" doesn't "Help me", but I'm hoping it'll help the poor folks enslaved to a falsehood of man made doctrine. It may be 'tough love', but when I see people being fooled by Satan's lies made manifest through a cult, I can't remain silent for long.   

JJ, you can resent all you like.  Arguing religion is a game that nobody wins.  Except maybe that Satan fella that both you and Hitch seem so preoccupied with. 

There is a better way. 

If you let a lie go by unchallenged for long enough, it eventually becomes somebody's truth.

Do you honestly believe that God needs you to stick up for him? 
All religions are man-made, even yours. 

Patriarchy.  Doctrine of Discovery.   Witches.   

“All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman… What else is woman but a foe to friendship, an unescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil nature, painted with fair colours… When a woman thinks alone, she thinks evil… Women are by nature instruments of Satan — they are by nature carnal, a structural defect rooted in the original creation.” – Malleus Maleficarum

Does that come from the mind of God, or is it obviously from the reprobate mind of man?

And yet, as obviously flawed as it is, it was accepted as a right doctrine. 

None of us has the whole truth. 





Well, I guess it's a good thing you weren't one of the Apostles, if you think so little of defending God's Word.


Look, I get it. You're the philosophical type. One of those "how can we know that we know?'" types. The bible is reputable, passing every test. It's God's Word. It's the whole Truth.

Now, where I differ with hitch, is he's clearly gotten some tall tales from the Watchtower, but anyone with common sense can read the bible for all it's worth and see the internal consistency his cult lacks.

I appreciate the fact that you don't want to dicker with hitch, but it would help if you want to converse with me, by delineating just what your rather esoteric beliefs are and why you hold them.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 09:40:21 pm by JediJohnnie »

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2019, 10:27:44 pm »
Buy JJ a GI Joe doll instead Paints!!

Satan has JJ hooked so well even the worms are proclaiming & celebrating their independence.
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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #124 on: April 04, 2019, 09:41:35 am »
Buy JJ a GI Joe doll instead Paints!!

Satan has JJ hooked so well even the worms are proclaiming & celebrating their independence.
Quiet, Prince. The grown ups are talking.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #125 on: April 04, 2019, 09:57:11 am »
Buy JJ a GI Joe doll instead Paints!!

Satan has JJ hooked so well even the worms are proclaiming & celebrating their independence.
Quiet, Prince. The grown ups are talking.
Might not be a bad idea to be Prince <in your eyes>....he might be in heaven by your beliefs.Then again he might be in *ell <again by your beliefs>cos i think he was  a JW......

I wouldnt mind having his $$$$$ tho.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #126 on: April 07, 2019, 01:40:35 pm »
Well, that escalated quickly...lol

You all go ahead and argue religion if it helps you.

I'll just thank God for my bread pans and my blender, and keep feeding people.



I do resent your sort of caviler attitude about the situation. Wrong doctrine has ruined many a life. "Arguing religion" doesn't "Help me", but I'm hoping it'll help the poor folks enslaved to a falsehood of man made doctrine. It may be 'tough love', but when I see people being fooled by Satan's lies made manifest through a cult, I can't remain silent for long.   

JJ, you can resent all you like.  Arguing religion is a game that nobody wins.  Except maybe that Satan fella that both you and Hitch seem so preoccupied with. 

There is a better way. 

If you let a lie go by unchallenged for long enough, it eventually becomes somebody's truth.

Do you honestly believe that God needs you to stick up for him? 
All religions are man-made, even yours. 

Patriarchy.  Doctrine of Discovery.   Witches.   

“All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman… What else is woman but a foe to friendship, an unescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil nature, painted with fair colours… When a woman thinks alone, she thinks evil… Women are by nature instruments of Satan — they are by nature carnal, a structural defect rooted in the original creation.” – Malleus Maleficarum

Does that come from the mind of God, or is it obviously from the reprobate mind of man?

And yet, as obviously flawed as it is, it was accepted as a right doctrine. 

None of us has the whole truth.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #127 on: April 11, 2019, 01:53:33 pm »
While a "spirited" debate between Hitch and Johnnie can always make for interesting reading, I'm going to return to the OP. Even with something as mundane as bread pans, yes I believe God answers prayers. There is no such thing as a coincidence with God. I have a blog devoted to that idea called No Coincidences with God.


If you are at all interested in a read - google "No Coincidences with God" and "Lucas-web" -- and you can find it somewhere in the top results.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #128 on: April 11, 2019, 04:52:09 pm »
While a "spirited" debate between Hitch and Johnnie can always make for interesting reading, I'm going to return to the OP. Even with something as mundane as bread pans, yes I believe God answers prayers. There is no such thing as a coincidence with God. I have a blog devoted to that idea called No Coincidences with God.


If you are at all interested in a read - google "No Coincidences with God" and "Lucas-web" -- and you can find it somewhere in the top results.
Hello UGP...yes the bible says God answers prayers that are said in accordance to his will.It also says that the wicked that say prayers ,their prayer is detestable to him.

Time and unforseen occurrence befall us all.I guess that scripture could also mean a coinsidence may happen.

There is a saying many say 'everything happens for a reason".So are we to think God planned A&E to sin?Then why did he bother to warn them of consequence and they would die"Yes God <Jehovah>can foretell the future if he decides to.But he can also decide NOT to know it either.We have freedom of choice to decide it for ourselves.Yes whatever God purposes will happen.His name means "he causes to become".

His original purpose when creating man was for him to live forever under his rule.We know a monkey wrentch was throw into it by Satan and A&E.But immediately he told the serpent that seeed would bruise him in the head <death dealing blow>while he only bruised the seed <Jesus>in the heal.

In the case of the bread pan i am not sure Paints recognizes Jehovah as TRUE God.Now there may be many out there that out of ignorance wanna serve God and NOT know his name.I think in her case that isnt the case as in Jedi.He claims JWs tamper with bible.Well then i guess they tamper with KJV cos Psalms 83:18 clearly tells us who God is and that is one of the more distinguished bibles.

I dont try to convince the many here i know dont support JWs .I hope newbies and others will see the evidence presented by JW.org.

2 doctrines cant be right.Either trinity exists or not.Either hell exists or not.Either man has an immortal soul or not.JW.org presents using the bible the truth.Your heart discerns whether it is or not.

I think again in the case of the bread pan it was unforseen occurrence that some view as coinsidence,

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #129 on: April 11, 2019, 10:46:00 pm »
Well, that escalated quickly...lol

You all go ahead and argue religion if it helps you.

I'll just thank God for my bread pans and my blender, and keep feeding people.



I do resent your sort of caviler attitude about the situation. Wrong doctrine has ruined many a life. "Arguing religion" doesn't "Help me", but I'm hoping it'll help the poor folks enslaved to a falsehood of man made doctrine. It may be 'tough love', but when I see people being fooled by Satan's lies made manifest through a cult, I can't remain silent for long.   

JJ, you can resent all you like.  Arguing religion is a game that nobody wins.  Except maybe that Satan fella that both you and Hitch seem so preoccupied with. 

There is a better way. 

If you let a lie go by unchallenged for long enough, it eventually becomes somebody's truth.

Do you honestly believe that God needs you to stick up for him? 
All religions are man-made, even yours. 

Patriarchy.  Doctrine of Discovery.   Witches.   

“All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman… What else is woman but a foe to friendship, an unescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil nature, painted with fair colours… When a woman thinks alone, she thinks evil… Women are by nature instruments of Satan — they are by nature carnal, a structural defect rooted in the original creation.” – Malleus Maleficarum

Does that come from the mind of God, or is it obviously from the reprobate mind of man?

And yet, as obviously flawed as it is, it was accepted as a right doctrine. 

None of us has the whole truth. 





Well, I guess it's a good thing you weren't one of the Apostles, if you think so little of defending God's Word.


Look, I get it. You're the philosophical type. One of those "how can we know that we know?'" types. The bible is reputable, passing every test. It's God's Word. It's the whole Truth.

Now, where I differ with hitch, is he's clearly gotten some tall tales from the Watchtower, but anyone with common sense can read the bible for all it's worth and see the internal consistency his cult lacks.

I appreciate the fact that you don't want to dicker with hitch, but it would help if you want to converse with me, by delineating just what your rather esoteric beliefs are and why you hold them.

The apostles didn't defend the Word.  They knew him intimately, and told what they knew.

The bible is a book, written by men.  The Word of God is a living being. 
John 1 says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
With the Word, God created everything.  Do you think he was holding a bible?

What I believe is simple.  I believe that God is, and that he is accessible to any who seek him.  I believe that he is knowable, with or without the book. 

God cannot be contained in, nor constrained by, religion. 

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #130 on: April 17, 2019, 08:40:56 am »
While a "spirited" debate between Hitch and Johnnie can always make for interesting reading, I'm going to return to the OP. Even with something as mundane as bread pans, yes I believe God answers prayers. There is no such thing as a coincidence with God. I have a blog devoted to that idea called No Coincidences with God.


If you are at all interested in a read - google "No Coincidences with God" and "Lucas-web" -- and you can find it somewhere in the top results.

The way I see it, if God can't be trusted for the small things, (like bread pans :) ) why would anyone trust him with the big things?

Jesus didn't come to start a new religion.  He came to show us how to live. 


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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #131 on: April 17, 2019, 09:18:12 am »
I agree with JediJonne that the Lord works in mysterious ways.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #132 on: April 17, 2019, 09:53:15 pm »
While a "spirited" debate between Hitch and Johnnie can always make for interesting reading, I'm going to return to the OP. Even with something as mundane as bread pans, yes I believe God answers prayers. There is no such thing as a coincidence with God. I have a blog devoted to that idea called No Coincidences with God.


If you are at all interested in a read - google "No Coincidences with God" and "Lucas-web" -- and you can find it somewhere in the top results.

The way I see it, if God can't be trusted for the small things, (like bread pans :) ) why would anyone trust him with the big things?

Jesus didn't come to start a new religion.  He came to show us how to live. 


“For This I Have Come Into the World”
Note Jesus’ remarkable teaching ability as he courageously bears witness to the truth.

Based on Matthew 21:​23-46; 22:​15-46.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/dramatic-bible-readings/jesus-came-into-the-world/

They called Jesus "teacher"and "rabbi" fcr a reason.He always referred to his fathers teachings and scriptures being fufilled and lessons.

The bible is GODS word NOT mans!!All scripture inspired by God means just that.You think you are going to have over 40 writers of it and the book be in order just as the universe is.What does that mean?DIVINITY!!!
« Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 10:03:39 pm by hitch0403 »

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #133 on: April 18, 2019, 12:59:16 pm »
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!

You're giving grammatical advice is only slightly more funny than Charles Taze Russell thinking he had a clue about interpreting the bible.


BTW, neither the spellcheck nor online dictionary seems to have a problem with my spelling.


 noun: organisation
1.
an organized body of people with a particular purpose, especially a business, society, association, etc.
"a research organization"
synonyms:   company, firm, concern, operation, corporation, institution, group, establishment, consortium, conglomerate, combine, syndicate, body, agency, federation, confederation, alliance, coalition, association, movement, society, league, club, network, confederacy; More


Care to tell us why the term Jehovah Witness is NOT in the bible yet?

Both spellings are correct.

And to answer your last question - If it was not in the Bible when it was first written it can't be added. Well maybe to the modern day versions where everything is all changed but those are not the Inspired Word of God.

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Re: Coincidence or answered prayer?
« Reply #134 on: April 18, 2019, 04:42:47 pm »
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!
Very true,God doesnt have an organisation...LOL!!!Maybe u meant pencle...LOL

He has an organiZation!!!!

Remove the straw from your eye before U try to remove it from others.

BTW....im glad im NOT Prince either!

You're giving grammatical advice is only slightly more funny than Charles Taze Russell thinking he had a clue about interpreting the bible.


BTW, neither the spellcheck nor online dictionary seems to have a problem with my spelling.


 noun: organisation
1.
an organized body of people with a particular purpose, especially a business, society, association, etc.
"a research organization"
synonyms:   company, firm, concern, operation, corporation, institution, group, establishment, consortium, conglomerate, combine, syndicate, body, agency, federation, confederation, alliance, coalition, association, movement, society, league, club, network, confederacy; More


Care to tell us why the term Jehovah Witness is NOT in the bible yet?

Both spellings are correct.

And to answer your last question - If it was not in the Bible when it was first written it can't be added. Well maybe to the modern day versions where everything is all changed but those are not the Inspired Word of God.
I knew with all the chat between Paints,JJ and myself this topic was too juicy for you and eventually you would put your 2 cents in.

RE the grammatical stuff when others bring that up in a forum to try and get an edge it only shows a weakness on their part.I know when i copy and paste something from JW.org it is SPOT on.And even that doesnt soothe the foolish one.I will also admit i am lazy not obliging to the kings english and whats more important to me is conveying my message and i think i do it well.

As far as JWs and their name.......https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/name-jehovahs-witnesses/

I see Gods name is in KJV Psalms 83:18 and those that seem to worry about the organizations name in the bible dont even acknowledge that.

JWs use Gods name and witness to HIM being GOD!!And i think if you read Math 24:14 you will see worldwide they witness worldwide about it.And the KJV bible has been around much longer then and before Gods people adopted their name.


JJ and Controversial snowflake would be more wise to realize what Jesus told Pilate RE this world and his kingdom was NO part of it instead of supporting Trump.And THAT was ALWAYS in the bible and NOT added.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 05:04:55 pm by hitch0403 »

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